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Re: Pulsar-23 by Soma

Post by inoshi » Sat May 02, 2020 7:16 am

Hmmmmmm.... I was on the waiting list since just before it was revealed at superbooth 19, wondering what happened.... I received the. Confirmation and emailed again asking about it, apparently I'm still on the list. I'll probably just wait for it to come to perfect circuit now.

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Post by nuttymad » Sat May 02, 2020 12:03 pm

inoshi wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 7:16 am
Hmmmmmm.... I was on the waiting list since just before it was revealed at superbooth 19, wondering what happened.... I received the. Confirmation and emailed again asking about it, apparently I'm still on the list. I'll probably just wait for it to come to perfect circuit now.
The waiting list started way before superbooth 19. I want to say it started in early 2018. I got on in December 2018 and received mine a few weeks ago. Hang in there dood, it’s worth the wait.

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Re: Pulsar-23 by Soma

Post by inoshi » Sat May 02, 2020 1:57 pm

nuttymad wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 12:03 pm
inoshi wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 7:16 am
Hmmmmmm.... I was on the waiting list since just before it was revealed at superbooth 19, wondering what happened.... I received the. Confirmation and emailed again asking about it, apparently I'm still on the list. I'll probably just wait for it to come to perfect circuit now.
The waiting list started way before superbooth 19. I want to say it started in early 2018. I got on in December 2018 and received mine a few weeks ago. Hang in there dood, it’s worth the wait.
Oh ok, I had no idea!

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Re: Pulsar-23 by Soma

Post by sparks » Sat May 02, 2020 3:59 pm

I preordered mine June 15, 2018 back when it was more ot less a cardboard box. I've had it for a while and it's a fantastic drum (but also drone-) machine.

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Re: Pulsar-23 by Soma

Post by empirix » Fri May 08, 2020 2:24 am

whilst it sounds super, from what i am picking up on youtube/soundcloud etc, the demos all sound the sameish, as in that kind of glitch vibe, starting to reconsider my order

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Post by blipson » Fri May 08, 2020 4:39 am

empirix wrote:
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whilst it sounds super, from what i am picking up on youtube/soundcloud etc, the demos all sound the sameish
You're not wrong. It's got such a distinctive voice that no matter how you use its composition-system features, a certain character always comes through. I think it will be most interesting to see how the Pulsar-23 can integrate with a larger ensemble, supplement a drummer or a percussionist's batterie, etc. The Lyra-8 is also a sort of one trick pony, though it's a great trick--a must-have trick--and also a bit more than that. The P-23 isn't so much a self-contained trick as an accompanist waiting to happen, I think. Until then, it's being treated as a soloist, and compare the listening fatigue that sets in, for example, with flute solos. Who doesn't love a flute, but within 30 minutes (less!), I'm surfeited, I don't care who you are.

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Post by chvad » Fri May 08, 2020 8:02 am

All good points and I also agree. Like you I ordered when they were both barely announced ideas. Both expressive. Both cool in a myriad of ways. Both their own character for days... and that's a thing. Its a pro and a bit of a con. No worries though. Both are fantastic to own use and touch.

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Re: Pulsar-23 by Soma

Post by nuttymad » Fri May 08, 2020 8:53 am

if you’re trying to stray from the “sameish” sounds try patching external sounds into the ext inputs on the different channels. Make sure to attenuate first. I was getting some interesting sounds running my eurorack wavetable oscillators and filters into the ext of the kick and snare channels.

I think we need a pulsar-23 tricks and tips thread to share patch ideas.
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Post by blipson » Fri May 08, 2020 8:54 am

chvad wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 8:02 am
Both are fantastic to own use and touch.
I want to double down on touch: the P-23 is tactile in a multidimensional way that you just can't experience by listening to it, though it's obvious from the video'ed performances. The Lyra-8 and the The Pipe are not the same because their touch sensors are not at all like the P-23's snappy triggers. You might worry that it's a case of "more fun to play than to listen to," but I don't think so. It's fine to listen to, within its own reasonable fatigue limits. It's been my centerpiece for 6 months and counting, which is easily a record for me when it comes to electronics.

The P-23's major design limitation is that the layout of the sensors makes for a clumsy approach if you want to play them all simultaneously with a coordinated technique. Whatever its other qualities, the thing cries out to be played like a drum kit (just consider the names of the modules). That chestnut about limitations being good is so full of shit and should have a pillow put over its face once and for all--I make my own limitations just fine and don't need them imposed on me. So I get tons more playability using the accessory you can see in my photo on SoundCloud that I designed to give me the same kind of action as my Zendrum controller.

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Post by empirix » Fri May 08, 2020 1:58 pm

interesting opinions, i think i am passing and spending the cash on some more modules instead

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Post by dreamrobe » Sat May 09, 2020 6:04 pm

blipson wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 8:54 am
chvad wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 8:02 am
Both are fantastic to own use and touch.
The P-23's major design limitation is that the layout of the sensors makes for a clumsy approach if you want to play them all simultaneously with a coordinated technique. Whatever its other qualities, the thing cries out to be played like a drum kit (just consider the names of the modules). That chestnut about limitations being good is so full of shit and should have a pillow put over its face once and for all--I make my own limitations just fine and don't need them imposed on me. So I get tons more playability using the accessory you can see in my photo on SoundCloud that I designed to give me the same kind of action as my Zendrum controller.
What stops you from bringing the triggers closer together?
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Post by blipson » Sat May 09, 2020 6:51 pm

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What stops you from bringing the triggers closer together?
Do you mean the external accessory? If so: it's customized to match my hand print so that my hand plops down right on on top of the playing pads while in a natural, relaxed position. The trigger pads are large because that size accommodates trilling your fingers piano-style to do drum rolls. In any case, the pads could only be made a little bit closer to each other without touching. The two smaller pads lie under the palm so that I can trigger the dynamics pads on the P-23 without losing the rhythm that I'm drumming with my fingertips. It's designed for the left hand even though it's on the right side in the photo, but my pinky plays that thumb-position pad, no problem. Since even the slightest contact always triggers the same way (no velocity sensitivity), it turns out that precise positioning of the pads isn't important.


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NoLegs wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 7:30 pm
First patch with the Pulsar Buddy!
Nice. Post more? Mine's still in customs. It looks a lot bigger than I was expecting.

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Post by NoLegs » Sat May 09, 2020 9:11 pm

blipson wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 8:41 pm
NoLegs wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 7:30 pm
First patch with the Pulsar Buddy!
Nice. Post more? Mine's still in customs. It looks a lot bigger than I was expecting.
Sure! I will soon. It's not so big. It's about the width of a Pulsar channel and about it's about 2.5 channels long if you hold it horizontally across the pulsar.

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Post by electricanada » Sun May 10, 2020 1:49 am

blipson wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 8:54 am
So I get tons more playability using the accessory you can see in my photo on SoundCloud that I designed to give me the same kind of action as my Zendrum controller.
How did you make that?
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Post by blipson » Sun May 10, 2020 5:40 am

I co-designed it with the Moscow division as a custom accessory. It was a long wait, as there were unexpected electrical complications, but it does give me the Zendrum-like action that I was looking for to control all four loopers simultaneously with integrated, one-hand grooves. That leaves the other hand free to operate the rest of the P-23 and whatever.

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Post by Llouwelyn » Mon May 11, 2020 6:44 am

First Jam with my P_23 thanks for listening.


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Post by Llouwelyn » Mon May 11, 2020 6:58 am

NoLegs wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 7:30 pm
First patch with the Pulsar Buddy!
Where you have order this module Buddy please?

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Post by NoLegs » Mon May 11, 2020 1:35 pm

Llouwelyn wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 6:58 am
NoLegs wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 7:30 pm
First patch with the Pulsar Buddy!
Where you have order this module Buddy please?
https://github.com/mzero/pulsar-buddy/wiki/Builds

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Re: Pulsar-23 by Soma

Post by electricanada » Tue May 12, 2020 8:26 pm

blipson wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 5:40 am
I co-designed it with the Moscow division as a custom accessory. It was a long wait, as there were unexpected electrical complications, but it does give me the Zendrum-like action that I was looking for to control all four loopers simultaneously with integrated, one-hand grooves. That leaves the other hand free to operate the rest of the P-23 and whatever.
Very cool. Does the zen drum not work with it?
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