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5 k to invest / Cwejman S 1 mk 2 ?

Post by Grappadura » Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:28 pm

Hi, I want to spend 5 k. How? One option is a Cwejman S 1 MK 2. Would you do it? Other options? I love synths and am new to modular. One thought here is that I have the hope that the value will increase over Time, so its partly a Hobby- partly an Investment decision. Thanks!!
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Post by Be Sandy? » Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:44 pm

In my opinion, synths are not for investment and making money over time, they're for making music.

If you want to spend 5k on a synth, buy one that you like the sound and features of.

If you want to invest 5k and make money talk to a financial advisor and see what they recommend.

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Post by Grappadura » Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:16 pm

Thx for chiming in; well in order to play with a modular you gotta have money, and I am not in a position to spend 5 k in a way that there will be nothing of value left. So, and this also serves the purpose of selling the argument to my beloved wife :) , I regard the purchase as half hobby and half investment; I´m not looking to extract synths from the market so others can´t play it ;) .

The real question is maybe: Might there be a reason not to buy the S 1 Mk 2, like, will there be a new batch, can I preorder it somewhere, this kind of info. Or some other info about a similar kind of synth, or the info that I would be better off buying some cwejman modules for that price... thats what I´m looking for.

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Post by lud » Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:26 pm

Think the S1 goes for crazy money. Wait and hope for a new batch.

If you pay an inflated price you could lose $1000s if it goes back into production - so a poor choice at the moment perhaps as I heard it's going back into production. Google cwejman.jp and contact them

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Post by gentle_attack » Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:35 pm

Step 1: Join Muffwiggler
Step 2: Get information about Cwejman
Step 3: ?????
Step 4: Profit

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Post by Reese P. Dubin » Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:39 pm

Spend a week practicing soldering.
spend $5000 on Random Source Serge
have a huge banana system that flexes way beyond the cwejman, which you probably wont find for $5000

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Post by Grappadura » Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:14 pm

gentle_attack wrote:Step 1: Join Muffwiggler
Step 2: Get information about Cwejman
Step 3: ?????
Step 4: Profit

:moneyburn:
That sums up my business-plan :yay: :banana:

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Post by anselmi » Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:21 pm

you just reminded me a big mistake, when some years ago I don´t purchased a S1 for $2.5K :ripbanana:

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Post by Grappadura » Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:22 pm

Reese P. Dubin wrote:Spend a week practicing soldering.
spend $5000 on Random Source Serge
have a huge banana system that flexes way beyond the cwejman, which you probably wont find for $5000

:banana: :nana: :sadbanana: :deadbanana: :ripbanana:
Sounds like a plan, but since I´m pretty new to modular, I dig the S1 "simplicity". I don´t need endless posibilities (yet), I´m after something that I could take with me to a gig (even though I´ll just have it in the studio, but the studio is limited to about 3 m²).

But thx for showing me Serge modular, I just saw a video and liked the sound a lot. Is Serge regarded as on pair with cwejman? Which other manufacturers are on that level?

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Post by Grappadura » Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:24 pm

lud wrote:Think the S1 goes for crazy money. Wait and hope for a new batch.

If you pay an inflated price you could lose $1000s if it goes back into production - so a poor choice at the moment perhaps as I heard it's going back into production. Google cwejman.jp and contact them
That I will do, thank you!!

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Post by oldgearguy » Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:20 pm

Or look at other rare but fun to use gear like a MacBeth Elements, an ARP 2600, etc.

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Post by OlivierWah » Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:29 pm

Make like a lot of Cwejman buyers :

1) Buy all modules from batches of Cwejman. Make sure that no others Cwejman fans can buy it to make music.
2) Wait few days, test them.
3) Resell them to twice prices without shame to all the Cwejman fans that cant buy the modules because of you.
4) Profit.
5) Dont do this, it's a joke.
6) Wait the next batch of S1 MK2 in few months, it will be less that 5k (contact Maho on cwejman.jp).

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Post by Sir Ruff » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:17 am

I don't get "being new to modular" and then wanting to spend multiple thousands of dollars on it, unless it's just a status/collector thing for you?

If you're actually serious about synthesis, there are more intro-level/stand-alone modular synths than ever these days. Invest your time in learning one of those, and whether or not that's even your thing, rather than your money.

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Post by Grappadura » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:47 am

I am new to modular, but Im sure I understand it well enough to know that I won’t be overwhelmed by the complexity of the S 1. But since I’m new to it, I’d choose a semimodular over a modular

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Post by Grappadura » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:49 am

It’s not a status thing, I do feel passionate about synths and sounds. Actually more about sounds than synths, and that’s why I gotta love the S 1, it sounds amazing!

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Post by electricfence » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:09 am

Grappadura wrote:I am new to modular, but Im sure I understand it well enough to know that I won’t be overwhelmed by the complexity of the S 1. But since I’m new to it, I’d choose a semimodular over a modular
Grappadura wrote:It’s not a status thing, I do feel passionate about synths and sounds. Actually more about sounds than synths, and that’s why I gotta love the S 1, it sounds amazing!
The new Erebus 3 also sounds pretty amazing (from what I've heard). I don't want to say that it's on the same level as the Cwejman S1, but it has 3 oscillators, a robust patch bay, and a gnarly sound. And it's readily available for $600. At that price, I imagine that it would require a lot less "justification" to your spouse.

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Post by Panason » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:57 am

Well, he wants to spend 5k, not 600 8-)

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Post by RealDudes » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:26 am

Download VCV rack and buy some 3rd party modules
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Post by Grappadura » Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:45 pm

Thx for the suggestions. I actually don´t mind spending less :). I have ordered a trax retrowave which I have the feeling I will love a lot (about 400 €). I also love my minilogue. I also think its a good idea to donate money, and I will do so too, some money will go to an environmental organisation.

BTW I contacted Cwejman as suggested, the next batch will be of 60 units, I´ll be on the waiting list on number 132, so lets see if I get lucky some day.

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Post by lud » Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:51 pm

You might be able to get earlier from Schneidersladen. Go on their site to the S1 product page and set up an email alert

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Re: 5 k to invest / Cwejman S 1 mk 2 ?

Post by stikygum » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:24 pm

Grappadura wrote:Hi, I want to spend 5 k. How? One option is a Cwejman S 1 MK 2. Would you do it? Other options? I love synths and am new to modular. One thought here is that I have the hope that the value will increase over Time, so its partly a Hobby- partly an Investment decision. Thanks!!
Unless you particularly like the S1 over other high priced options, I wouldn't do it for the sake of taking a risk on investment. Maybe prices will go done for one reason or another and you would just be wasting time and possibly money if you aren't really into the S1 sound. You read other people's opinion about it, but a lot of times that won't translate to your experience of using it. You can listen to demos and that would give you a better idea if the tone suits you. But I would start there. What synth's tone do you like.
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