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Post by tIB » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:45 am

Does anyone have any contact info for flame instruments/per?

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Post by deftinwulf » Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:28 pm

Fentune wrote:How would they go from 4 to 8 voice polyphony? Wouldn't that require a hardware upgrade?
This is pure speculation, but... It's a digital architecture for the oscillators, so in theory, increases in polyphony are possible with clever optimization of code. Waldorf/Studiologic were able to increase the polyphony of the Sledge from 8 to 24 voices with a firmware update. It's possible Flame have done the same with the Maander.

Edit to add: I suppose it might be more accurate to say "8 voice paraphony"? If it had a standard OSC>VCF>VCA design, you would be needing more filters, as well. But the Maander has a fixed filter bank, no matter what number of oscillators or "voices". So, adding more digital oscillators doesnt require more filters to feel like polyphony has been increased... If my understanding is correct, that is...

Pretty enticing list of specs, btw. :nana:

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Post by Fentune » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:13 pm

deftinwulf wrote:
Fentune wrote:How would they go from 4 to 8 voice polyphony? Wouldn't that require a hardware upgrade?
This is pure speculation, but... It's a digital architecture for the oscillators, so in theory, increases in polyphony are possible with clever optimization of code. Waldorf/Studiologic were able to increase the polyphony of the Sledge from 8 to 24 voices with a firmware update. It's possible Flame have done the same with the Maander.

Edit to add: I suppose it might be more accurate to say "8 voice paraphony"? If it had a standard OSC>VCF>VCA design, you would be needing more filters, as well. But the Maander has a fixed filter bank, no matter what number of oscillators or "voices". So, adding more digital oscillators doesnt require more filters to feel like polyphony has been increased... If my understanding is correct, that is...

Pretty enticing list of specs, btw. :nana:
It looks cool and sounds hot. Even with 4 voice poly it's still awesome :yay:

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Post by tIB » Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:53 am

I wonder how interested flame / per is in MPE - this thing looks incredible and I'd jump on it tomorrow if plans were afoot for mpe integration...

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Post by Fentune » Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:09 am

tIB wrote:I wonder how interested flame / per is in MPE - this thing looks incredible and I'd jump on it tomorrow if plans were afoot for mpe integration...
That would be seriously dope. Now I know why you want to contact them :lol: . I looked on their website for any sort of contact info but couldn't find anything either man. This seems like another company who make innovative high quality instruments- and they are pretty much unreachable.

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Post by Fentune » Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:23 pm

Found the waveforms I was looking for.

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Re: Flame Mäander new Wavetable Desktop Synthesizer w Filterbank

Post by geremyf » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:00 pm

Hi, has anyone bought or used one of these puppies yet? Insights?

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Post by Fentune » Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:13 am

slumberjack wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:13 am
OPT wrote:each of the 12 filter tracks can be configured to transmit a unique midi channel and note number.
:party: :banana:
The MIDI output is handled by 2 MIDI channels total- 1 channel for the OSC and another channel for the trigger tracks (filterbank, noise, input). Note numbers can be set for each of the 14 trigger tracks on a single MIDI channel.

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Post by tomtoms » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:06 pm

Version 2 come in Super both 20

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Post by tomtoms » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:09 pm

Flame Mäander Filter Bank Desktop Synth Gets An Update 2.0 With New Features

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Post by Fentune » Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:25 pm

Whaaat?! How can it get any better?? :hyper:


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Post by Ears » Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:02 pm

Got mine coming in a few days. While i could make these sounds with my modular there’s something nice about all in one.

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Post by tomtoms » Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:27 am

Great little synth even more goodies once version two is released

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Post by electricfence » Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:30 am

Ears wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:02 pm
Got mine coming in a few days. While i could make these sounds with my modular there’s something nice about all in one.
I'm anxious to hear your impressions of it. I was really intrigued by the design (last year!), and have been following this thread in the hopes of some user demos/impressions, but it's been pretty quiet so far.

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Post by Ears » Fri May 01, 2020 3:41 pm

I’m liking it so far! Ordered last Saturday and came yesterday from Germany. Meanwhile my modular order from the US over a week ago still isn’t here! Going to dig in deeper this weekend, but love the fact that you can sequence each filterband - that’s kinda crazy.

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Post by flx » Sat May 02, 2020 7:55 am

Really looking forward to see and hear some more content with that thing.
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Post by tomtoms » Thu May 07, 2020 5:29 pm

Version two firmware released today

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Post by Ears » Fri May 08, 2020 6:31 am

tomtoms wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 5:29 pm
Version two firmware released today
Sweet! Thanks for the heads up!

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Post by flx » Fri May 08, 2020 11:19 am

The update‘s on their website now, as well as a new manual :)

http://flame.fortschritt-musik.de/flame ... dular.html
FLAME MÄANDER VERSION 2.00

Overview of changes and additions
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1. WAVE
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In version 1 there were 39 wavetables on places 00-38 and two digitally generated waveforms on 39 and 40 (SAW and SQUARE).
The WAVE menu has now been changed to 3 sound banks A, B and C.
You can switch through the banks by pressing the WAVE button again. The sound within the bank can be changed with the EDIT control.
The number within the bank is retained if you step through the three banks.

Bank A has the old 39 wavetables (A00-A38) and bank B now has additional storage space for another 39 wavetables (B00-B38).
The digitally generated waveforms are located on bank C. The existing SAW and SQUARE are on C01 and C02.

A new FM algorithm has now been added to C02. The parameters are set with the two controllers DETUNE and COLOR.
It can be used to create typical metallic, bell-like or disharmonious sounds.

Note: The digital sounds on Bank C can only be played in four voices.
As a result, the new polyphonic DETUNE function (doubling of the voices) has no effect on these sounds. See polyphonic DETUNE function!

As of version 2, it is also possible to load individual wavetables to user-selected storage locations (regardless of the number specified in the wavetable file).
2. DETUNE
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In version 1 the DETUNE controller was only active in UNISONO mode (detuning the 4 same voices).
Now an additional 4 voices are added to the wavetables, even when playing polyphonically, when the DETUNE control is turned up.
This gives you a very flat chorus-like effect, now also for chords.
From the middle position of the control, DETUNE can be controlled up to the octave distance of the individual voices (for very strange sounds).

This does not apply to the four digital sound algorithms on bank C00-03 (since they can only have a maximum of four voices).
3. LFO SYNC DISPLAY
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Further additions concern the LFOs.
If the LFO is set to MIDI-SYNC, turning the RATE control shows the divider value on the display (for about 2 seconds).
This makes it easier to set the duoles, triplets and dotted notes with the different dividers.

In addition, the synced LFOs no longer automatically reset at the end of the cycle, but also continue to run synchronously.

4. SCALER
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The scale function has been completely revised. In the first version, the keyboard was "bent" on the scale.
This feature has been removed.
But now you can "quantize" the sent notes (those sent to the oscillator and via MIDI OUT) on a scale.
To do this, select a scale from a list in the SCALE menu and set the basic tone with the keys 1-12 or C-B.

There are 16 available scales that can only be changed in the basic tone:

chromatic OFF
Ionian(Major) Ion
Aeolian(Minor) AEo
blues major bL1
blues minor bL2
Pentatonic Pnt
Dorian dor
Lydian LYd
Mixolydian HLY
Locrian LOC
Minor Harmonic 1 HA1
Minor harm 2 HA2
Minor harm 3 HA3
Japan hirayoshi JP1
Japan iwatoyoshi JP2
Japan kumoiyoshi JP3

5. PROGRAM CHANGE Send / receive / midi channel
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The sending and receiving of MIDI Program Change has been expanded.
You can now set a separate MIDI channel for this command: To do this, press the Patch button for "CHn" for CHANNEL in the MIDI menu.
The MIDI channel for program change commands now appears in the display. Change it with the data controller.
You can also activate / deactivate the receiving and sending of program change in the MIDI menu at "trt" (Transmit) and "" rCE "(Receive).
To do this, press PATCH at "trt" or "rCE" and set on / off with the Edit control.

The time of sending ProgramChange has changed:
If the sequencer is stopped, the corresponding command is sent when a patch is loaded (not yet when selecting with the data controller).
When the sequencer is running, the newly selected patch is loaded at the next bar, at which moment the corresponding command is also sent.

The program change numbers correspond to PATCH numbers 1..100 and cannot be changed.

6. ROUTING THE MIDI EXTERNAL KEYBOARD
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In version 1, no SHOTS (note repeats) could be played on the oscillator track with a connected MIDI keyboard.
This only worked with the touch buttons on the MÄANDER itself. Now the external MIDI keyboard is also based on the settings of the RESOLUTION controller.
So it is possible to play not only unquantized notes with the external MIDI keyboard, but eg. also emergency repeats of chords.
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Post by olix » Mon May 11, 2020 11:39 pm

What is the price?

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Post by Ears » Tue May 12, 2020 9:10 am

olix wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 11:39 pm
What is the price?
Mine was 880 Euros plus Shipping. So about $1000 all told.

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Post by flx » Thu May 14, 2020 2:30 pm

Hello Mäander! Happy to join the party :sb: This thing is something unique! Played with it for an hour on the couch with a 9V power bank and had a lot of fun exploring. Next will be some bedtime reading of the manual again.

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Post by electricfence » Thu May 14, 2020 4:57 pm

flx wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 2:30 pm
Hello Mäander! Happy to join the party :sb: This thing is something unique! Played with it for an hour on the couch with a 9V power bank and had a lot of fun exploring. Next will be some bedtime reading of the manual again.

It looks great on your couch! If only we could hear it... (hint, hint).

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Post by Ears » Thu May 14, 2020 8:00 pm

flx wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 2:30 pm
Next will be some bedtime reading of the manual again.
I found it to be pretty easy to program once I cracked the manual. It’s pretty straightforward really.

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