analog-ish poly synth with digital-ish envelopes etc?

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analog-ish poly synth with digital-ish envelopes etc?

Post by oisin » Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:58 pm

ive worked with a few hardware synths, most recently the roland sh01a boutique, which i had a alot of fun with.

while the sound is great (yes, emulation but whatever, i think it sounds good), one thing that i miss is more control over envelopes, LFOs and other logistically simple parameters which could easily be digitally controlled.

while i see the appeal of keeping synth architecture simple and elegant, im wondering if anyone can recommend a synth that fits somewhere between the sh01a and a waldorf blofeld (parameter matrix overkill).

it doenst have to be pure analog - but would be nice to have some connection to analog-type oscillator + filter sounds.

another roland boutique maybe?

does that make sense? curious to hear any suggestions - thanks in advance.

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Post by Seaweed Sound » Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:55 pm

What kind of music are you doing? Do you want a mono or poly?

Nord Modular, Oberheim Matrix 6 or 1000, Ensoniq ESQ-1 or SQ-80 would fit the bill.

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Post by anselmi » Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:13 pm

Novation Peak

Nord Lead 3 or 4

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Post by hinterlands303 » Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:56 pm

I second the Novation Peak. Lots of hands on editing so you can do a ton from the front panel but there are plenty of deeper features as well if you want to get into it. Plus it sounds great - digital oscillators but analog filters and vca's with digital control. It's significantly pricier than a Roland Boutique though - what's your budget?

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Post by rowsbywoof » Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:26 pm

How about a Shruthi? Not tons of hands on at-the-ready controls, but no less than a Blofeld and a little less complicated to boot. Could be a fun alternative, and you have different filter options with the various analog boards if you want to experiment a little.

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Post by strangeowl » Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:44 pm

+1 for the peak

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Post by oisin » Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:48 pm

Seaweed Sound wrote:What kind of music are you doing? Do you want a mono or poly?
love answering this question 8-) its electronic music that is generally rhythmic but not exactly techno so synths are pulling alot of the weight.

thanks for the great tips everyone. i was hoping to stay in the roland boutique price range (under 500) but that novation peak seems very interesting .. ill put an ebay search alert on it.

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Post by hinterlands303 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:29 am

oisin wrote:
thanks for the great tips everyone. i was hoping to stay in the roland boutique price range (under 500) but that novation peak seems very interesting .. ill put an ebay search alert on it.
The Peak is definitely worth saving up for. Check out the "hack series" of videos that Novation made, they get into some of the more unusual things you can do with the Peak. Here's one on using the envelope features:


And another on Karplus Strong synthesis with the Peak:


But if it really is out of range perhaps look at the Audiothingies Micromosta? It's digital and would require a little diving but it sounds great and the interface is better than the Blofeld.
http://www.audiothingies.com/product/micromonsta/

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Post by DiscoDevil » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:47 am

Modor NF-1m can do pretty convincing subtractive analogish stuff but has a killer digital filter/envelope/lfo section plus delay/chorus built in as well. Very versatile and unique.

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Post by drxcm » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:58 am

If you like the Roland sound, I’d take a look at System-8
It’s assome and has plenty of depth and a simple interface

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Post by tehyar » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:07 pm

Minilogue XD. It sounds amazing. You also get that new sequencer with it that does some pretty incredible rhythmic stuff. I've been blown away by the sound so far.

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Post by ym2612 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:12 pm

rowsbywoof wrote:How about a Shruthi? Not tons of hands on at-the-ready controls, but no less than a Blofeld and a little less complicated to boot. Could be a fun alternative, and you have different filter options with the various analog boards if you want to experiment a little.
OP wanted poly, so I'd recommend Ambika. Digital oscillators, analog filters.

It's not the quickest interface to get around on, but it meets the rest of the criteria. It has a big parameter matrix available, but it's not necessary to get too deep into it if you don't want to.

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Post by RickKleffel » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:38 pm

You might consider an E-mu MP-7/XL-7 Command station. They are ridiculously cheap and powerful. Yes ROMplers, but fantastic digital filters, enough knobs to make tweezing easy, deep programming potential for the patient. 32 this, 64 that, 128 those...

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Post by acidbob » Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:35 am

For good matrix: Novation Peak / Matrix 1000, equally great synths soundwise.

For sound: JU06 / Analog four

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Post by oisin » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:56 am

thanks for the recommendations, all! my ebay search alert list is growing...

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Post by oisin » Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:06 pm

OP here - just to say that it took me almost a year to get my hands on one, but i finally got a Novation Peak and i am Loving It. thanks to you all for your trustworthy opinions, you muffs.

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Post by Red Electric Rainbow » Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:46 pm

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Post by Sinamsis » Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:55 pm

I would throw in the DSI Prophet 08 or Rev 2. If rhythmic is your goal, the 4 x 16 gated sequencer along with an additional step sequencer is phenomenal. It’s out of your price range but I think it would be worth the stretch. It has complex mod options but the UI makes routing SO easy. DSI have perfected this IMO.

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Post by MacroDX » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:32 am

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Re: analog-ish poly synth with digital-ish envelopes etc?

Post by nthall » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:36 pm

Casio CZ. They have a not quite right sound no matter how you patch them. It's the only knobless piece of gear I'll let in the room. They're cheap too.

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Re: analog-ish poly synth with digital-ish envelopes etc?

Post by Orion » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:30 pm

Sinamsis wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:55 pm
I would throw in the DSI Prophet 08 or Rev 2. If rhythmic is your goal, the 4 x 16 gated sequencer along with an additional step sequencer is phenomenal. It’s out of your price range but I think it would be worth the stretch. It has complex mod options but the UI makes routing SO easy. DSI have perfected this IMO.
I have the rev2 16 voice and between the 4 LFOs, aux envelope, and routing it's crazy. The routing is really easy to do without a ton of menu diving. I'm not in love with the layering at all times, but it's getting better. Right now I've got a P5 rev 3.3, Minimoog, and a Juno 60 and it hangs in terms of sound quality. It seems like every band that tours with a poly has one on stage these days.

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