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Re: U.D.O. Super 6 hybrid "binaural" poly

Post by KL1982 » Sat May 02, 2020 11:37 am

dubonaire wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:02 pm

Sorry KL you are indeed entitlde to your honest opinion. Perhaps my point was more don't label a forum toxic because of one new member's post.

I just think he is very enthusiastic and actually not a salesman rather than too much a salesman.
No problem. No offense taken. The joys of internet communication.

You could well be correct RE his not being a salesman.


Assuming the Sonicstate presentation wasn't scripted, having a cohesive list/progression of talking points/features would have helped his case. The whole thing to me came off as ill-prepared; it felt more like he simply turned up with the instrument.

Given George has worked (to an extent) in the business world in a past life, I was very surprised by the apparent lack of preparedness. If he worked for my company and presented the brand as of the Sonicstate video, I'd have fired him when he returned to the office later that day.

My concern in these situations is in the possibility of this ill-preparedness being extended through to the instrument i.e never-ending updates/bug fixes due to poor compliance/lack of objective oversight.

I'm certainly not going to take the risk of paying not a small sum to report problems with a synth back to the person who should have dealt with these problems in the first place.

Again though, I hope I'm completely wrong and all goes well for UDO.


I'm keeping an eye on the synth. Possibly in a couple of years I'll pick one up.


Maybe George should step back a bit. If UDO becomes 'the George show', this could be very dangerous. As far as I'm aware, no-one else at UDO has presented the instrument, which would suggest this may be the case. But maybe I need to find/look at more UDO videos.

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Post by geoffmar » Sat May 02, 2020 11:45 am

"I"m extremely worried about a bunch of problems that allegedly exist but haven't been revealed yet."

Okay.

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Post by j bowman » Sat May 02, 2020 12:54 pm

Given George's experience working in the F1, medical-instruments and aviation industries, I would be surprised if there are any more bugs in the Super 6 than one would find in any new synth or other product. The Paul Dither interview posted above is very reassuring from this perspective, and goes into these questions at length - if anything the instrument sounds to have been deliberately "over-engineered".

I know at least one person who is testing this Synth and their feedback is very positive.

I think in truth George and the Super 6 are inseparable, in the same way that the world doesn't get a Continuum Fingerboard without Professor Lippold Haken (not to minimise the hard work of the others involved) - to my understanding there is a similar level of dedication and vocation in this case.

I'm not really in the market for another polysynth but I respect the vision, dedication and drive it takes to bring something like the Super 6 into existence. These qualities, combined with the sounds I am hearing in the demos, make this a tempting proposition.

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Re: U.D.O. Super 6 hybrid "binaural" poly

Post by KL1982 » Sat May 02, 2020 7:37 pm

j bowman wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 12:54 pm
Given George's experience working in the F1, medical-instruments and aviation industries, I would be surprised if there are any more bugs in the Super 6 than one would find in any new synth or other product.
Yes, here's hoping.


j bowman wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 12:54 pm
The Paul Dither interview posted above is very reassuring from this perspective, and goes into these questions at length - if anything the instrument sounds to have been deliberately "over-engineered".
I'll watch the interview you mentioned later.


j bowman wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 12:54 pm
I think in truth George and the Super 6 are inseparable, in the same way that the world doesn't get a Continuum Fingerboard without Professor Lippold Haken (not to minimise the hard work of the others involved) - to my understanding there is a similar level of dedication and vocation in this case.
I agree with you RE this/George and UDO's inseparability.

Perhaps it is unwarranted concern on my behalf. But I've seen companies in the past fail due to this very reason i.e a company becomes a platform for the developer to deliver themselves, to the detriment of delivering a product.


j bowman wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 12:54 pm
I'm not really in the market for another polysynth but I respect the vision, dedication and drive it takes to bring something like the Super 6 into existence. These qualities, combined with the sounds I am hearing in the demos, make this a tempting proposition.
I am in the market for a polysynth.

But there's no rush/I'm hanging off for now.


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Post by flashheart » Mon May 04, 2020 5:35 pm

I'm sure some of you have seen this
George seems like a true enthusiast and a perfectionist.
KL1982 wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 11:37 am
dubonaire wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:02 pm

Sorry KL you are indeed entitlde to your honest opinion. Perhaps my point was more don't label a forum toxic because of one new member's post.

I just think he is very enthusiastic and actually not a salesman rather than too much a salesman.
No problem. No offense taken. The joys of internet communication.

You could well be correct RE his not being a salesman.


Assuming the Sonicstate presentation wasn't scripted, having a cohesive list/progression of talking points/features would have helped his case. The whole thing to me came off as ill-prepared; it felt more like he simply turned up with the instrument.

Given George has worked (to an extent) in the business world in a past life, I was very surprised by the apparent lack of preparedness. If he worked for my company and presented the brand as of the Sonicstate video, I'd have fired him when he returned to the office later that day.

My concern in these situations is in the possibility of this ill-preparedness being extended through to the instrument i.e never-ending updates/bug fixes due to poor compliance/lack of objective oversight.

I'm certainly not going to take the risk of paying not a small sum to report problems with a synth back to the person who should have dealt with these problems in the first place.

Again though, I hope I'm completely wrong and all goes well for UDO.


I'm keeping an eye on the synth. Possibly in a couple of years I'll pick one up.


Maybe George should step back a bit. If UDO becomes 'the George show', this could be very dangerous. As far as I'm aware, no-one else at UDO has presented the instrument, which would suggest this may be the case. But maybe I need to find/look at more UDO videos.

All best
I don't want slick 'corporate' presentations, nothing turns me off more, I'm afraid when you started talking about 'brand presentation' I almost lost interest... :confused: Synths are still a tiny niche market, last thing we need is brand presentation, we need well run companies who have a clear idea what the're aiming for.
From the above video I see he's wanting to get this right before release, it's been a year since that initial presentation at Superbooth - no sign of rushing it out. Interesting to see watching the video how much care he's taking over the insides as well in terms of parts and servicability. I do take your point re George maybe being too in front but It's his company. Like a previous poster said I think you're extrapolating too much when you suggest his supposed 'lack of professionalism' (which I just take as enthusiasm) could lead to a buggy release.

I did have a few minutes on it at Superbooth last year, sans presets - (I know, should have done better).Built like a tank, sadly after 3 days of Superbooth I was 'synthed out' so didn't make the best of it.
I'm not buying a maths though, not my idea of fun...

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Re: U.D.O. Super 6 hybrid "binaural" poly

Post by Hermetech Mastering » Sat May 09, 2020 10:49 am

I just pre-ordered one, can’t wait!

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Post by Sabana » Thu May 14, 2020 6:14 am

A new forum desicated to the Udo Super 6 has been created witht the blessings of George Hearn the creator of the synth. Anyone who has preordered or thinking of is welcome to join for fun discussions and music patch sharing etc.

https://udosuper6.freeforums.net/

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Post by Hermetech Mastering » Sun May 24, 2020 10:37 am

Sabana wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 6:14 am
A new forum desicated to the Udo Super 6 has been created witht the blessings of George Hearn the creator of the synth. Anyone who has preordered or thinking of is welcome to join for fun discussions and music patch sharing etc.

https://udosuper6.freeforums.net/
Where has it gone?

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Post by lessmudmorepunch » Sun May 24, 2020 11:52 pm

Yea I just saw it was taken down too. Weird

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Post by chris.d » Wed May 27, 2020 11:39 am

Hermetech Mastering wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 12:16 pm
anselmi wrote:
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I really like this man´s approach...the usual "product specialist" thing shows little more than what you can find in the manual and tends to bore me, but see the emotional extra that the creator puts in this product is really refreshing and makes me like the synth even more as I buit empathy with what was behind the synth´s design...I felt identificated by most of what he said about what was the driving force to made him makes this synth: the panel, the sound, the specs, the controls, the visual layout, and the use is intended to have. Everything fits my needs. Also, it sounds stellar and it´s beautiful...what more would you need?
Totally agree, his enthusiasm is infectious. I have this and the OB-6 in my Thomann cart and am going nuts on which one to get. :)
Same here, only I'm torn between Prophet 6 & UDO.
Ah I see you ordered the ODO. Think you might have picked well.
Shame the US prices are so much higher than Thomann!

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Post by Hermetech Mastering » Wed May 27, 2020 11:47 am

Yes, I went with the UDO, paid all upfront, been promised one of the first batch, in blue, so fingers crossed. The deciding factor was the OB-6 suddenly went up £400 overnight in the EU, so it was "fuck that" as it was already more expensive than the Super 6, and the more demos of the latter I heard, the more convinced I was. It's agony waiting for it, with all the delays, but I just know it's gonna be worth it. A bit sad, but I can't wait to get my hands on the manual, as it will answer so many questions for me. Hope they will post it soon!

I keep imagining what what 12 x Super VCOs (each with it's 7 detuned oscillators) through 12 VCFs and 12 VCAs is gonna sound like playing a huge unison/fifth/octave heavy drone chord etc., (even before you start thinking of using VCO2, or one of the LFOs and/or looping ENVs as extra oscillators), keeps me awake at night... :)
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Post by chris.d » Wed May 27, 2020 11:52 am

Hermetech Mastering wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 11:47 am
Yes, I went with the UDO, paid all upfront, been promised one of the first batch, in blue, so fingers crossed. The deciding factor was the OB-6 suddenly went up £400 overnight in the EU, so it was "fuck that" as it was already more expensive than the Super 6, and the more demos of the latter I heard, the more convinced I was. It's agony waiting for it, with all the delays, but I just know it's gonna be worth it. A bit sad, but I can't wait to get my hands on the manual, as it will answer so many questions for me. Hope they will post it soon!

I keep imagining what what 12 x Super VCOs (each with it's 7 detuned oscillators) through 12 VCFs and 12 VCAs is gonna sound like playing a huge unison/fifth/octave heavy drone chord etc., keeps me awake at night... :)
Nice. Congrats, I'd go blue for sure.

The uncertainty of it's ship date (for US) is the only thing giving me pause.
That, and I gotta sell some gear to fund it. Love the Moror NF-1 but have to sell if I'm gonna get a solid hybrid poly.
if anyones interested..

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Post by Hermetech Mastering » Wed May 27, 2020 11:54 am

It'll be me only hardware poly, so hopefully it'll fit that role well.

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Post by chris.d » Thu May 28, 2020 4:29 pm



Another window into its sonics. Although I'm still very interested in this, I find it a bit on the pillowy sounding side, at least here anyway. Not that that's a bad thing but, just my impression.

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Post by gruebleengourd » Thu May 28, 2020 8:07 pm

chris.d wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 4:29 pm


Another window into its sonics. Although I'm still very interested in this, I find it a bit on the pillowy sounding side, at least here anyway. Not that that's a bad thing but, just my impression.
I was thinking wow, that sounds amazing until I realized it was sitting on a rhodes, and that was what I was digging. lol


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Post by anselmi » Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:23 am

Hermetech Mastering wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:58 am
absolute stellar sound! with such a simple patch it´s gorgeous...this is exactly what I´m looking for in a synth like this
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Post by Hermetech Mastering » Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:56 pm

Yeah, same. Nice to see the looping envelopes, nice to hear some simple filter sweeps, nice to hear it in "regular" (not binaural) mode, great to hear the raw sound quality.

I CAN'T FUCKING WAIT TO GET MINE!!! :)

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Post by anselmi » Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:14 pm

duplicate...delete

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Post by tvh » Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:37 am

More info on that video by the creator on the reddit where he answers some questions and describes the patches, like the binaural feature and having chorus on for the demo -

Looks like there's a second demo also.

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Post by Hermetech Mastering » Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:40 am

Just been informed by the distributor that they will ship my Blue Super 6 to the dealer soon, the dealer will have it next week, and I'll have it soon after. Got sent the .pdf manual too. Happy Daze Ahead! :)

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Post by Hermetech Mastering » Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:24 am

Mine shipped today, should have it next week! :)

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Post by jdaddyaz » Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:24 am

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Post by h4ndcrafted » Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:17 pm

Oh my it’s sounding incredible !
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