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Re: U.D.O. Super 6 hybrid "binaural" poly

Post by Purveyor2 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:31 am

That blue is beautiful. How does it sound?

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Re: U.D.O. Super 6 hybrid "binaural" poly

Post by Mend » Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:44 am

Is it true that MIDI over usb has not been implemented yet?

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Post by Hermetech Mastering » Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:46 am

No Sequencer or USB MIDI yet but promised for August firmware update. You can check the "Known Issues" document on the website. Manual is up there too now. Sounds amazing!

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Post by Mend » Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:58 am

Thanks. I'll check it out. I preordered at MIDI Amsterdam. But they haven't had them come in yet. Hopefuly soon.
Eagerly awaiting my blue one :)

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Post by Mend » Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:04 am

Can you do the classic hoover on the Super 6?

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Post by Hermetech Mastering » Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:37 am

Yes, there are at least two presets that sound like the Hoover!

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Post by Mend » Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:59 am

Ooooh. Can you upload an example?

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Post by Hermetech Mastering » Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:09 am

No, it's in the other room, away from the mastering studio, while I'm getting to know it! I intend to do some recording with it when the MIDI over USB and/or built in Sequencer are working, so maybe in a few weeks.

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Post by Mend » Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:23 am

Fair enough :) What are your first impressions? Happy? Disappointed?

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Post by Hermetech Mastering » Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:47 am

It's amazing, everything I hoped it would be. Build quality, user interface and sound are all insane. Very amazed by how "un-digital" things like FM, oscillator sync and PWM sound, it must be the FPGAs. Filters are totally lush, very sweet and vocal sound. Saved my first patch, a very lush high frequency BPF saw string chord pad. You can do all the regular subtractive synth stuff, but when you start adding the SuperWave detuning, LFO phase detuning, Binaural mode, delay and chorus, it just gets nuts, in a very good way. :)

I have a small weird audio glitch occasionally, in certain modes, but it's a known bug and will be sorted before 5th August in the next firmware update apparently, fingers crossed!

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Post by Mend » Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:49 am

This waiting thing is getting really hard :)
But happy to hear you like it. Sounds great!

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Post by Hermetech Mastering » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:10 pm

Posting some observations after a few days of use:

I uploaded a .pdf of all the preset 1 names, if anyone wants it. Link below. Some of the presets are amazing, and it’s fun trying to work out how they did what they did. If anyone can put names to initials, that would be great, obviously GH are George’s, but not sure about the others. I am really digging the “MJ” ones around Banks E and F.

Having a blast with this synth the last few days. It sounds incredible, build quality and user interface are off the charts. Smells great when it gets reassuringly warm. ! :slightly_smiling_face: I do hope the DDS1 retrigger bug thingy will be sorted soon though!

Plugged the expression pedal in and that works a treat too, some of the presets show off its use very well. It’s labelled CV, so I guess you could plug something from your modular into that for extra LFO and ENVs etc.

Tried an electric guitar into the Input, but the results weren’t great because the signal level from the passive pickups was a bit too low, I think. I will try it again with a boost pedal before the S6. Also the guitar signal only came out of the Right output, so I guess it’s setup for a stereo line level input really. I ought to plug my portable player in there just for a laugh. Also need to try the old Minimoog trick of plugging one of the outputs into the input for a feedback path…

One thing that impresses me is how “non-digital” the PWM, FM, and Oscillator Sync sound. Must be that crazy FPGA!

http://hermetechmastering.com/UDO_Super ... t_List.pdf

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Post by Mend » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:28 am

That makes me so happy to read. Was hoping it'd be great. I mean. 2500 Is still a lot of money. But to me it seems worth it.
Saw this over on Gearslutz. Check out these groovy basslines done with the Super 6:

https://soundcloud.com/ben-crosland/sup ... TWFNkocIbl
https://soundcloud.com/ben-crosland/sup ... WxXWidR9JO

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Post by rowsbywoof » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:24 pm

gruebleengourd wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 8:07 pm
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Another window into its sonics. Although I'm still very interested in this, I find it a bit on the pillowy sounding side, at least here anyway. Not that that's a bad thing but, just my impression.
I was thinking wow, that sounds amazing until I realized it was sitting on a rhodes, and that was what I was digging. lol
Right? I really dig the Super 6, but pairing it with a Rhodes was a bad idea ;) Also, I never really paid attention to the Mark 7s, but that sounds so damn good. Never giving up my Mark 5, but, woof... Great paint job too. Oh yeah, there's a Super 6 in that video.

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Post by Mend » Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:25 pm

Could be something I'm missing, but occasionally the keys don't respond or 'lag'. So there's no sound for a while (few seconds usually). Is that part of the phase reset bug? Someone else experiencing this?

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Post by Hermetech Mastering » Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:19 am

Dude mentioned it on the S6 FB group, happens when you go from an arp preset to Manual apparently, George said it's already been fixed for the next firmware update.

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Post by Mend » Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:25 am

Hermetech Mastering wrote:
Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:19 am
Dude mentioned it on the S6 FB group, happens when you go from an arp preset to Manual apparently, George said it's already been fixed for the next firmware update.
Great. Was worried something more serious was going on. No longer on Facebook, but did they mention anything about a release date for the next firmware?

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Post by Hermetech Mastering » Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:31 am

If you look at the Support page on the website, there's a "Known Issues" doc that says the main reset bug would be fixed by two days ago, but it wasn't. Just have to remember they are the masters of missed deadlines... :) Lots of fixes promised for August and September, so fingers crossed. My fave patch I have made so far, (non Binaural poly, with the Super DDS1 1/2 setting) is unusable due to the reset bug, so I hope they fix it soon.
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Post by Hermetech Mastering » Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:36 am

Another guy on the FB page loaded all the waves into MATLAB and took a screen grab of them all, very informative, I've asked him if I can share it here.

[EDIT] OK he said yes... :) Wave 10 (B) is my fave when used as an LFO with the phase offset right now, for nuts panning effects.

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Post by Mend » Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:35 am

Excellent. Thanks :)

Liking it more and more. This is so good for rave stabs.
But I can easily take it into Buchla / Prophet / vintage Roland territory too!

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Post by Purveyor2 » Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:58 pm

anyone planning on getting some classic PPG waves prepared for the S6?

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Post by Hermetech Mastering » Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:50 pm

If they release an editor and it's easy to use, I'll do everything I can from PPG, Prophet VS, Ensoniq ESQ, Korg Wavestation, Wiard Miniwave/Waveform City, and many of the others I have downloaded over the last decade or so. Should point out it's single cycle waveforms only in the S6 so far though, no way to do wavetable scanning/Vector Synthesis/Wave Sequencing at the moment.

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Post by Purveyor2 » Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:38 pm

That would be great. Understand that it’s single cycle.

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Post by Mend » Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:55 am

Any word on firmware eta?

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Post by Hermetech Mastering » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:16 am

A couple of days ago George said the new firmware is with beta testers this week, fixing some issues, coming soonish, and the new manual will drop on the website this week.

You really ought to get on the FB group, it seems to be the place with the most up to date info, as George posts there semi regularly and answers questions. Would save me having to repeat it on forums all the time... ;) I just have a "dummy" FB account with no friends, for updating my Hermetech Mastering Page and joining a couple of Groups. Can do what you need without all the social media/feed bollocks.

I've been playing my S6 every day for two weeks now. It's just a beautiful world to get lost in. Absolutely fantastic synth. Things which keep blowing me away are the overall sound quality, ease of programming/UI, and versatility/modulation. The filters are just gorgeous.

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