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Re: Behringer teases 303 clone?

Post by 3hands » Tue May 19, 2020 5:40 pm

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Re: Behringer teases 303 clone?

Post by 3hands » Wed May 20, 2020 11:33 am

I have to say, This is the most fun I’ve had in a while. I’ve got a room full of killer gear and somehow this thing just puts a smile on my face. Partly, I feel, it’s nostalgia, and partly due to it being so bloody easy. I hadn’t programmed a 303 in 20 years and I remember it being an epic pain to learn. Once I got my fingers on this thing though, I had it back in about 10 minutes. Is such an archaic way to program, you never forget!!
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Re: Behringer teases 303 clone?

Post by nuketifromorbit » Thu May 21, 2020 6:05 pm

Are their any instructional videos or articles on programming the sequencer, because the few videos I've found online dedicated to programming the td3 are some what lacking. Also the 303s original manual is, like most roland documentation from that era, terribly written. I've figured out how to clear a pattern and input notes easily enough, there just doesnt seem to be any mention of how to change note length, add rests, etc in any of the videos I've watched.

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Re: Behringer teases 303 clone?

Post by mckenic » Thu May 21, 2020 6:30 pm

NOT what your looking for (and Im interesed to learn too) but I found Starsky Carr's video informative as he recreates Josh Wink.

11:20 ish on in this vid -

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Re: Behringer teases 303 clone?

Post by nuketifromorbit » Thu May 21, 2020 10:06 pm

mckenic wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 6:30 pm
NOT what your looking for (and Im interesed to learn too) but I found Starsky Carr's video informative as he recreates Josh Wink.

11:20 ish on in this vid -
Thanks I some how overlooked this video since I assumed it was just a review. Its much better than the tutorial video that I had watched previously.

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Re: Behringer teases 303 clone?

Post by mckenic » Thu May 21, 2020 10:28 pm

Glad I could be some little help mate :tu:

I also found this very informative, hopefully it might be some use!

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Behringer TD-3 vs Korg Monologue

Post by Sweetfiltersweep » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:48 am

I have learned a lot about the TD-3 comparing it with other monosynths:


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Re: Behringer TD-3 vs Korg Monologue

Post by Kattefjaes » Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:02 pm

Sweetfiltersweep wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:48 am
I have learned a lot about the TD-3 comparing it with other monosynths:

Oo that video is irritating. I wish that they were even approximately volume-matched.

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Re: Behringer TD-3 vs Korg Monologue

Post by Sweetfiltersweep » Mon Jun 08, 2020 5:34 pm

Kattefjaes wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:02 pm
Sweetfiltersweep wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:48 am
I have learned a lot about the TD-3 comparing it with other monosynths:
Oo that video is irritating. I wish that they were even approximately volume-matched.
They are indeed, as explained in the video description. Volume-matched at the beginning with single notes, the clip reflects the changes in volume when changing parameters. I did so on purpose. The filter and resonance on the Monologue reacts very differently and you have to tame it. This is exactly what you hear in the comparison. I wanted to show the differences as you found them, not politely recorded. I understand your criticism, though.

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Re: Behringer TD-3 vs Korg Monologue

Post by Kattefjaes » Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:50 am

Sweetfiltersweep wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 5:34 pm
Kattefjaes wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:02 pm
Sweetfiltersweep wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:48 am
I have learned a lot about the TD-3 comparing it with other monosynths:
Oo that video is irritating. I wish that they were even approximately volume-matched.
They are indeed, as explained in the video description. Volume-matched at the beginning with single notes, the clip reflects the changes in volume when changing parameters. I did so on purpose. The filter and resonance on the Monologue reacts very differently and you have to tame it. This is exactly what you hear in the comparison. I wanted to show the differences as you found them, not politely recorded. I understand your criticism, though.
Of course, I totally didn't skip around in the video without watching it all. Ahem.

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Re: Behringer teases 303 clone?

Post by paperCUT » Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:26 pm

FYI the gate output is missing a pulldown resistor so it may not trigger all modules reliably. If you do any mods make sure you add a 100k resistor from the gate out to ground.

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Re: Behringer teases 303 clone?

Post by nuromantix » Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:40 am

Is track mode just broken on this or is it a known issue fixed in an update? Asking before I spend all day tearing my hair out trying to get their software to work.
Before anyone goes there: yes I know how a 303 sequencer works, been using it for 20 years. 8-)

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Re: Behringer TD-3

Post by freqout » Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:54 pm

Does the TD-3 respond to program change messages over midi?

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Re: Behringer TD-3

Post by Sweetfiltersweep » Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:59 pm

Small, easy to use, extreme sounding... Nice pair with the TD-3:


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Re: Behringer TD-3

Post by olix » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:10 pm

I sold my TD-3. By far, I prefer the Volca NuBass.

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Re: Behringer TD-3

Post by vytis » Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:29 am

Couldn't resist getting a 'smiley face' yellow version. This stubborn, raw 303 sound is spot on. What a terrible sounding little acid machine you are, I thought. You're no good for much else...

And then it sang... :loves:


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Re: Behringer TD-3

Post by 3lbFlax » Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:42 am

I do recommend checking our the internal filter tweak and the effect it can have - it brought mine into line considerably, and let me use the full range of the freq knob without 'going over'. You may prefer the sound of the higher range, but for me taming it was the key to keeping the TD-3, which I'd otherwise have written off as another close-but-no-cigar effort.

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Re: Behringer TD-3

Post by skunk3 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:10 pm

vytis wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:29 am
Couldn't resist getting a 'smiley face' yellow version. This stubborn, raw 303 sound is spot on. What a terrible sounding little acid machine you are, I thought. You're no good for much else...

And then it sang... :loves:

thats pretty!
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Re: Behringer TD-3

Post by Shakespeare » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:32 pm

Really nice, vytis.

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Re: Behringer TD-3

Post by col » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:02 pm

If you like that check out Recondite.

https://www.discogs.com/Recondite-On-Ac ... se/3503836

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Re: Behringer TD-3

Post by booger » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:29 pm

Question for those that have done the VCF mod to make the TD-3 ‘darker’... How far did you have to turn the screw to the left to achieve a tone that was more similar to a TB-303?

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Re: Behringer TD-3

Post by Kattefjaes » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:50 pm

booger wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:29 pm
Question for those that have done the VCF mod to make the TD-3 ‘darker’... How far did you have to turn the screw to the left to achieve a tone that was more similar to a TB-303?
If you really worry about such things, there's a little bit of vague calibration info in the tb-303 service manual.

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Re: Behringer TD-3

Post by Red Electric Rainbow » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:01 pm

if you want it to sound dark then write your melodies in minor scales
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Re: Behringer TD-3

Post by 3lbFlax » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:26 am

booger wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:29 pm
Question for those that have done the VCF mod to make the TD-3 ‘darker’... How far did you have to turn the screw to the left to achieve a tone that was more similar to a TB-303?
It wasn't much - my first attempt overshot the mark (I was A/Bing it with a genuine 303). However, I recently had the TD out again and I've noticed it's problematic with the cutoff low and the env/decay high - sliding sounds are filtered to nothing much faster than on the real thing (accent also seems to make this worse). But if I raise the internal value again, I know it'll be too bright at the max. Both scenarios will annoy me. The TD at the moment is very close as long as I don't have that particular combo active. As always, the seemingly simple 303 proves to be anything but.

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Re: Behringer TD-3

Post by booger » Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:04 am

3lbFlax wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:26 am
booger wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:29 pm
Question for those that have done the VCF mod to make the TD-3 ‘darker’... How far did you have to turn the screw to the left to achieve a tone that was more similar to a TB-303?
It wasn't much - my first attempt overshot the mark (I was A/Bing it with a genuine 303). However, I recently had the TD out again and I've noticed it's problematic with the cutoff low and the env/decay high - sliding sounds are filtered to nothing much faster than on the real thing (accent also seems to make this worse). But if I raise the internal value again, I know it'll be too bright at the max. Both scenarios will annoy me. The TD at the moment is very close as long as I don't have that particular combo active. As always, the seemingly simple 303 proves to be anything but.
Thanks for the answer!

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