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Re: Behringer: practices, ethics, morals and legitimacy.

Post by Smother » Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:29 pm

Man-In-A-Suitcase wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:22 pm
Smother wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:09 pm
So please accept it and put your thinkings if you don't agree.
I think it's time you gave it a rest.

There is nothing you can do, nothing i can do, nothing anyone can do,
sure you can boycott behringer products but your sales won't be missed.

Smother/Simpler what country are you from? I notice english isn't your first language!
I don't boycott anything, I don't need their products.
I am not antianything, I don't care about synths of the 80s, I played them in the 80s and don't need them anymore.
It's not important where I come from and who I am.
I give it a rest if you all stop being so poisoning to the other point of views.

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Re: Behringer: practices, ethics, morals and legitimacy.

Post by dkMode » Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:35 pm

Simpler aka Smother, just move on. Now you are in here passing lies about how people treated you on GS. How many days have you been on a “I hate Uli” binge? Almost a whole month.

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Re: Behringer: practices, ethics, morals and legitimacy.

Post by kcearl » Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:37 pm

Smother wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:25 pm
kcearl wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:19 pm
So youre here to find a forum to talk about music?


Lie number one


Simpler was not your first username on GS


Lie number two


Posters, I mean trolls, like you are forum cancer...good luck MW, he's all yours :yay:
You must have big problems man if you think that the problem of forums is me.
And talking about cancer just shows me how bad and wrong is what you need to write.
Where all this rage come from?
Never thought about curing it?
But again, you always bring the discussion out of topic.
I am not important as you are not important.
Anything to say about the title of the thread?
No rage SouvlakiSpace, I mean troll

And as I have you on ignore on GS Im hardly likely to talk with you here...let these guys put up with your incessant trolling, it gives us a break. MW needs more behringer threads...

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Re: Behringer: practices, ethics, morals and legitimacy.

Post by martimous » Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:38 pm

Man-In-A-Suitcase wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:43 pm
<snip> We just have peeps on here mouthing off making noise because they think clones will affect their investments (synths) in the future. Honestly
i am beginning to think they way some go on about their gear on here that they are probably sleeping with it too!

What's more important in value these days? Your precious vintage synth or your life ?
I'm thinking that if anyone is buying (vintage) equipment as an investment, they should prepare to be disappointed. I think it's a general rule of economics that if a seller is charging more than market price for something, another seller will move in with a lower price.
I think a lot of the value of some of the vintage synths is more of an emotional appeal. I don't really see how anything that Behringer or anyone else does will change any of that. For some folks, they will not be tempted to bite on B equipment because it's not the true vintage piece they're lusting after. For others, I think it lowers the price point and the barriers to entry into what can be a pretty expensive hobby.
Personally, I don't think Behringer has anything I'm interested in.

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Re: Behringer: practices, ethics, morals and legitimacy.

Post by StillNotWorking » Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:39 pm

Man-In-A-Suitcase wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:28 pm
StillNotWorking wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:20 pm
That's why I bor you all.
Yes, thanks for bringing that to our attention. Have bookmarked it for future reference.
Will you be able to elaborate how you think that comment reflect on you as a interesting discussion partner?
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Re: Behringer: practices, ethics, morals and legitimacy.

Post by Smother » Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:40 pm

dkMode wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:35 pm
Simpler aka Smother, just move on. Now you are in here passing lies about how people treated you on GS. How many days have you been on a “I hate Uli” binge? Almost a whole month.
Is there a rule that I cannot make an account here, anyone who I am?
I don't hate anyone, 10 times I said it.
I just want to know if you are fine with what your master did yesterday and what GS mods didn't do.
Why do you all take it so personally?
Can you just look at it without thinking you are at a football match?
Can you all just say what you think about it?
I can only see you are all so defensive.
Why?

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Re: Behringer: practices, ethics, morals and legitimacy.

Post by Man-In-A-Suitcase » Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:42 pm

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Re: Behringer: practices, ethics, morals and legitimacy.

Post by Smother » Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:43 pm

kcearl wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:37 pm
Smother wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:25 pm
kcearl wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:19 pm
So youre here to find a forum to talk about music?


Lie number one


Simpler was not your first username on GS


Lie number two


Posters, I mean trolls, like you are forum cancer...good luck MW, he's all yours :yay:
You must have big problems man if you think that the problem of forums is me.
And talking about cancer just shows me how bad and wrong is what you need to write.
Where all this rage come from?
Never thought about curing it?
But again, you always bring the discussion out of topic.
I am not important as you are not important.
Anything to say about the title of the thread?
No rage SouvlakiSpace, I mean troll

And as I have you on ignore on GS Im hardly likely to talk with you here...let these guys put up with your incessant trolling, it gives us a break. MW needs more behringer threads...
Wow I can understand why you pass your days writing here and there.
Anything you don't like is a troll.
The world must a very bad place for you this way.
Go on, no worry. Choose a target and throw all your rage to it.
It's full of Trolls out there.
Kick them out, you hero.

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Re: Behringer: practices, ethics, morals and legitimacy.

Post by thee ghost ov n_phay » Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:50 pm

This thread is yoga flame for all time.

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Re: Behringer: practices, ethics, morals and legitimacy.

Post by StillNotWorking » Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:51 pm

Man-In-A-Suitcase wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:42 pm
Obviously you have no concept of humour. It's probably not your strongest point either.
You seem to prefer more intimate discussion. Please tell where and how can better myself! Everyone here telling me I never take anything serious.
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Re: Behringer: practices, ethics, morals and legitimacy.

Post by Licudi » Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:57 pm

Christ on a fucking bike... Uli's non-stop shitshow destroyed Gearslutz. Is there no way of saving Muffs from this crap?

:sstorm:

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Re: Behringer: practices, ethics, morals and legitimacy.

Post by Man-In-A-Suitcase » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:04 pm

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Re: Behringer: practices, ethics, morals and legitimacy.

Post by strettara » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:20 pm

You kids shouldn’t play so rough. Somebody’s gonna start crying.
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Re: Behringer: practices, ethics, morals and legitimacy.

Post by StillNotWorking » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:23 pm

Don't get it. In my web browser I have to specific click to get into this thread. And that unsubscribe thingy keep your Notification drop down quiet. Why add to a topic of no interest? I'm sure you guys are ignoring most of whats happeneing on Muff without commenting in all those threads about how little interest it has to you.

Or is this part of a campaign to silent the thread?
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Re: Behringer: practices, ethics, morals and legitimacy.

Post by dkMode » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:27 pm

Smother wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:40 pm
dkMode wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:35 pm
Simpler aka Smother, just move on. Now you are in here passing lies about how people treated you on GS. How many days have you been on a “I hate Uli” binge? Almost a whole month.
Is there a rule that I cannot make an account here, anyone who I am?
I don't hate anyone, 10 times I said it.
I just want to know if you are fine with what your master did yesterday and what GS mods didn't do.
Why do you all take it so personally?
Can you just look at it without thinking you are at a football match?
Can you all just say what you think about it?
I can only see you are all so defensive.
Why?


You seem to be taking this far more personal than I. You have made rallying against Uli your life long mission. As long as you do this, he really is the Master over you and your mind. Is Uli and Behringer on your mind 24/7? If so, I am right. Uli owns you now and forever. LoL

I’ve offered you help with music and all things audio but not once have you made an attempt to a real discussion.

I just came on here to watch the nuclear meltdown you’ve been creating on the interwebs. I am actually thinking of making a video on people like you in the audio industry. “The self righteous musician who doesn’t make any music.”

Through your many accounts on multiple forum boards. Link us to one of your threads you have created to discusses music or gear?

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Re: Behringer: practices, ethics, morals and legitimacy.

Post by Smother » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:29 pm

StillNotWorking wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:23 pm
Don't get it. In my web browser I have to specific click to get into this thread. And that unsubscribe thingy keep your Notification drop down quiet. Why add to a topic of no interest? I'm sure you guys are ignoring most of whats happeneing on Muff without commenting in all those threads about how little interest it has to you.

Or is this part of a campaign to silent the thread?
Usually that's the strategy.
Confuse the thread with heavy attacks until it reaches the lowest level.
Then starting to say it is a very boring pathetic thread.
Then they delete it or move it.
Just learn from GS about this strategy and try to fight it.
Otherwise it will become like there too.
In my opinion, you should put a limit to this kind of attacks and language because is the way they take control.
But I am just here one day, I can move anytime I want.

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Re: Behringer: practices, ethics, morals and legitimacy.

Post by Smother » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:33 pm

dkMode wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:27 pm
Smother wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:40 pm
dkMode wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:35 pm
Simpler aka Smother, just move on. Now you are in here passing lies about how people treated you on GS. How many days have you been on a “I hate Uli” binge? Almost a whole month.
Is there a rule that I cannot make an account here, anyone who I am?
I don't hate anyone, 10 times I said it.
I just want to know if you are fine with what your master did yesterday and what GS mods didn't do.
Why do you all take it so personally?
Can you just look at it without thinking you are at a football match?
Can you all just say what you think about it?
I can only see you are all so defensive.
Why?


You seem to be taking this far more personal than I. You have made rallying against Uli your life long mission. As long as you do this, he really is the Master over you and your mind. Is Uli and Behringer on your mind 24/7? If so, I am right. Uli owns you now and forever. LoL

I’ve offered you help with music and all things audio but not once have you made an attempt to a real discussion.

I just came on here to watch the nuclear meltdown you’ve been creating on the interwebs. I am actually thinking of making a video on people like you in the audio industry. “The self righteous musician who doesn’t make any music.”

Through your many accounts on multiple forum boards. Link us to one of your threads you have created to discusses music or gear?
Man I am just looking for a healthy forum.
And I have just this account here so I don't know what you are talking about.
I am legal as you here.
I am not on a mission against anyone, I just look for a place where I can talk without having to watch my back from people that ally to put shit on every critic.
I am starting to think the situation here is like there.
So is there a place with normal people on the net about this sort of things?
Or we are just getting used to this very low level of discussion in any forum?

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Re: Behringer: practices, ethics, morals and legitimacy.

Post by Man-In-A-Suitcase » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:35 pm

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Re: Behringer: practices, ethics, morals and legitimacy.

Post by Be Sandy? » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:47 pm

Be Sandy? wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:09 pm
...we'll largely leave you to it to discuss the topic(s) at hand here but please keep it civil. "Fuck you" (or equivalent) is not a valid response to another user's opinion. Ethics can be an interesting topic. Please make this thread reflect that rather than turn into a shitshow that we have to lock. It's up to you. Sometimes no response can be a better option than a hastily typed reply in the heat of the moment.
Just reminding myself what I wrote in the first post of this thread.

The point of this thread, which was my idea, was to remove the discussion of Behringer's business practices from every single thread that dared have the B word in its title. People who wanted to discuss the equipment felt hounded by others which really isn't fair. I think in that respect this thread has worked.

But it has now turned into the very shitshow I mentioned in my first post.

Options:

- Lock the thread.
Where does any discussion of Behringer's practices go then? Back into every other Behringer thread? Which was the cause of the problem in the first place. We could say "no business practice etc discussion" in remaining Behringer threads, but then inevitably there'll be accusations that the moderators are shills who are clamping down on any negative comments relating to the company and removing the right of people to have their say.

- Leave the thread open.
And hope that people exercise a bit of self-control. Which, I'm not convinced will happen given how things have gone so far.

- Some other alternative.
What exactly, I do not at the moment know.

I'm genuinely interested in what people think. I'd rather not bump this thread more in order for you to give your opinions here so please PM them to me. I'll then do something about the issue over the weekend.

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Re: Behringer: practices, ethics, morals and legitimacy.

Post by kcearl » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:51 pm

Smother wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:33 pm
dkMode wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:27 pm
Smother wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:40 pm
dkMode wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:35 pm
Simpler aka Smother, just move on. Now you are in here passing lies about how people treated you on GS. How many days have you been on a “I hate Uli” binge? Almost a whole month.
Is there a rule that I cannot make an account here, anyone who I am?
I don't hate anyone, 10 times I said it.
I just want to know if you are fine with what your master did yesterday and what GS mods didn't do.
Why do you all take it so personally?
Can you just look at it without thinking you are at a football match?
Can you all just say what you think about it?
I can only see you are all so defensive.
Why?


You seem to be taking this far more personal than I. You have made rallying against Uli your life long mission. As long as you do this, he really is the Master over you and your mind. Is Uli and Behringer on your mind 24/7? If so, I am right. Uli owns you now and forever. LoL

I’ve offered you help with music and all things audio but not once have you made an attempt to a real discussion.

I just came on here to watch the nuclear meltdown you’ve been creating on the interwebs. I am actually thinking of making a video on people like you in the audio industry. “The self righteous musician who doesn’t make any music.”

Through your many accounts on multiple forum boards. Link us to one of your threads you have created to discusses music or gear?
Man I am just looking for a healthy forum.
And I have just this account here so I don't know what you are talking about.
I am legal as you here.
I am not on a mission against anyone, I just look for a place where I can talk without having to watch my back from people that ally to put shit on every critic.
I am starting to think the situation here is like there.
So is there a place with normal people on the net about this sort of things?
Or we are just getting used to this very low level of discussion in any forum?
Normal people like behringer synths, normal people dislike behringer synths

Normal people dont only post in behringer threads or only make behringer threads

Trolls do

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Re: Behringer: practices, ethics, morals and legitimacy.

Post by Yes Powder » Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:34 pm

Be Sandy? wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:47 pm
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Re: Behringer: practices, ethics, morals and legitimacy.

Post by nickster » Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:05 pm

I say we close down this thread Sandy. Nothing good to see here and tbh it is brining out the worst in people.

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Re: Behringer: practices, ethics, morals and legitimacy.

Post by Dave Kendall » Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:46 pm

^ Hmm. I do like that idea, and it would stop it for a while, but there's a danger it would crop up again in every other thread with B in it like Be Sandy? said.

Personally, I think the idea to have a dedicated thread here was the best compromise out of the available options for the mods. Folks can argue here (politely, we hope), and the rest of the forum can carry on discussing synths and cats.

I just don't think the Clone Wars* are going away any time soon. IMO, it's best to limit them to a small corner that none of us have to go to unless we wish to.



* surprised there hasn't been a meme of that yet ;)
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Re: Behringer: practices, ethics, morals and legitimacy.

Post by Smother » Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:23 pm

kcearl wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:51 pm
Smother wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:33 pm
dkMode wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:27 pm
Smother wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:40 pm
dkMode wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:35 pm
Simpler aka Smother, just move on. Now you are in here passing lies about how people treated you on GS. How many days have you been on a “I hate Uli” binge? Almost a whole month.
Is there a rule that I cannot make an account here, anyone who I am?
I don't hate anyone, 10 times I said it.
I just want to know if you are fine with what your master did yesterday and what GS mods didn't do.
Why do you all take it so personally?
Can you just look at it without thinking you are at a football match?
Can you all just say what you think about it?
I can only see you are all so defensive.
Why?


You seem to be taking this far more personal than I. You have made rallying against Uli your life long mission. As long as you do this, he really is the Master over you and your mind. Is Uli and Behringer on your mind 24/7? If so, I am right. Uli owns you now and forever. LoL

I’ve offered you help with music and all things audio but not once have you made an attempt to a real discussion.

I just came on here to watch the nuclear meltdown you’ve been creating on the interwebs. I am actually thinking of making a video on people like you in the audio industry. “The self righteous musician who doesn’t make any music.”

Through your many accounts on multiple forum boards. Link us to one of your threads you have created to discusses music or gear?
Man I am just looking for a healthy forum.
And I have just this account here so I don't know what you are talking about.
I am legal as you here.
I am not on a mission against anyone, I just look for a place where I can talk without having to watch my back from people that ally to put shit on every critic.
I am starting to think the situation here is like there.
So is there a place with normal people on the net about this sort of things?
Or we are just getting used to this very low level of discussion in any forum?
Normal people like behringer synths, normal people dislike behringer synths

Normal people dont only post in behringer threads or only make behringer threads

Trolls do
Oh Jesus, can you please read what's written before you and respect the people and stop attacking like a 12 years old kid?

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Re: Behringer: practices, ethics, morals and legitimacy.

Post by Red Electric Rainbow » Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:34 pm

i think its good to keep this all in one thread tbh. members that choose to participate do so willingly.
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