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Rich, expansive sounding synth

Post by Voltcontrol » Mon Apr 06, 2020 5:49 am

What's a rich, expansive sounding poly synth I can buy new?
The description 'fat' I find too 'Yo', but that is what I mean.

I've played with OB-XA's in the past and tried an OB-6 a couple o days ago, while it is great in it's own right, I am still disappointed that newer synths do not seem to be able to product the same level of lush, rich, expansive sounds.

Where to look?
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Re: Rich, expansive sounding synth

Post by wuff_miggler » Mon Apr 06, 2020 5:57 am

Jx-10, jx-8p?

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Re: Rich, expansive sounding synth

Post by Voltcontrol » Mon Apr 06, 2020 5:58 am

wuff_miggler wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 5:57 am
Jx-10, jx-8p?

Pretty phat !
Pologies, I'm after something I can buy new.

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Re: Rich, expansive sounding synth

Post by racooniac » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:06 am

if you want detuned and drifting, you need old, new synths are made of parts that are too good.
or you learn how to program patches because you can make most modern synths drifting and detuned if you want,
its just more work than with old ones.

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Re: Rich, expansive sounding synth

Post by 3hands » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:17 am

racooniac wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:06 am
if you want detuned and drifting, you need old, new synths are made of parts that are too good.
or you learn how to program patches because you can make most modern synths drifting and detuned if you want,
its just more work than with old ones.
I agree with this. If I need something like that, I turn to my Jupiter 6, or my ESQ1. I can’t think of a modern equivalent that can get close to where those machines can go sonically.
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Re: Rich, expansive sounding synth

Post by trentpmcd » Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:25 am

There are a lot of clones out there and there seems to be more every day. The clones, from the new KARP 2600 to the dreaded "B" company, all sound great. On the modular side, I love, love the way my Mos-Labs 901's sound. Nothing modern comes close. I don't know about poly-synths yet, but there will be some soon, I'm sure. Anyway, my opinion, if you want vintage sound in a new instrument, you buy a vintage instrument in a clone.

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Re: Rich, expansive sounding synth

Post by Thorsday » Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:33 am

DSI has a "Slop" parameter in their synths. Check out Prophet 12.

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Re: Rich, expansive sounding synth

Post by Tajnost » Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:41 am

You can hardly have the same feeling with modern poly synths. Sequential P6 / OB6 and Moog One probably the most "lush". Somehow Waldorf Quantum has a bit of it, especially if you have it in front of you.

If you're ok with paraphony and this kind of sound, Moog Matriarch is quite nice and close to the lushness of vintage instruments.

I think it would be easier to find a good deal on Polysix, Juno, Jupiter, or some more rare units from 80 / 90. Oberheim Matrix racks sound quite warm.

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Re: Rich, expansive sounding synth

Post by estin » Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:46 am

any modern vst well programmed and EQ`d then sent out to vhs tape and back. :party:

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Re: Rich, expansive sounding synth

Post by nidas » Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:02 am

Check out DSI OB-6 its sounding great of its own I think. Fatter more Oberheim (duh) than the P6, or maybe the Black corp synth´s which I think sounds great.

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Re: Rich, expansive sounding synth

Post by Red Electric Rainbow » Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:21 am

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Re: Rich, expansive sounding synth

Post by pelican » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:02 am

Y’all keep recommending these weak synths lol. Only thing that compares to vintage fatness is maybe the river. Going back a few years sunsyn.
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Re: Rich, expansive sounding synth

Post by strettara » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:08 am

brandonlogic wrote:
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Moog One?
That was my thought.
how soon is now

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Re: Rich, expansive sounding synth

Post by StillNotWorking » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:27 am

Voltcontrol wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 5:49 am
What's a rich, expansive sounding poly synth I can buy new?
The description 'fat' I find too 'Yo', but that is what I mean.

I've played with OB-XA's in the past and tried an OB-6 a couple o days ago, while it is great in it's own right, I am still disappointed that newer synths do not seem to be able to product the same level of lush, rich, expansive sounds.

Where to look?
Guess the only reason these old Oberheim cost the same as a car these days simply are we can't find the sound you describe in any new synth. Why else would people bother buying one of these monstrosities?

I'm still currius to hear the UDO Super 6 in real life. It seam to have many of the modern methods to widen and fluctuate parameters and at the same time have (edit: Stereo) analog audio path.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... DO+Super+6
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Re: Rich, expansive sounding synth

Post by Voltcontrol » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:59 am

I'll keep investigating more about the mentioned options for a bit, thank you all. More options are welcome!
Jomox Sunsym fits the bill very well, but so expensive.
Moog One also, kind of. And such a beauty of an instrument. But above what I'm willing spend too.

Next to what's been mentioned I like:
Abstrakt Instruments VS-1
And..
Call me crazy, but the Vermona PerFOURmer also has parts of the magic I'm looking for.

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Re: Rich, expansive sounding synth

Post by lisa » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:47 pm

ELTA Solar 50 :bacon:
My first modular track where I used drum modules! BIA, Entity Percussion, Chimera, Elements. There's also a ton of FM cross modulation from the Instruō Cš-L in there and the Metasonix R56 is a big part of the sound. :star:


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Re: Rich, expansive sounding synth

Post by nodog » Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:15 pm

I'll probably get laughed at for this but IMO the Peak/Summit is the best synth now available at your local megastore. It's very very versatile. Yes, it can do bland sounds but with a few little tricks it really comes alive. One of those tricks is to just double the voices when you need it to go fatter. Dial in a bit (much) diverge and drift and there you are. Maybe the Summit is the wiser choice over the Peak as you will run out of voices this way.

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Re: Rich, expansive sounding synth

Post by Voltcontrol » Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:27 pm

nodog wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:15 pm
I'll probably get laughed at for this but IMO the Peak/Summit.
You might get laughed at, but not for this recommendation by me! Not a bad shout at all, for a lot of aspects it holds up quite well indeed. But there is that final bit of something I can't quite grasp that I'm missing with the Peak.

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Re: Rich, expansive sounding synth

Post by tito_tunes » Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:41 pm

Get the lushest reverb you can afford. That'll make any synth sound lush and expansive. Add a little bit of slow random LFO to pitch. Here's a great example with the humble TX81Z and strymon big sky.

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Re: Rich, expansive sounding synth

Post by Jaypee » Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:46 am

Ob-6, Prophet-6, Omega 8 sound very expansive to me.
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Re: Rich, expansive sounding synth

Post by fatbenelton » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:56 am

Deckard's Dream?

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Re: Rich, expansive sounding synth

Post by 100000bps » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:47 am

VS-1

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Re: Rich, expansive sounding synth

Post by steffengrondahl » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:10 am

100000bps wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:47 am
VS-1
^ Same though here. And thread here: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=226256

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Re: Rich, expansive sounding synth

Post by blinosynth » Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:05 am

also thinking on buying some vintage cheap monosynth and then use them in poly samplers like ensoniq mirage or the eps 16 ...
quite cool optionn out there!

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