Any compact mixer like this, but not Behringer?

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Any compact mixer like this, but not Behringer?

Post by batchas » Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:27 am

I'm looking for a small mixer like this one, but not Behringer. I could not find :(

The small size matters here.
I saw Mackie, Yamaha and so on, but all go over 27cm, 30cm etc. I have already 30 cm mixer with 16 channels, aux/sends etc etc.
I wish I could find a smaller one.

I need:
• Size like the Behringer one is good: 8.7" x 9.5" - 24 x 22cm. Like 20x20cm size is excellent.
• Important is 4 x stereo channels (at least 3 x and 2 x mono).
• At least 1 x send/return (optimal 2 x).
• 1 x XLR Mic Preamp in is sufficient for me and could even do without.
• No need for RCA.
• No need for internal effects.
• Analog. No USB. Simple.

Any suggestion?
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Re: Any compact mixer like this, but not Behringer?

Post by col » Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:19 am

Have a look at the Mackie VLZ4 series.

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Re: Any compact mixer like this, but not Behringer?

Post by Arneb » Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:02 am

A rotary DJ mixer, but that's a rather different price point...

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Re: Any compact mixer like this, but not Behringer?

Post by Jay F. » Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:12 am

Why not Behringer ?

Mackie 1202 VLZ4 might be what you are looking for.
Or the Yamaha MG12. The MG10 is smaller with only 3 stereo channel, but if you can live with 2 mono channels as a stereo channel, it might do the trick.

They are all a bit larger than what you are looking for though.
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Re: Any compact mixer like this, but not Behringer?

Post by gloamtrotter » Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:12 am

Maybe one of the Allen and Heath Zeds?

There’s also the SSL SiX which is pricey but compact.

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Re: Any compact mixer like this, but not Behringer?

Post by slumberjack » Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:28 am

I second a small A&H and if that's too expensive Soundcraft or as others said Mackie...
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Re: Any compact mixer like this, but not Behringer?

Post by mor4sso » Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:16 am

Mackie 1202VLZ4 :)

I have one for sale if you're interested!

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Re: Any compact mixer like this, but not Behringer?

Post by batchas » Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:40 am

mor4sso wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:16 am
Mackie 1202VLZ4 :)

I have one for sale if you're interested!
Dimensions: 303 x 75 x 284 mm
batchas wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:27 am
I saw Mackie, Yamaha and so on, but all go over 27cm, 30cm etc. I have already 30 cm mixer with 16 channels, aux/sends etc etc.
I wish I could find a smaller one.
I need:
• Size like the Behringer one is good: 8.7" x 9.5" - 24 x 22cm. Like 20x20cm size is excellent.
Thanx to all for trying to help. I appreciate :tu: :tu: :tu:
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Re: Any compact mixer like this, but not Behringer?

Post by depth20 » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:56 pm

E&S DJR400

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Re: Any compact mixer like this, but not Behringer?

Post by dubonaire » Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:19 pm

depth20 wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:56 pm
E&S DJR400
Not really a good recommendation in my opinion. Only 3 line level channels and no pan.

I suggest the A&H Zed 10FX.

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Re: Any compact mixer like this, but not Behringer?

Post by synthfanatic » Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:02 am

I recommend the Midiman MicroMixer 18. It's an 18-channel mixer (12 channel + 3 stereo pairs) and ultra compact.

I wish there was a manufacturer making something comparable today...

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Re: Any compact mixer like this, but not Behringer?

Post by Voltcontrol » Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:07 am

RCF F12 looks interesting imo but doesn't meet your size requirement and the smaller units from that series don't meet the spec sheet..

Zoom Livetrak L8 is a different approach that might be interesting (e.g. feature packed for its size).
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Re: Any compact mixer like this, but not Behringer?

Post by unpunk » Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:33 am

The Korg Volca mixer?

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Re: Any compact mixer like this, but not Behringer?

Post by flashheart » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:22 pm

unpunk wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:33 am
The Korg Volca mixer?
Really???? The worst possible set of features, built like a toy. Bumped into Gaz Williams (of SonicState fame) at Superbooth last year, I maentioned there are few really bad products these days and he went into a total rant about the Volca mixer and how it was a complete insult to the market ...
I do see the OPs point, for various reasons some of us don't want to buy Behringer but many of their smaller mixers seem to have useful features everyone else ignores. The compact stereo channels w/o EQ and an FX send are great for synths if you want something really compact. But everyone else still tells me how great their mic pres or specially tuned EQ is, you know what I couldn't give a FF how good your mic pres or EQ is - I won't be using them :despair:. I've got synths with (mostly) stereo outs and I'd like a v compact mixer to connect 3 or 4 together, how is that so hard? [/rant]
Having said all that :confused: , the Mackie 804 seems to tick all the boxes AFAICS.
I'm not buying a maths though, not my idea of fun...

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Re: Any compact mixer like this, but not Behringer?

Post by flashheart » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:31 pm

flashheart wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:22 pm
unpunk wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:33 am
The Korg Volca mixer?
Really???? The worst possible set of features, built like a toy. Bumped into Gaz Williams (of SonicState fame) at Superbooth last year, I maentioned there are few really bad products these days and he went into a total rant about the Volca mixer and how it was a complete insult to the market ...
I do see the OPs point, for various reasons some of us don't want to buy Behringer but many of their smaller mixers seem to have useful features everyone else ignores. The compact stereo channels w/o EQ and an FX send are great for synths if you want something really compact. But everyone else still tells me how great their mic pres or specially tuned EQ is, you know what I couldn't give a FF how good your mic pres or EQ is - I won't be using them :despair:. I've got synths with (mostly) stereo outs and I'd like a v compact mixer to connect 3 or 4 together, how is that so hard? [/rant]
Having said all that :confused: , the Mackie 804 VLZ seems to tick all the boxes AFAICS.
Oops. Obviously so good I had to quote it :)
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Re: Any compact mixer like this, but not Behringer?

Post by Noisepan » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:32 pm

Speaking of volca mixer, sounds like this would fit your bill:

2 aux sends
2 dedicated stereo, 6 mono

vixen mixer

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Re: Any compact mixer like this, but not Behringer?

Post by jimmie » Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:33 pm

Edirol (roland) M-10MX here. Super compact for 5 stereo in and run on battery if need. Cons are some inputs are RCA, no EFX send/return. I want to trade this to the Vixen mixer.. (any review of it somewhere?)

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Re: Any compact mixer like this, but not Behringer?

Post by steveoath » Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:55 am

Not exactly to the asked for specifications (although I do believe the did make a bigger version).

I use this tapco mixer for years.
https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/mackie-tapco-6306

Built like a tank, does what I need. Would recommend. Dunno if they make them anymore though.

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Re: Any compact mixer like this, but not Behringer?

Post by Efudd » Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:09 am

WMD Performance Mixer in a POD case?

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