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Re: Sequentix Cirklon

Post by tIB » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:36 am

Waiting seems the most sensible option until the new revision I out, though I think that will take time. Can't see the v1 units losing value in the mean time. I forget what I paid for mine, but it was certainly fair.

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Re: Sequentix Cirklon

Post by raft » Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:52 pm

what kind of switches are the keys? says cherry mx on the site, I'm guessing they are clicky blues?

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Re: Sequentix Cirklon

Post by miminashi » Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:37 pm

They are linear switches, maybe blacks. Blues would have driven me insane.

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Re: Sequentix Cirklon

Post by loydb » Sun Apr 19, 2020 4:06 pm

I'm very happy they're making an upgrade package for v1.
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Re: Sequentix Cirklon

Post by minimalist » Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:50 am

The switches are definitely Cherry mx black. This was confirmed on the Sequentix forum a while ago.

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Re: Sequentix Cirklon

Post by Bath House » Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:46 am

Price talk - this was my PayPal invoice in 2017. I think I paid another $50 brokerage fee to whoever delivered it.
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Re: Sequentix Cirklon

Post by Sinamsis » Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:56 pm

Bath House wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:46 am
Price talk - this was my PayPal invoice in 2017. I think I paid another $50 brokerage fee to whoever delivered it.
Interesting... Shipping is less than I expected. But I would've expected to have to pay more in import duties. My experience with import duties have been all over the place, which ultimately leads me to believe that they are not collected consistently in the US. I could be completely wrong. But it really seems like a coin toss.

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Re: Sequentix Cirklon

Post by tIB » Fri Apr 24, 2020 1:18 am

Bath House wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:46 am
Price talk - this was my PayPal invoice in 2017. I think I paid another $50 brokerage fee to whoever delivered it.
Thanks. British/euro users would have paid another 20% vat on that too.

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Re: Sequentix Cirklon

Post by minimalist » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:59 am

Customs and duties can be a coin toss regardless of which way it is going. I've had some very nice things get through with no charge and conversely had some surprising bills which took much of the pleasure of of an arrival.

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Re: Sequentix Cirklon

Post by (((EMP))) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 1:47 pm

The customs thing is very weird here in US. For about 30+ years of buying all manner of music gear (and backpacking equipment, etc) from around the globe, I was never charged anything. Then recently UPS (Specifically UPS) started doing this “we’re holding your package until you pay us $75” thing...????? Regardless of the stated value, $75. $2000 or $200, they want $75???? I’ve actually called them and tried to question them about the criteria and never got an actual answer. Very strange.

BTW, When I got my Cirklon, maybe late 2012 or early 2013.... no charge. Its so random.

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Re: Sequentix Cirklon

Post by freakynorth » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:31 pm

minimalist wrote:
Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:59 am
Customs and duties can be a coin toss regardless of which way it is going. I've had some very nice things get through with no charge and conversely had some surprising bills which took much of the pleasure of of an arrival.

Same!
I’ve had things declared at full value without being marked as a gift and I don’t get dinged with fees but other cheaper things I do.. I think they must do it randomly? I have no idea. Total nightmare.


Been on the wait list for a Cirklon for only a few months now. Apparently a huge wait???

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Re: Sequentix Cirklon

Post by Sinamsis » Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:11 pm

(((EMP))) wrote:
Fri Apr 24, 2020 1:47 pm
The customs thing is very weird here in US. For about 30+ years of buying all manner of music gear (and backpacking equipment, etc) from around the globe, I was never charged anything. Then recently UPS (Specifically UPS) started doing this “we’re holding your package until you pay us $75” thing...????? Regardless of the stated value, $75. $2000 or $200, they want $75???? I’ve actually called them and tried to question them about the criteria and never got an actual answer. Very strange.

BTW, When I got my Cirklon, maybe late 2012 or early 2013.... no charge. Its so random.
Those are probably “handling fees” separate from any taxes that might be collected. It’s supposedly for dealing with any customs related paperwork, etc.

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Re: Sequentix Cirklon

Post by dubonaire » Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:43 pm

Sinamsis wrote:
Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:11 pm
(((EMP))) wrote:
Fri Apr 24, 2020 1:47 pm
The customs thing is very weird here in US. For about 30+ years of buying all manner of music gear (and backpacking equipment, etc) from around the globe, I was never charged anything. Then recently UPS (Specifically UPS) started doing this “we’re holding your package until you pay us $75” thing...????? Regardless of the stated value, $75. $2000 or $200, they want $75???? I’ve actually called them and tried to question them about the criteria and never got an actual answer. Very strange.

BTW, When I got my Cirklon, maybe late 2012 or early 2013.... no charge. Its so random.
Those are probably “handling fees” separate from any taxes that might be collected. It’s supposedly for dealing with any customs related paperwork, etc.
The quotes are apt. I always get charged handling fees and storage fees while they get customs clearance. It's a classic, you have no choice. And here was I thinking handling is exactly what I am paying them to do in the first place. And paying them to keep your package on a shelf. Love that too. :eek:

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Re: Sequentix Cirklon

Post by Carrousel » Tue May 12, 2020 9:12 am

Had a brainwave with my cirklon set-up today and it’s lead me to ask the question: why would anyone ever want or need to use the soft midi-thru option in conjunction with local control switched off on a synth? (As described in the manual).

I was struggling with a few aspects of my new Novation Summit in terms of getting it to respond perfectly with local control off and all midi messages routed through the cirklon. Everything worked ok except for bank change messages and using the arpeggiator, neither of which work. I also had a few issues with the range switch of oscillator 2 getting stuck; weird.

I then realised I can just switch local control on the summit back on, switch soft-thru on the Summit’s Cirklon port off, make sure record enable was ‘on’ (and not ‘on/thru’) and also make sure the record soft thru function is ‘off’ on the record menu. This gives me the exact same functionality, but without having to have the possibility of midi message glitches or problems with arpeggiators. Now the Summit controls itself, the cirklon listens and records it whenever asked and then fires the messages back to it once recorded in - no midi loops and no glitches.

So, why would anyone ever use local control off with soft-thru on?
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Re: Sequentix Cirklon

Post by Bobby » Tue May 12, 2020 10:37 am

Carrousel wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 9:12 am
Had a brainwave with my cirklon set-up today and it’s lead me to ask the question: why would anyone ever want or need to use the soft midi-thru option in conjunction with local control switched off on a synth? (As described in the manual).

I was struggling with a few aspects of my new Novation Summit in terms of getting it to respond perfectly with local control off and all midi messages routed through the cirklon. Everything worked ok except for bank change messages and using the arpeggiator, neither of which work. I also had a few issues with the range switch of oscillator 2 getting stuck; weird.

I then realised I can just switch local control on the summit back on, switch soft-thru on the Summit’s Cirklon port off, make sure record enable was ‘on’ (and not ‘on/thru’) and also make sure the record soft thru function is ‘off’ on the record menu. This gives me the exact same functionality, but without having to have the possibility of midi message glitches or problems with arpeggiators. Now the Summit controls itself, the cirklon listens and records it whenever asked and then fires the messages back to it once recorded in - no midi loops and no glitches.

So, why would anyone ever use local control off with soft-thru on?

im guessing a lot of this might be handy where you want a master controller keyboard or have equipment that doesnt have keyboards.

That being said i think you have just solved a load of problems for me as ive initially set everything up with local off and soft-thrus and have a few bugs. I like the way your mind works.

Interested what others have to say on this?

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Re: Sequentix Cirklon

Post by Carrousel » Tue May 12, 2020 12:53 pm

Bobby wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 10:37 am
Carrousel wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 9:12 am
Had a brainwave with my cirklon set-up today and it’s lead me to ask the question: why would anyone ever want or need to use the soft midi-thru option in conjunction with local control switched off on a synth? (As described in the manual).

I was struggling with a few aspects of my new Novation Summit in terms of getting it to respond perfectly with local control off and all midi messages routed through the cirklon. Everything worked ok except for bank change messages and using the arpeggiator, neither of which work. I also had a few issues with the range switch of oscillator 2 getting stuck; weird.

I then realised I can just switch local control on the summit back on, switch soft-thru on the Summit’s Cirklon port off, make sure record enable was ‘on’ (and not ‘on/thru’) and also make sure the record soft thru function is ‘off’ on the record menu. This gives me the exact same functionality, but without having to have the possibility of midi message glitches or problems with arpeggiators. Now the Summit controls itself, the cirklon listens and records it whenever asked and then fires the messages back to it once recorded in - no midi loops and no glitches.

So, why would anyone ever use local control off with soft-thru on?

im guessing a lot of this might be handy where you want a master controller keyboard or have equipment that doesnt have keyboards.

That being said i think you have just solved a load of problems for me as ive initially set everything up with local off and soft-thrus and have a few bugs. I like the way your mind works.

Interested what others have to say on this?

I hope it does solve it for you, it’s certainly worked for me. I think my brain was stuck on the idea that I needed to have soft thru on in order to get any midi data back to the synth....completely forgetting that this is already taken care of with the instrument definition. So the only reason to have soft-thru on (in this case) would be to hear live playing, which is also heard with local control left on! Just make sure to switch the record thru setting off on the record menu; that avoids a potential midi loop whilst recording.
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Re: Sequentix Cirklon

Post by goldplate » Tue May 19, 2020 10:14 am

Carrousel wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 9:12 am
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So, why would anyone ever use local control off with soft-thru on?
Maybe some hints... http://forum.sequentix.com/viewtopic.php?p=22695#p22695

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Re: Sequentix Cirklon

Post by Angroc » Tue May 19, 2020 2:58 pm

I like the soft thru approach personally. Works very well if your board is multi-timbral, in my case the Andromeda and the Ensoniq SQ-80. That way I can switch what part to play, and what to part to edit, individually! But this question relies heavily on how well the board handles controlling itself though the Cirklon. Tried the same set-up on my Poly Evolver Keyboard, and it doesn't work as well for that one.

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