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Post by namshub » Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:45 pm

jonah wrote:Good timing! I was just about to post that a new editor has been released. (I'm going to try it after I write this...) http://www.retouchelibre.net/index.php? ... k5k-editor
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Hi, Anyone got this editor?? The site seems to be kaput...
I just acquired a k5000s:)

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Post by namshub » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:08 pm

Found an editor, now just have to get it working::))
Thought I'd post it here for future reference..
http://www.dontcrack.com/freeware/downl ... 5K-Editor/

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Post by ejr27233 » Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:13 am

Thanks for posting that. I've just dug my k5k out and this java editor is working in windows.
If you goto Xasas site there is a newer version ( .77) which has an instructions pdf

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Post by namshub » Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:39 pm

Yeah got the new version...
But can't seem to get the editor to work on a mac...?
Think it might be because I use a generic usb midi device without drivers??
got me stumped...

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Post by scozbor » Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:48 am

pretty sure that's the one i was thinking of... but sounds like you got a newer version.

good luck man
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Post by squatch » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:23 am

I'm taking my K5000s out for a jam on Saturday, should be fun
Gonna take a little rack with a Yamaha MU100 and Roland XV2020 to midi the Kawai to
I'm hoping the Kawai knobs will control the XV2020 parameters.
I'm assuming it will, if it can control JV's. Will report back!

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Post by nostalghia » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:57 pm

K5000S MIDI CC#s per knob:

Macro Control section:
16 18 74 73
17 19 77 78
71 75 76 72

Assignable section
80 81 82 83

You can check the back of the manual for your hardware synth, MIDI specs table may list the CC# for various parameters. Since the CC#s on the Kawai and on most synths can't be reassigned freely, it's a matter of luck-you're stuck with whatever knob happens to correspond to what parameter on the receiving end.

Edit: I don't have an XV2020, but took a look at the manual online. On page 144, under "Control Change" in the MIDI Implementation section, it lists the Controller numbers for various parameters. Any that match the CC#s I show above for the K5000S knobs should work for you. Looks like you will have knobs for filter cutoff, resonance, some envelope parameters and vibrato.

And any software instrument or FX (VST/AU plug ins) with a "MIDI Learn" feature works great-click a control on screen, select MIDI Learn, then turn the knob on the K5000S that you want to use to control it-doesn't matter what the CC# is, unless it's one you were already using for something else.
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Post by PISS.EXE » Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:18 pm

IF you guys haven't messed with sounddiver yet..... dang

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Post by Sburkart » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:13 pm

squatch wrote:I'm taking my K5000s out for a jam on Saturday, should be fun!
Be careful with the output jacks, both my K5000s suffered damage on Saturday night jams!:cry: 90 degree plugs can be your friends.

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Post by rayultine » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:32 pm

K5000S has been my main midi controller for 18 years. We can legally smoke cigarettes together now!

Ooo... I wonder what it sounds like going through one of the filters in my eurorack

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Post by TS » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:52 pm

I finally got mine back from the repair shop, it was damaged during shipping. I am looking forward to learning how to get the sounds I want.

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Post by filtermod » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:05 pm

Love mine, but I really wish that there was a current editor for Mac.
I used to use sounddiver on an old OS9 machine that finally bit the dust.
Anyone know of a good editor for El Capitan or later?

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Post by PISS.EXE » Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:50 am

filtermod wrote:Love mine, but I really wish that there was a current editor for Mac.
I used to use sounddiver on an old OS9 machine that finally bit the dust.
Anyone know of a good editor for El Capitan or later?

I run OS 9 Sounddiver on SheepShaver. It works fine for me, like using STEEM Engine for atari ST editors :tu:

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Post by filtermod » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:10 am

PISS.EXE wrote:
filtermod wrote:Love mine, but I really wish that there was a current editor for Mac.
I used to use sounddiver on an old OS9 machine that finally bit the dust.
Anyone know of a good editor for El Capitan or later?

I run OS 9 Sounddiver on SheepShaver. It works fine for me, like using STEEM Engine for atari ST editors :tu:
Thanks for the tip! :tu: Going to try this when I get a chance. Now I just have to find my sounddiver install disk and os9 drivers for my Unitor 8...

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Post by gruebleengourd » Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:08 am

PISS.EXE wrote: It works fine for me, like using STEEM Engine for atari ST editors :tu:
You've had good experience using STEEM with sysex editors? I've had a lot of bad experience with time outs. Did you have to make any special settings in the steem config?

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Post by PISS.EXE » Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:29 am

gruebleengourd wrote:
PISS.EXE wrote: It works fine for me, like using STEEM Engine for atari ST editors :tu:
You've had good experience using STEEM with sysex editors? I've had a lot of bad experience with time outs. Did you have to make any special settings in the steem config?
These two settings will help you
.Allow running status for output/input
Normal MIDI messages are made up of one status byte that describes the message and then one or two data bytes. If a program wants to send the same message again it can leave off the status byte and just send the data. By default Steem doesn't allow this and adds the status byte itself if it has been omitted, but this could cause problems to programs that require a very high transfer rate. These options mean that running status will be passed on to Windows which has to decide what to do with it, so if you are having problems with MIDI tempo you can try this.

.System Exclusive Buffers
The number of system exclusive buffers affect MIDI when it is sending/receiving many small system exclusive messages quickly. If the number of buffers is too small it is possible for there to be so little time between messages that Steem is still busy with all the buffers when a new sysex message arrives (and therefore part of it gets lost). If you find some MIDI program having input or output problems that sound like this it's worth a try increasing the number of buffers, something like 6 should do the job for almost anything. The size of the buffers allows you to choose the maximum length of message Steem can send or receive. This is important if you are transferring large memory banks from the device to the ST and vice-versa.


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Post by squatch » Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:51 am

Sburkart wrote:
squatch wrote:I'm taking my K5000s out for a jam on Saturday, should be fun!
Be careful with the output jacks, both my K5000s suffered damage on Saturday night jams!:cry: 90 degree plugs can be your friends.
Thanks for the tip. I'd didn't get much use at the jam, but I'm sure it confused the other keys player

I think he was looking for a patch for 'The Final Countdown' lol

Now I need to grab the manual to see if the K5000 recognizes poly aftertouch
Cool if it does 'cos I just scored an old Ensoniq EPS for free

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Post by plord » Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:25 pm

The K5000 should go down as a digital classic. Few things sound like it, and sweet jesus that keyboard was sliiiiiiiiiiiiiick.

I had an S, sold it to get some Wiard. Then I had an R...and I sold it to get some Wiard.

Sometimes priorities suck.

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Post by iSapien1956672 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:12 am

plord wrote:The K5000 should go down as a digital classic. Few things sound like it, and sweet jesus that keyboard was sliiiiiiiiiiiiiick.
I agree, the S and W were my main synths in all my work, used the S as my stage synth for 5 years when I was in an Industrial group.
I will never sell them.

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Post by joey » Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:53 am

maybe the K5000 threads should be merged!

this track I just released is mostly k5000 (except for one droney filter thing and the drums of course). main bass and all pads:

http://www.electronicbeats.net/the-feed ... e-freedom/

edit and here it is while I was making it:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BYftWHHHsGK ... h_response

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Post by sutekina bipu-on » Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:02 pm

the k5000 is perfect, so is the k5, and the k1 = all the best kawais

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