Classic software lost to the ether of new computing

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Classic software lost to the ether of new computing

Post by joey » Mon May 06, 2019 5:44 am

Hey everyone!

Picked up a Nord G1 recently and have been enjoying the editor on my current computer. It's not without it's flaws though as the editor crashes sometimes.

Lately, the thought has come up to buy an old PC or Mac and run the editor there as well as some other stuff.

so,

What cool software runs on old machines that simply isn't available anymore?

things that come to mind -

Sound Diver
Turbosynth


i heard of something called th0nk too

what do you guys miss? really curious, and also curious where I would find some of this software once I get an old machine

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Post by Rex Coil 7 » Mon May 06, 2019 6:15 am

... The Nord Modular editor runs on Windows up to and including Win version 10.

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Post by joey » Mon May 06, 2019 6:49 am

Rex Coil 7 wrote:... The Nord Modular editor runs on Windows up to and including Win version 10.

:tu:
cool but this isn't about the G1, this is about other software. the g1 is what sparked this idea. would be nice if you actually read my post, you smug bastard :hyper:

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Post by CF3 » Mon May 06, 2019 12:52 pm

Most definitely SoundDiver.

In fact, I’ve got an old G5 tower running it in the studio right now. Took me FOREVER to find a XSKey dongle so I could run it the right way without an authorizer emulator.

It’s a must have piece of software if you have certain older synths like a Waldorf Microwave XT(k) or a Fizmo. Amazing user wavetable tools.

There are plenty of cool standalone editors out there now. Even really nice ones for the ipad, but nothing still comes close to SoundDiver as far as a complete package.

I’ve had hit-or-miss results running older stuff with Wine/Winebottler also.

My next mission is to get an Apple G3 Wallstreet laptop so I can run a copy Passport Alchemy 3 (of which I have a floppy disk copy) on OS9. Amazing software if you have vintage samplers, and the last Apple laptop with both a RS422 port and SCSI. :nana:


BTW...

Check here for mac software if needed:

https://www.macintoshrepository.org

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php

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Post by seychmar » Mon May 06, 2019 12:58 pm

My absolute favourites which I still use from time to time:

Digidesign Turbosynth
Digidesign Softsynth
Passport Alchemy
Steinberg Avalon (Atari st)
Copson Data Zero-X (Atari ST)

And the absolute gem: Dr T KCS with Programmable Variations Generator and Tunesmith (Atari ST) - no modern equivalent anywhere near what these can do with MIDI.

Software I am still looking for (used in the past but now impossible to find anywhere):

Antares Infinity
Copson Data Seamless Looper

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Post by Chopper » Mon May 06, 2019 8:35 pm

seychmar wrote: ...Antares Infinity..
:waah: :hail:

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Post by alexander92 » Tue May 07, 2019 4:33 pm

I use zero-x seamless looper, great program @seychmar sent you a pm

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Post by jbuonacc » Tue May 07, 2019 5:03 pm

seychmar wrote:Steinberg Avalon (Atari st)
never did get much accomplished with it, but that really was pretty amazing software, especially for the time.

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Post by sizone » Tue May 07, 2019 5:08 pm

sounddiver actually runs just fine on my windows 7 machine.

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Post by morgulbee » Tue May 07, 2019 5:25 pm

My favorites from the really old days:

Dr. T's KCS
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Post by francoprussian » Tue May 07, 2019 5:57 pm

cool edit pro

still pisses all over most modern audio editors

and it had that hidden pong game

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Post by chvad » Tue May 07, 2019 6:38 pm

francoprussian wrote:cool edit pro

still pisses all over most modern audio editors

and it had that hidden pong game
i mean... that's just Audition now.

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Post by shabbyroad » Tue May 07, 2019 6:59 pm

Opcode Studio Vision Pro

Really miss that. I finally accepted about 5 years ago that it was time to throw out the discs and manuals.

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Post by filtermod » Tue May 07, 2019 7:25 pm

shabbyroad wrote:Opcode Studio Vision Pro

Really miss that. I finally accepted about 5 years ago that it was time to throw out the discs and manuals.
Same here, except I just got rid of them a week ago when I started overhauling my home studio. Lol. Damn Gibson bought & killed Opcode like they did to Oberheim. :mad:
I also miss Sound Diver (try editing a k5000 without it :zombie:)
Turbosynth
Thonk was great for somewhat unpredictable time/pitch granular type stuff
Zvocoder was another fun one.
There were some awesome spectral audiosuite file based plug ins for OS9, but I can't remember what they were called.

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Post by Moon Indigo » Tue May 07, 2019 9:48 pm

Cakewalk for DOS version 2.0.

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Post by subbasshead » Tue May 07, 2019 11:35 pm

Studio Vision Pro was so great!!
ProDeck, ProEdit and ProTools v1.0 not so much...

anyone remember Arboretum Hyperprism?
You could perform/control parameters in two dimensions, a bit like how GRM Tools does now.... it never made it to OSX...

mmm Turbosynth
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Post by Monotremata » Wed May 08, 2019 2:02 am

Virtual machines have finally taken care of that for me. Minus all the one off plugins that have disappeared along the way (I still open old Logic projects from time to time that ask me for Absynth 2-4 hah), Im also one of the Sound Diver and Nord G1 folks.

The Winebottled Nord Editor doesn't work for me. I can do everything possible, except download my banks from the Modular to the Mac. The widely available one, as well as the one I bottled myself, both freeze up about 1/2 way through the first bank. Under WinXP in Virtual Box, the Mac passes through my old Emagic AMT8 and it works perfectly. Same with Sound Diver. I just have to use an iso copy of Sound Diver I had to download to authorize it when it needs too. The retail cd for whatever reason won't mount the Windows part of the disc (its the old 'hybrid' cd-rom), so when you let the virtual machine mount it, it ONLY has the Mac side available and it won't authorize for some reason. I managed to find an actual 1:1 iso copy and just tell VirtualBox to use the iso file in its virtual cd drive and bam, SD is working again!

I still have a G3, 2 G4s, a G5, and even the first Mac Pro (and an old P3) along with this one, but the thought of having to set one of those up (and try to remember how to configure OMS) is not a happy one. Have to stick with WinXP too, eMagic's last drivers for the AMT/Unitor are technically Win2000/NT/98 drivers, and won't work in anything past Win7 (and only the 32bit version).

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Post by Riggar » Wed May 08, 2019 2:44 am

Referring to the OP - as an option to getting a complete other computer (at least initially). You can get a sata power switcher. I have 3 disks (win10, Win7 and XP) hooked up to the switcher, select which to power on and go. You might have some issues (sound?) but might be worth a shot for reasonable cost.

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Post by francoprussian » Wed May 08, 2019 3:20 pm

chvad wrote: i mean... that's just Audition now.
wrong.

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Post by astrodislocate » Wed May 08, 2019 5:17 pm

Too young to have ever used it myself, but I hear a lot of great things about the original Sound Hack software

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Post by filtermod » Wed May 08, 2019 7:21 pm

astrodislocate wrote:Too young to have ever used it myself, but I hear a lot of great things about the original Sound Hack software
Soudhack was great.

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Post by Chopper » Wed May 08, 2019 7:21 pm

I still use the old cubase on an Atari emulator sometimes. Best thing ever for MIDI.
Also, and not strictly software, i miss Samplecell....

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Post by Monotremata » Wed May 08, 2019 11:17 pm

Almost forgot, another Emagic casualty, Waveburner!!!!!
That thing was the best for mastering and putting together a final cd master.
Now that Peak is dead what the hell else is there?

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Post by bhinton » Thu May 09, 2019 12:22 am

Did Metro die or does it still exist?
Yes, Hyperprism! And the same company did an attempt at a "trackless" DAW if I recall correctly...

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