Recording Modular Music: How do you do it?

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Recording Modular Music: How do you do it?

Post by spew_boi » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:32 am

What's everyones process of recording modular music?

What DAW, post processing, automation, plugins, interfaces do we use for the best result of music thats a single stereo instrument?
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Post by snadge » Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:52 am

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Post by mritenburg » Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:53 am

I use Presonus Studio One Pro 4.5.

For strictly modular compositions, I record multiple linear tracks of my modular playing self-running patches. I then cut and edit those raw tracks into a composition using volume automation mostly to bring parts in and out of the mix.

I tend not to use any sync because this produces a more organic sounding track. Though I use MIDI-CV if I am integrating my modular with other instruments and tracks that are aligned to track timing.

Sometimes I do almost no post-processing to the tracks, and other times I might do heavy post-processing.

I usually use an SSL-type bus compressor on my main output and add just a hint of room reverb to the entire mix so it all sounds like it is occurring in the same acoustic space.

Here are a couple of examples of my methods. The first track has no-post-processing of the tracks except for volume automation. The second track has heavy post-processing:

http://soundcloud.com/labelleaurore/m-canique-quantique

http://soundcloud.com/labelleaurore/zipped-up-along

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Post by Funky40 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:58 pm

mritenburg wrote: Here are a couple of examples of my methods.
Great feedback ! very welcome !
need to give it later a listen though.


i *totally* struggle myself.
I used my MPC1K over many years to record anything. mostly modular.
plus cutting samples in there.
Though the audio quality, depending on the frequenzys, is to question.

today i record into wavelab on my mac mini. stereo.
thats it.......
.....can´t gel with working then further in the DAW...... :waah:

while any other type of technologie feels to restricted.......or the handling to outdated.
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Post by Cybananna » Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:18 pm

Output of modular to a mixer. A touch of reverb then to Digital Performer. No other processing or editing other that trim the beginning and end of the track. I like to record live and not mess with it. Works for me.

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Post by spilthyfred » Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:13 pm

I have the WMD Performance Mixer with the DB25 expander. I take all my audio out through two DB25 cable snakes and straight into my audio interface to record in Ableton. I also keep my modular clocked from Ableton via the Expert Sleepers ES-3 so that everything remains in sync. Works like a charm.

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Post by artieTwelve » Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:26 pm

My Rack -> ES-8 -> Bitwig
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VCVRack -> ES-8 -> Bitwig

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Post by blw » Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:43 pm

Great 'example' tracks, mritenburg! Enjoyed those.

I definitely don't treat the modular as a 'single stereo instrument,' particularly as I have a couple of decently large systems in different formats as well as other synths to draw from and patch between. I will record a live stereo mix, and sometimes that vibe wins, but I also pull out as many individual tracks as I can for mixing and processing in Logic. Volume and pan automation and processing with Logic plug-ins. I also have a couple of Joemeek compressor/eq's that I use either to mangle individual tracks before recording or sometimes for light processing of a stereo mix to make it feel more cohesive, since I don't have any cool outboard gear for this purpose.

Mainly all the tools I use are stock Logic products.

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Post by a100user » Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:55 pm

Modular to QU24 to Logic Pro
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Post by commodorejohn » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:29 pm

Audacity, WinJammer Pro, and an M-Audio Audiophile 2496 sound card. One track at a time...
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Post by Darfiss » Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:54 am

I usually dont record.

I use my Neutron for installations and have it running during the whole exhibition, randomly modulating itself with the Sample and Hold ...

But sometimes when i ''find'' an interesting sound, i directly plug it in my AU and record and cut using FL Studio.

When i feel fancy i use a BEQ700 Equalizer in the signalpath.

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Post by EATyourGUITAR » Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:01 am

you can use any DAW. I think maybe there is a lot more to talk about if you want to get into the details. what do we use to mix and master a modular live performance? answer: protools. what do I use to chop up audio and build sample packs? any DAW. what do I use to build loops and arrange songs? answer: ableton.
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Post by smithjohn » Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:13 pm

Usually 1-4 voices to separate inputs on my Behringer interface into Reaper. Most of my go to plugins are Variety of Sound, sadly Windows and 32bit only.

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Post by fac » Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:42 pm

It depends. When it comes to modular jams, I often mix everything to stereo and record either to a DAW (currently iMac with Studio One Artist) or to a hardware recorded (Tascam DP-24 or Zoom R24). Sometimes I'm not so lazy and record to multiple tracks, and then perform some rudimentary mixing on the DAW/recorder.

Other times, I record one track at a time, often incorporating other instruments. Most of my music is sequencer-based so I usually have to sync the modular to the DAW/recorder. In these cases, I use my FutureRetro Mobius to provide an analog clock from the MIDI clock that comes from the DAW or the DP-24.

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