The Mangle - New Granular Synth

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The Mangle - New Granular Synth

Post by polyslax » Thu Dec 05, 2013 5:39 pm

Couldn't find mention of this here, pretty impressed with the intro video, purchase imminent, methinks. :love:

http://sound-guru.com/software/mangle/

Beta version available for £20

Mac only atm, but Win coming soon apparently.
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Post by Johnisfaster » Thu Dec 05, 2013 6:18 pm

I emailed to ask him, the discounted beta rate will still be available when the windows version is available.

It looks fun for sure. Has a very fabfilter look to me.
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Post by Soy Sos » Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:15 pm

I use M4L Granulator, but I'll keep an eye on this.
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Post by richard » Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:22 pm

thanks, looks very interesting, I'll buy this for sure
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Post by ignatius » Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:26 pm

there's a KVR thread of course. developer chimes in. probably good place to post your windows wants.

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... sc&start=0

i watched the video a handful of times the other day.. didn't think i needed another granular thing but apparently i did :mrgreen:

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Post by budz » Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:30 pm

Well shit, I couldn't resist buying this and it's a lot of fun. Really nicely done interface and sounds decent. Seems stable so far as VST on OSX 10.7.

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Post by renasent » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:22 pm

It looks really good. Its got a really nice interface and has features that set it apart from others. Love the drag and drop modulation, plus the constrain to key feature on the pitching of the grains.

It has got a kind of fabfilter look, and that's a good thing. There is so much to like about this synth, its even got resizable gui. :yay:

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Post by polyslax » Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:35 am

No issues yet on a non-retina i7 MBP running 10.7.5.

Creating some lovely textures, soundscapes and abstract beats. :)
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Post by jtai » Sat Dec 07, 2013 12:54 pm

Nice work! Guess I'll have to look into upgrading my Snow Leopard DAW.

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Post by ben_hex » Sat Dec 07, 2013 1:20 pm

Snow leopard for me too. I'll email and ask about using snow leopard and report any info here.
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Post by a100user » Sat Dec 07, 2013 1:27 pm

Snow leopard here too.

Looks and sounds good
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Post by CF3 » Sat Dec 07, 2013 1:31 pm

ben_hex wrote:Snow leopard for me too. I'll email and ask about using snow leopard and report any info here.
please do. Snow Leopard here too. I would have already bought and downloaded it if it wasn't for that.
This looks very well thought out and easy to use. Currently using Granulator II in M4L/Ableton but I want to have a go at this. Big thanks for posting it BTW.

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Post by ignatius » Sat Dec 07, 2013 1:41 pm

ben_hex wrote:Snow leopard for me too. I'll email and ask about using snow leopard and report any info here.
from the KVR thread linked above:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... c&start=15

10.6 support is my biggest regret about the design process. When I began developing The Mangle, I was very naive, and I used the latest programming language features (known as C++11). I didn't realise, however, that Apple never built those libraries into 10.6. The code is now shot through with C++11, making it quite hard to undo. I've done lots of research into ways to get C++11 stuff working on 10.6, but it looks pretty bleak unfortunately.

I could kick myself for this, because I agree like many that 10.6 was the best OS X yet. I think 10.8 is pretty good too, but some say it doesn't play nicely with Logic 9. Is that true?

On the other hand, using C++11 has enabled me to write faster, smaller code, in less time, which has been an enormous help.

There's one small consolation - I have now managed to configure the builds to run on 10.7 Lion (which does include C++11), so that opens it up to a few more people, but 10.6 support looks unlikely at this stage unfortunately.

Curse you, backward compatibility! *Shakes fist at God*
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Post by alesauskas » Sat Dec 07, 2013 1:44 pm

Damn, I have been resisting up(down?) grading from Snow Leopard for a long time, but the list of things is slowly growing that I am being excluded from... The biggest of which so far is the Leap Motion!

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Post by ignatius » Sat Dec 07, 2013 1:54 pm

alesauskas wrote:Damn, I have been resisting up(down?) grading from Snow Leopard for a long time, but the list of things is slowly growing that I am being excluded from... The biggest of which so far is the Leap Motion!
fwiw 10.8.5 is pretty ok. works well and only requires turning off a couple stupid things like the notification center and gatekeeper.

you dont have to go for mavericks if you dont want to. you can get install of other versions of OS X from apple. but it's not a DVD it's this:

"What do you receive: An email with a content code for the Mac App Store."

http://store.apple.com/us/product/D6377 ... ntain-lion

and the other versions are still available as well

http://store.apple.com/us/help/download ... are#MacOSX

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Post by didahdrieghe » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:27 pm

Why does everyone refuse to upgrade to Mavericks? Genuinely curious.

Hmm looks like a very interesting softsynth, probably gonna buy it one of these days.

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Post by CF3 » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:39 pm

There are known problems with audio drivers and Mavericks.

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Post by ignatius » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:56 pm

didahdrieghe wrote:Why does everyone refuse to upgrade to Mavericks? Genuinely curious.

Hmm looks like a very interesting softsynth, probably gonna buy it one of these days.
w/mavericks external drives seem to mysteriously lose data. it's well documented.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-57 ... tallation/

future versions of OS X are just kind of a dark cloud for me. running 10.8 is fine. as far as i want to go really. future versions are likely to be geared towards sandboxing apps and security over all else.. as will logicX. (even though the cloud is kind of a joke as security goes)

so i'm kind of down on apple until all this shakes out and facts are known.

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Post by secretkillerofnames » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:59 am

ignatius wrote: w/mavericks external drives seem to mysteriously lose data. it's well documented.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-57 ... tallation/
That's a strange one. I've had mostly good times with Mavericks - use external drives all the time. I'm not sure why you would use a 3rd party drive manager though and the article suggests this is the problem. For me it runs noticeably faster and cleaner on both my main Macs and I have a Snow Leopard macbook for the old stuff.

I've had issues with some plugins in Logic X and a few of my apps no longer working but none of them indispensable. It is always a good idea to be cautious and stick with a working OS though if you are already satisfied.

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Post by ben_hex » Sun Dec 08, 2013 7:57 am

Had the response as mentioned above over email too, design decision early on that can't be reversed engineered, may not even be possible at all however long is spent on it.

So that's me out, I'm upgrading for it.
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Post by budz » Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:05 pm

I can totally understand not wanting to upgrade from 10.6.8 - it's a really nice version of OSX. FWIW, if anyone is on the fence - I decided to install 10.7.5 recently as I noticed more and more software was demanding it, and it's not much different in use to 10.6 and everything I cared about enough to install again works fine.

Back on topic re: this synth - the developer released a new version with some important fixes. He seems really responsive and has indicated that updated versions will be available quite often during the beta period :tu:

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Post by Soy Sos » Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:20 pm

Really wanting to try this one, but I am literally stuck at 10.6.8 with both of my computers. Too bad. BTW can file play position be mapped to keys and pitch to keys disabled?
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Post by phase ghost » Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:33 pm

Whoa, looks interesting. Can anyone compare this to Granite?

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Post by xzyt_now » Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:23 pm

I can't wait for the Windows version
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Post by comaduster » Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:40 am

Love this.
I'm really glad to see more developers going towards GUI based modulation systems. I'm pretty sick of dealing with mod-matrixes in little screens inside these soft synths/tools. We have these massive displays where we can visualize modulation on the damn synths themselves, and get immediate feedback about what's happening. It seems silly to stick with a system that was originally designed to access an array of information on a small screen with data entry dials.

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