Apple Logic 10.5.0 Update breaks ES plugins

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Apple Logic 10.5.0 Update breaks ES plugins

Post by cliffman » Wed May 13, 2020 10:27 pm

Don't be a dummy like, me....sigh.
Upgraded Logic Pro to 10.5.0 on Catalina. Any attempt to use Expert Sleepers v2.8.0 plugins with this version crashes Logic instantly. Even loading the plugin triggers a crash. Apparently Apple have changed things with plugins again, and third-party vendors now all have to update their plugins somehow.
Thanks Apple.
I confirmed this with Apple Support. Hopefully a fix won't be too difficult.

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Re: Apple Logic 10.5.0 Update breaks ES plugins

Post by os » Thu May 14, 2020 2:59 am

First I've heard of it. Does it say anywhere what we have to do?


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Re: Apple Logic 10.5.0 Update breaks ES plugins

Post by cliffman » Thu May 14, 2020 10:04 am

I will ASAP

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Re: Apple Logic 10.5.0 Update breaks ES plugins

Post by zengomi » Thu May 14, 2020 11:59 am

UAD posted a workaround that works with its plugins. Might be worth trying.

Workaround
1. Boot into Recovery Mode by depressing the ⌘ + R keys while restarting your Mac.
2. Choose Utilities > Terminal from the Menu bar (top of screen) on the Recovery screen.
3. Type the following command exactly in the Terminal window:
touch -c /Volumes/<volume_name>/Library/Extensions
(Be sure to replace <volume_name> with your System drive name)

Note: Spaces within the volume name must be preceded with "\ ". For example, with default macOS installations, the System drive is named "Macintosh HD" so in this case, you'll type the following command in Terminal:
touch -c /Volumes/Macintosh\ HD/Library/Extensions
4. Press Return.
5. Restart your Mac via the Restart option under the Apple Menu (top left of screen).
After restarting, your UAD plug-ins should operate normally. 

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Re: Apple Logic 10.5.0 Update breaks ES plugins

Post by a100user » Thu May 14, 2020 1:55 pm

Logic 10.5 also kills NI Massive too so will have to try the workaround posted above.

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Re: Apple Logic 10.5.0 Update breaks ES plugins

Post by cliffman » Thu May 14, 2020 6:41 pm

Sigh, neither the new SW bits nor the UAD fix works for me. I start a new project, add one track, add one SW plugin - instant crash. I really, really am starting to dislike Apple.

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Re: Apple Logic 10.5.0 Update breaks ES plugins

Post by cliffman » Fri May 15, 2020 11:26 am

os wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 8:12 am
Would someone like to try this version?

https://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/downl ... _2_8_1.zip
Tried it, same crash. Sorry.

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Re: Apple Logic 10.5.0 Update breaks ES plugins

Post by jones » Fri May 15, 2020 11:33 am

REALLY getting sick of Apple.

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Re: Apple Logic 10.5.0 Update breaks ES plugins

Post by zengomi » Fri May 15, 2020 3:10 pm

I tried 2_8_1 in the latest version of Logic. Crash.

UAD Luna, on the other hand, did not, but only a handful of the Silent Way plugins appear.


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Re: Apple Logic 10.5.0 Update breaks ES plugins

Post by Dark Barn » Tue May 19, 2020 12:15 pm

os wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 8:43 am
This works for me on Logic 10.5/Catalina:
https://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/downl ... _2_8_2.zip
I'm new to Silent Way, using a demo version to test, but I can only load Silent Way plug-ins as an Audio FX using Logic 10.5/Catalina. Loading on a software instrument causes a fail to load prompt.

Edit: never mind, I can load them as stereo tracks, just not as multi-output, since I'm new to Silent Way going off the YouTube installation tutorial I had thought we are supposed to select the multi-output option. Is that correct?

Edit 2: other multi-output plug-ins apparently also broken in 10.5.
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Re: Apple Logic 10.5.0 Update breaks ES plugins

Post by os » Tue May 19, 2020 12:57 pm

Logic 10.5 seems to not work with many multi-output plug-ins (not just Silent Way). With any luck Apple will fix this soon.


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Re: Apple Logic 10.5.0 Update breaks ES plugins

Post by ignatius » Wed May 20, 2020 4:22 pm

does this affect people using 10.14.6 Mojave? i haven't had any trouble w/ES plug ins so far. haven't investigated silent way in logic lately though.

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Re: Apple Logic 10.5.0 Update breaks ES plugins

Post by cliffman » Wed May 20, 2020 6:58 pm

os wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 10:08 am
Updates: https://expert-sleepers.co.uk/downloads.html
2.8.3 works fine for me with Logic. Thanks again, Oz!!

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Re: Apple Logic 10.5.0 Update breaks ES plugins

Post by Dark Barn » Wed May 20, 2020 7:10 pm

cliffman wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 6:58 pm
os wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 10:08 am
Updates: https://expert-sleepers.co.uk/downloads.html
2.8.3 works fine for me with Logic. Thanks again, Oz!!
As a multi-output instrument in Logic 10.5?
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Re: Apple Logic 10.5.0 Update breaks ES plugins

Post by os » Thu May 21, 2020 2:24 am

Multi-output instruments in Logic 10.5 seem to be broken in general. I think this is Apple's issue to fix. Have you reported it to them?

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Re: Apple Logic 10.5.0 Update breaks ES plugins

Post by Dark Barn » Thu May 21, 2020 9:49 am

Yeah I did, just checking since cliffman reported working fine that I shouldn’t try reinstalling. Thanks again.

Edit: if anyone else wants to report https://www.apple.com/feedback/logic-pro.html
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Re: Apple Logic 10.5.0 Update breaks ES plugins

Post by Cheekypete » Tue May 26, 2020 8:19 am

Has anybody got the SW voice controller working in 10.5?
Yesterday I could work using SW 2.8.0. Today I "Updated" to 2.8.3 and now the voice controller doesn't work at all, rendering my system useless for working with my modular.

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Re: Apple Logic 10.5.0 Update breaks ES plugins

Post by zengomi » Tue May 26, 2020 4:14 pm

Cheekypete wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 8:19 am
Has anybody got the SW voice controller working in 10.5?
Yesterday I could work using SW 2.8.0. Today I "Updated" to 2.8.3 and now the voice controller doesn't work at all, rendering my system useless for working with my modular.
I don't even see the SW voice controller. Demo limitation?

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Re: Apple Logic 10.5.0 Update breaks ES plugins

Post by os » Wed May 27, 2020 1:54 am

No, all the plug-ins are in the demo.

Check the Logic plug-in manager if anything appears missing.

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Re: Apple Logic 10.5.0 Update breaks ES plugins

Post by zengomi » Wed May 27, 2020 6:12 am

Thanks for confirming that, Os. I found it.

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Re: Apple Logic 10.5.0 Update breaks ES plugins

Post by Bath House » Thu May 28, 2020 7:25 pm

Just running into this with USAMO - instant death, and of course I have a deadline. I messed around with the new logic for the past week and was impressed at how solid it was too.
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Re: Apple Logic 10.5.0 Update breaks ES plugins

Post by os » Fri May 29, 2020 2:54 am

I released an update that should work. What problem are you having?

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