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Post by Juanjocov » Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:00 pm

I bought some "floating ring" cables from Control and I just realized from the pictures that they are 1/4 TRS to 1/8 TRS.
Aren't they supposed to be 1/4 TRS to 1/8 TS??
Is this going to be a problem??

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Post by Matos » Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:07 pm

It's fine. It's still floating and will act the same.

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Post by os » Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:43 am

Not necessarily fine. A 3.5mm TRS jack has the ring in the place where a mono socket will expect the shield to be. So if you have a floating ring TRS 3.5mm plug you may end up with no shield-to-shield connection either.
Hey os, could you give a new ETA?
I'm told to expect them next week now.

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Post by Gogoolpex » Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:43 pm

I want to solder my own, but just to get started I want to order some cabels along with a motu ultralite.

so are those ok?
http://www.gear4music.com/Recording-and ... ert-3m/52X

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Post by os » Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:13 pm

Yes, but did you notice Expert Sleepers sell suitable cables now?

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Post by Gogoolpex » Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:35 pm

yes, but I want to get everything from one distributer. I will only use the plug-in at the beginning.

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Post by Hedefar » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:57 am

Hey guys.

I have a mono cable with 3.5mm jack in each end. Can I use it with a stereo TRS 1/4 adapter on one end to connect it to an output on my MOTU? This should work as "floating ring", right?

Just checking to be sure. I just bought a used 828mk3 to start using Silent Way but I would like to try it out with the cable I have, before I get other cables.

Thanks in advance for any replies!

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Post by os » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:06 am

No, that doesn't give you a floating ring.

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Post by Hedefar » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:17 am

os wrote:No, that doesn't give you a floating ring.
Okay. Thank you for the quick response.

1/4 TS --> 1/8 TRS would not work, correct?
The only way to go is 1/4 TRS --> 1/8 TS, right?

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Post by os » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:20 am

Yup.

All that said, your stereo adaptor will work fine and let you test out Silent Way. It's just not recommended to use non-floating ring cables, for the health of your MOTU.

As far as I know, no-one has yet damaged a MOTU by using the wrong cables. But I can't recommend using the wrong cables, because I don't want anyone blaming me if they happen to be the first person who does manage to damage it somehow.

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Post by Hedefar » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:27 am

os wrote:Yup.

All that said, your stereo adaptor will work fine and let you test out Silent Way. It's just not recommended to use non-floating ring cables, for the health of your MOTU.

As far as I know, no-one has yet damaged a MOTU by using the wrong cables. But I can't recommend using the wrong cables, because I don't want anyone blaming me if they happen to be the first person who does manage to damage it somehow.
Okay.
Thanks for the info!

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Post by Hemmerlinj » Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:01 am

So I made some of my own cables and just wanted to check that I did it correctly.

I used TRS 1/4 and TRS 1/8 (only because that's what I could get at the moment)

I connected Tip to Tip

Sleeve to sleeve, and on the the 1/8 end I also connected the ring to sleeve as well. Thinking that since the jack might expect a mono plug anf possibly not make a connection with the sleeve so the ring would also be there for the connection.

I left the ring on the 1/4 side unconnected. This should work right?

I haven't tried them yet.

CHeers.

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Post by os » Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:03 am

That all sounds fine.

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Post by Alfonso Guerrero » Wed May 29, 2013 6:13 am

Hello, first post here.

I have a couple of questions:

What about using TS to TS cables? Would I still be risking my MOTU Ultralite MK3?

In case I still need to build my cables:

Should I leave the ring connected on the TRS end and disconnected on the TS end?

Thank you.

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Post by os » Wed May 29, 2013 6:23 am

What about using TS to TS cables? Would I still be risking my MOTU Ultralite MK3?
Yes, because the plug shield shorts the ring of the socket.
Should I leave the ring connected on the TRS end and disconnected on the TS end?
Doesn't matter.

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Post by Alfonso Guerrero » Wed May 29, 2013 9:26 pm

Thank you!
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Post by Alfonso Guerrero » Wed May 29, 2013 9:29 pm

os wrote:
What about using TS to TS cables? Would I still be risking my MOTU Ultralite MK3?
Yes, because the plug shield shorts the ring of the socket.
Should I leave the ring connected on the TRS end and disconnected on the TS end?
Doesn't matter.
OK.

So I could leave the TRS ring connection without a wire soldered to it and there wouldn't be a problem?

Let's say:

TRS - TS

Tip - Tip
Shield - Shield
Ring - Without a wire soldered at all

Would that be fine?

Thank you again!

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Post by os » Thu May 30, 2013 2:32 am

That would be fine.

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Post by Alfonso Guerrero » Thu May 30, 2013 4:26 am

os wrote:That would be fine.
Thank you so much!

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Post by Tomazzzi » Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:16 pm

Hi,

I just bought the Neutrik NYS-SSR-8 from ebay to connect my eurorack to silent way.

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Now i need to buy the adaptors but something isn't clear.

Will those work ?

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And i need 16 right ?
8 for cv and 8 for inverted cv ?
And then 8 standards jacks from the Neutrik to the Motu 828mk2 outputs ?

No risk of damage with this configuration ?

Thanks for your answers !

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Post by os » Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:14 pm

You really want mono 3.5mm - 1/4" adaptors. Better yet, buy some actual 3.5mm - 1/4" cables.

And stereo (TRS) jack leads to/from the MOTU.

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Post by Tomazzzi » Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:32 pm

Thanks a lot for your answer :)

So 16 X mono 3.5 to mono 6.35 adaptors

And 8 stereo to sterero 6.35 jacks.

Thx again !

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Post by dare » Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:05 pm

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Hi guys, I usually use my ES-3 but I'm on the road at the moment and wondering about this configuration. I'm thinking that there's no ring in this but it's hard to tell what's going on inside the big connector. Any thoughts?

Sorry if this photo is massive..

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Post by os » Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:39 am

Depends if the splitter is a stereo-to-mono splitter or a 'headphone splitter' (which would be stereo-to-2xstereo).

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