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Post by Luka » Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:31 am

i have a half built one :/

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Post by Muff Wiggler » Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:58 am

ooh sorry for the late reply, getting crazy over here with 'any moment a baby arrives'

yep, i have one.... hopefully soon i can record it for you

super, super, super cool module.... although I haven't really used quadrature functions at audio rates it IS a modulation monster

easily one of my very favorite modules. right up there at the top

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Post by eyehue » Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:40 pm

i have a DIY Mankato, totally love it. but i don't really use it for sine waves (yet). what i do love about it are the shitload of outputs and phasing options, not to mention three attenuated fm inputs. i guess i've done a little experimentation with it as an oscillator by feeding it back into itself and making it cry, haha. i should try more of that method, inspired by a little essay Grant Richter wrote on the Wiard list not too long ago about trying to treat every module as its own little noise box (a la lunetta or atari punk console) and see what you come up with for new ideas of patching.

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Post by elemental » Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:42 pm

Thanks... I'm really into using sines these days, either as audio rate modulation sources or starting points for distortion/wave shaping. I'm currently using an Analogue Systems A-110 as my dedicated clean sine osc. Thing is its quite hard to tune! I also have an AFG on the way which I hear has a good clean sine...
I'm also interested in the multiphase modulation possibilities, and all the filter outputs.

And somehow my interest in the Zeroscillator has been sparked again.... damn the interweb and my geeky surfing habits!!

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Post by parasitk » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:29 pm

I'd love to hear some more clips of this being used as a quadrature sine oscillator... Anyone?

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Post by lotus-eater » Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:19 am

Now that you lucky Mankato owners have had some time to get familiar with this thing, would anyone care to put up some demos? I'd really like to hear some examples of the quadrature oscillators being used for frequency shifting. That expander module (to fill in the functions necessary for FS) would really make this a must-own module for me.

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Post by apemandan » Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:51 am

I'd love to hear some too, especially any freq shifting and shepard tones! I have bought the PCB and have just ordered the parts.. In at the DIY deep end!! :eek:

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Post by suitandtieguy » Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:33 pm

are there any Mank owners with 2 ring modulators and a Blacet mixer/processor?

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Post by parasitk » Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:05 pm

Quadrature sine oscillator? FM? Anyone? Please?

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Post by fluxmonkey » Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:09 pm

suitandtieguy wrote:are there any Mank owners with 2 ring modulators and a Blacet mixer/processor?
yes. whatchu got in mind?

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Post by wetterberg » Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:32 pm

fluxmonkey wrote:
suitandtieguy wrote:are there any Mank owners with 2 ring modulators and a Blacet mixer/processor?
yes. whatchu got in mind?
Patching a frequency shifter?

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Post by Kwote » Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:18 pm

lotus-eater wrote:Now that you lucky Mankato owners have had some time to get familiar with this thing, would anyone care to put up some demos?
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Post by Muff Wiggler » Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:44 pm

you can really 'hear' the mutiple sines of the Mankato used as a modulation source (of the AFG) in the recording i posted here

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Post by Muff Wiggler » Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:45 pm

suitandtieguy wrote:are there any Mank owners with 2 ring modulators and a Blacet mixer/processor?
yes, but they are not the same ringmods (a Klang Werk and a CGS RealRing)

wanna give me a cool patch to try out?

if the RMs need to be identical, I have a second CGS RR board I could probably add the requisite jacks and panel to pretty fast

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Post by Roycie Roller » Sat Nov 01, 2008 7:16 pm

Muff Wiggler wrote:you can really 'hear' the mutiple sines of the Mankato used as a modulation source (of the AFG) in the recording i posted here
That's an awesome track! :tinfoil:

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Post by Muff Wiggler » Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:56 pm

well thank-you :oops:

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Post by chimologic » Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:44 pm

ok so when does it come out in eurorack

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Post by parasitk » Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:53 pm

Kwote wrote:
lotus-eater wrote:Now that you lucky Mankato owners have had some time to get familiar with this thing, would anyone care to put up some demos?

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Post by wetterberg » Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:59 pm

fluxmonkey wrote:
suitandtieguy wrote:are there any Mank owners with 2 ring modulators and a Blacet mixer/processor?
yes. whatchu got in mind?

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Post by suitandtieguy » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:48 am

parasitk wrote:
Kwote wrote:
lotus-eater wrote:Now that you lucky Mankato owners have had some time to get familiar with this thing, would anyone care to put up some demos?
i've probably posted this in numerous places, but here's a track i did which has the Mank on every track:

http://share.ovi.com/media/suitandtiegu ... eguy.10003

kick drum is the 6 db/oct output in full resonance, and the filter is used as a mixer on the hihat track, and as a filter on all the other tracks.
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suitandtieguy wrote:are there any Mank owners with 2 ring modulators and a Blacet mixer/processor?
yes. whatchu got in mind?
i believe if you take, say the 12 dB/oct output and the 24 dB/oct output in full regeneration and feed them into two ring modulators' carrier inputs, and a source material of some kind into the modulator inputs, then feed the outputs of those two ring modulators into two channels of a Blacet mixer/processor phase-inverted from one another you should be able to construct a frequency shifter. but i could be wrong.

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Post by chimologic » Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:35 am

thats cool but....

when does it come out in EuroRack format?

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Post by apemandan » Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:47 am

suitandtieguy wrote:
wetterberg wrote:
fluxmonkey wrote:
suitandtieguy wrote:are there any Mank owners with 2 ring modulators and a Blacet mixer/processor?
yes. whatchu got in mind?
i believe if you take, say the 12 dB/oct output and the 24 dB/oct output in full regeneration and feed them into two ring modulators' carrier inputs, and a source material of some kind into the modulator inputs, then feed the outputs of those two ring modulators into two channels of a Blacet mixer/processor phase-inverted from one another you should be able to construct a frequency shifter. but i could be wrong.
I'd really like to hear this! I think if you then feed the whole caboodle back on itself via the mixer you should get a sheppard tone! :hyper:

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Post by thermionicjunky » Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:02 am

apemandan wrote:
suitandtieguy wrote:
wetterberg wrote:
fluxmonkey wrote:
suitandtieguy wrote:are there any Mank owners with 2 ring modulators and a Blacet mixer/processor?
yes. whatchu got in mind?
i believe if you take, say the 12 dB/oct output and the 24 dB/oct output in full regeneration and feed them into two ring modulators' carrier inputs, and a source material of some kind into the modulator inputs, then feed the outputs of those two ring modulators into two channels of a Blacet mixer/processor phase-inverted from one another you should be able to construct a frequency shifter. but i could be wrong.
I'd really like to hear this! I think if you then feed the whole caboodle back on itself via the mixer you should get a sheppard tone! :hyper:
I always thought that you'd need a dome filter , in order to obtain a 90 degree phase network. Still, the Mankato gets you part of the way there.

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Post by neandrewthal » Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:25 am

I wonder how hard it would be to make a module that takes any input and has 8 phase shifted outputs.
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Post by Kwote » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:04 pm

CGS has a dome filter pcb available. hmmm..
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