Peter Grenader is still poking at his Wikipedia article

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Peter Grenader is still poking at his Wikipedia article

Post by metasonix » Mon May 19, 2014 8:26 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Grenader

If you examine the history, you will see that virtually all of the recent edits are either by "PlanBGuy", or by an IP address belonging to an AT&T DSL customer in Los Angeles. Which is practically guaranteed to be him. He even created the article originally, in 2007.

He last edited it on 27 April, three weeks ago.

Please note this recent addition, made on Christmas Day 2013:
Design innovations credited by Grenader are the introduction of buffered multiples, the motion sensing dual axis joystick controller, a programmable tap clock and the first manufacture to include variable potentiometer control within a 2cm wide module: the ELF series.
So, did he really invent the buffered mult?

This editing is against Wikipedia policy, of course. Specifically WP:NPOV, WP:COI, and possibly WP:OWN, if he starts fighting with others over it.

He's also doing a bad job of referencing it. No inline refs, no tags. That is also against policy.

Yes, it's already been reported, no action was taken. Yet.

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Post by DJFonzi » Mon May 19, 2014 8:45 pm

No dog in this fight, but that's a pretty piss-poor wikipedia article. Hell, does it even meet the notability guidelines?

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Post by andrewF » Mon May 19, 2014 10:46 pm

vani-spam! :lol:

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Post by metasonix » Mon May 19, 2014 10:52 pm

This is hilarious:

"Peter Grenader on Danny’s Toolbox Synth"
Is this the most pretentious thing ever posted on a Tool fansite? Love the comments:
"I don’t know much about synths so most of this went over my head, but it was still cool nonetheless."
"Im in the same boat, most went over my head. Still a great read and cool pic!"
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Post by valis » Mon May 19, 2014 10:54 pm

It's a popular business strategy for many businesses although it's certainly not allowed by wiki. Even considering the chuckles on the page and the sordid backstory of the company, I fail to see the reason for the outrage in regards to his entry. If somebody wants to edit it further, all power to them. That's Wikipedia.

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Post by Joe. » Mon May 19, 2014 11:40 pm

If Metasonix continues to fight for what's right then my Lecturers may one day accept wiki-Articles as legit references.



Aww yeah :agonizer:

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Post by PrimateSynthesis » Tue May 20, 2014 1:46 pm

Guns N' Roses? :hmm:
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Post by Tim Stinchcombe » Tue May 20, 2014 3:13 pm

PrimateSynthesis wrote:Guns N' Roses? :hmm:
Apparently so - pictures of said system (at web.archive from the defunct EAR site).
andrewF wrote:vani-spam!
Hmm, thought I'd seen that term before somewhere - back in the history, when a few others took notice of the article and were interested enough to tinker with it:

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metasonix wrote:
Design innovations credited by Grenader are the introduction of buffered multiples, the motion sensing dual axis joystick controller, a programmable tap clock and the first manufacture to include variable potentiometer control within a 2cm wide module: the ELF series.

So, did he really invent the buffered mult?
Others with a greater knowledge of synth history will be better placed to answer that than I (it is possible I guess, but it could hardly be called a game-changer of a module). I passed-up the chance to buy one some months back when I saw it was (literally) just three TL074s, a TL072, and a few decoupling caps - I later regretted doing so when I realised there we so few Plan B modules I hadn't seen.

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Re: Peter Grenader is still poking at his Wikipedia article

Post by timmcg » Tue May 20, 2014 4:58 pm

So, did he really invent the buffered mult?

I'm not saying he did or didn't but I have buffered mults in my Synton system from 1984. Was he responsible for those?
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Post by MindMachine » Tue May 20, 2014 5:16 pm

Analog Solutions had buffered mults before Plan B was around - right?
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Re: Peter Grenader is still poking at his Wikipedia article

Post by science » Fri May 23, 2014 5:17 pm

timmcg wrote:So, did he really invent the buffered mult?

I'm not saying he did or didn't but I have buffered mults in my Synton system from 1984. Was he responsible for those?
Peter invented Synton before Synton was cool.

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Re: Peter Grenader is still poking at his Wikipedia article

Post by timmcg » Fri May 23, 2014 7:00 pm

science wrote:
timmcg wrote:So, did he really invent the buffered mult?

I'm not saying he did or didn't but I have buffered mults in my Synton system from 1984. Was he responsible for those?
Peter invented Synton before Synton was cool.
Am I to assume there's just a tad of scarcasm here? No?
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Post by Tim Stinchcombe » Sun Aug 31, 2014 5:09 pm

Sort of wandered into the Wikipedia article, and couldn't help but notice that the buffered multiples are back in, so someone in the LA area thinks it important enough to mention...

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Post by Kent » Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:21 pm

I think that Analogue Systems had their RS-230 Buffered Mult and inverter released before Plan B.

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Post by kwaidan » Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:21 pm

The statement under question suffers from poor parallel construction:

Design innovations credited by Grenader are the introduction of the motion sensing dual axis joystick controller, the buffered multiple, a programmable tap clock and the first manufacture to include variable potentiometer control within a 2cm wide module: the ELF series.

In addition, I think it is funny that credit is given for stuffing a potentiometer into a small module.

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Post by strettara » Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:00 am

This has to be the bitchiest thread on muffs. What's the point?
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Post by PrimateSynthesis » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:25 pm

strettara wrote:This has to be the bitchiest thread on muffs. What's the point?
The gain in flogging a dead horse is that it's practice flogging.
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Post by Beermaster » Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:04 am

Yep, I had three Analogue Systems Buff mults on my 8500 back in 1997

Back then it was only Doepfer and Analogue Systems

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Post by moog55 » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:19 am

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Post by daverj » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:38 pm

WIth the release of the Plan B Model 31, I introduced the Buffered Mult into Modular Synthesizers in 2007.
With less than 5 minutes searching the web I came across this buffered mult from 1984, made by a Dutch synth company and distributed in the US by Bob Moog: (note the description of the module in the lower left)

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I'm sure there's more info of other early ones on the web.

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Post by Synthoholic » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:17 pm

Believe it or not I have seen him at least a few times on the CNN comment sections.

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Post by haricots » Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:10 am

haha. me too! CNN of all places.

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Post by LeftyLogic » Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:45 pm

Well that was an entertaining read. :roll:
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