Modular Synths and Jazz?

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Re: Modular Synths and Jazz?

Post by tito_tunes » Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:01 am

I play Jazz with modular synths. I'm an EWI player that wanted a great sounding analog sound module, that led me down the road of building a modular. Here's a video I did using Mutable Yarns to do a 4 part harmonization of my EWI with analog oscs. This is using the modular as a live played voice in a live ensemble, playing melodic stuff.



You can also use the modular as a sequenced accompaniment, be more on the atonal/dissonant side and play live instruments on top of it. One of my favorite examples of this is Rain Dance by Herbie Hancock.

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Re: Modular Synths and Jazz?

Post by tardishead » Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:06 pm

A lot of library music in the 70s featured modular synths coupled with some of the best players you’re ever likely to hear mostly coming from a jazz background
Klaus Weiss did some huge sounding modular Moog jams that make Dr Dre sound like lift music
umberto umiliani
Lots of soundtracks. Rollerball,
Pierre Henry records
Jean Jaques Peret - ever heard his version of Give It Up Turn It Loose?
Some jazz guys did Lps with modular/concrete artists.
Alphonse Mouzon. Very rare though would take some digging
Oh yeh you gotta check out Placebo - Belgian group from 70s led by Marc Moulin. ‘Sam Suffy’one of my all time favourite records.
Back in the day jazz guys were some of the earliest to welcome this new technology.

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Re: Modular Synths and Jazz?

Post by shockletit » Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:07 pm

If only Sun Ra were still around...

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Re: Modular Synths and Jazz?

Post by tardishead » Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:42 pm

shockletit wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:07 pm
If only Sun Ra were still around...
Some of those Crumar half synth half organ things were amazing
I tried to find one for ages.

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Re: Modular Synths and Jazz?

Post by electricanada » Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:37 pm

tardishead wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:42 pm
shockletit wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:07 pm
If only Sun Ra were still around...
Some of those Crumar half synth half organ things were amazing
I tried to find one for ages.
Sun Ra was amazing. I was fortunate to have heard his big band live three times. Unforgettable. Space is the place!
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Re: Modular Synths and Jazz?

Post by electricanada » Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:39 pm

tito_tunes wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:01 am
I play Jazz with modular synths. I'm an EWI player that wanted a great sounding analog sound module, that led me down the road of building a modular. Here's a video I did using Mutable Yarns to do a 4 part harmonization of my EWI with analog oscs. This is using the modular as a live played voice in a live ensemble, playing melodic stuff.

Nice one. How do you get it to harmonize? Is there another midi input besides the ewi? How do you handle tuning the oscillators to each other and the band?
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Re: Modular Synths and Jazz?

Post by Fog Door » Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:22 pm

@tito-tunes

That is absolutely fantastic! Ewi sounds great but I've got to be honest, it's the flute that really slays me! :sb:

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Re: Modular Synths and Jazz?

Post by tito_tunes » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:25 pm

electricanada wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:39 pm
Nice one. How do you get it to harmonize? Is there another midi input besides the ewi? How do you handle tuning the oscillators to each other and the band?
There's nothing in between the EWI and Yarns. I'm using Yarns in 4 x Monophonic mode, with 4 channels of CV from the same monophonic midi input. I have voice one as the top note of the chord, and the other three are transposed down to make a min7 chord. Each channel has different pitch bend range so some bend a 1/2 step others a whole step. When I use the pitch bender I'm able to morph form a min7 chord to a maj7 chord. The fingering on the EWI controls the transpose. I wrote the song based on on the possibilities offered by the patch.

I will say the tuning is a bit finicky with 4 analog oscs (all Intellijel). I tuned up right before this take, and it would probably sound off after about half an hour. When I play live I use Yarns special feature of outputting oscillator tones directly. They don't sound as rich as the analog ones but they're perfectly in tune and don't drift. I'll keep voice one as a true analog OSC and the rest will be digital. Then I can tune voice 1 to the others quite easily.
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Re: Modular Synths and Jazz?

Post by tito_tunes » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:33 pm

Fog Door wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:22 pm
@tito-tunes

That is absolutely fantastic! Ewi sounds great but I've got to be honest, it's the flute that really slays me! :sb:
Thanks man!
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Re: Modular Synths and Jazz?

Post by electricanada » Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:16 pm

tito_tunes wrote:
Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:25 pm
electricanada wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:39 pm
Nice one. How do you get it to harmonize? Is there another midi input besides the ewi? How do you handle tuning the oscillators to each other and the band?
There's nothing in between the EWI and Yarns. I'm using Yarns in 4 x Monophonic mode, with 4 channels of CV from the same monophonic midi input. I have voice one as the top note of the chord, and the other three are transposed down to make a min7 chord. Each channel has different pitch bend range so some bend a 1/2 step others a whole step. When I use the pitch bender I'm able to morph form a min7 chord to a maj7 chord. The fingering on the EWI controls the transpose. I wrote the song based on on the possibilities offered by the patch.

I will say the tuning is a bit finicky with 4 analog oscs (all Intellijel). I tuned up right before this take, and it would probably sound off after about half an hour. When I play live I use Yarns special feature of outputting oscillator tones directly. They don't sound as rich as the analog ones but they're perfectly in tune and don't drift. I'll keep voice one as a true analog OSC and the rest will be digital. Then I can tune voice 1 to the others quite easily.
Nice trick with the pitch bend. Did you know Mike Brecker’s rotator patch is now available for iPad as a Mozaic script?
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Re: Modular Synths and Jazz?

Post by ersatzplanet » Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:33 pm

Right out of College I was playing in a jazz quartet, playing a VCS3 and Echoplex. The guitarist plugged into his amp and also my rig and I would modify what he did, some Ring Mod but mainly taking his lines and playing the Echoplex to bend notes and make cascading chord runs and such. I also played a lot of abstract sounds, basically I was an electronic percussionist. No tonal things, mainly "ray guns from mars" and noise effects. Abstract synth is perfect for "space jazz".

I have always thought that abstract modular would be perfect for heavy Reggae use too.
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Post by InsectInPixel » Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:08 pm

cptnal wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:29 pm
Here's one, albeit a small piece of the whole...

[video][/video]

:sb: :sb: :goo: :sb:
Nerve is awesome. I went on Bandcamp and bought all their vinyl. Thanks for sharing! I never heard of them until this post.
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sandettie wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:11 am
Szun Waves employ some modular.

[video][/video]
I like this record too. I also got this on vinyl via Bandcamp.
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Re: Modular Synths and Jazz?

Post by ZargZorg » Sun Mar 08, 2020 1:15 pm

Rob mazurek uses a modular a lot

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Post by otnemem » Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:34 am

InsectInPixel wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:08 pm
cptnal wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:29 pm
Here's one, albeit a small piece of the whole...

[video][/video]

:sb: :sb: :goo: :sb:
Nerve is awesome. I went on Bandcamp and bought all their vinyl. Thanks for sharing! I never heard of them until this post.
Same here!

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Re: Modular Synths and Jazz?

Post by Xomrys » Fri Mar 13, 2020 1:13 am

wackelpeter wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:17 am
[video] [/video]
Diese 440 = Claude Micheli and Guillaume Loizillon, they also did electronics (as 'CY1') on one of my favorite records of all time: Zazou/Bikaye/CY1 - Noir et Blanc. the electronics are also in a similar rhythmic style as the Barney Wilen collaboration.

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Re: Modular Synths and Jazz?

Post by Slothrop » Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:59 pm

tardishead wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:06 pm
Oh yeh you gotta check out Placebo
Wha...
- Belgian group from 70s led by Marc Moulin.
Ah right, not that Placebo...

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Re: Modular Synths and Jazz?

Post by Jd1979 » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:13 pm

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