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Mutable Instruments CVPal

Post by bezier » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:23 am

Seriously..... What is going on at MI these days :woah:


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Post by radiokoala » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:31 am

Wow, looks like what everybody was waiting for for years! :hyper:

CVpal is an upcoming DIY kit from Mutable Instruments. It is a simple 2-channel USB->CV/Gate interface.

Conversion modes:

* Single channel with velocity and "bonus stage" square digital oscillator.
* Dual monophonic.
* Duophonic.
* CC to CV conversion.
* 4-Triggers.

Other features:

* Only 26 parts to solder, good project for beginners!
* USB-powered.
* Available in mini plexi case or 4HP eurorack panel.
* OS X > 10.6.4, iOS or Linux.
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Post by bezier » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:38 am

Available in (...) 4HP eurorack panel.
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Will still keep the MCV4 as this has no midi out.

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Post by DonKartofflo » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:57 am

holy cow, somebody is working a lot right now. :woah:
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Post by odecahedron » Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:26 am

i could use the shit out of that

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Post by digidennis » Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:45 am

* OS X > 10.6.4, iOS or Linux.

No windows driver, or none needed?

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Post by mono-poly » Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:51 am

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Post by berfmurret » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:16 am

UNSTOPPABLE

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Post by lessavyfav » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:30 am

I was obsessing over this the other day. I hope it is USB standard compliant (whatever that is called) so that you can plug usb midi keyboards straight in!
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Post by meatbeatz » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:59 am

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Post by oootini » Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:04 am

won't run on windows without an useable amount of latency afaik.

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Post by Knights Who Say Neve » Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:10 am

digidennis wrote:* OS X > 10.6.4, iOS or Linux.

No windows driver, or none needed?
I would also like to know if it's class compliant. If so, it may work with the USB port on the Cirklon.

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Post by werock » Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:22 pm

Knights Who Say Neve wrote:
digidennis wrote:* OS X > 10.6.4, iOS or Linux.

No windows driver, or none needed?
I would also like to know if it's class compliant. If so, it may work with the USB port on the Cirklon.
Linux support usually means the hardware is class compliant - very few vendors create their own Linux drivers.

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Post by stk » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:13 pm

oootini wrote:won't run on windows without an useable amount of latency afaik.
Yeah that's kinda weird. It's either class compliant (and therefore needs no Windows drivers), or it's not (and the drivers are buggy).. :hmm:

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Post by wavehead » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:42 pm

this is perfect!

now i've got to start looking at ipad apps for control surface, keyboard and sequencing..

i wonder if you can use two of these at the same time on the computer? would make more sense to just use ES, but still intriguing.

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Post by vurma » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:08 am

Incrediburruh! Finally a way to interface Overtone with my modular.

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Post by twincities » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:12 am

skipping midi altogether should let it run OSC protocol max/msp stuff, right? awesome.

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Post by oootini » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:17 am

it's usb midi.

look for the thread 'DIY treat' on the MI forum for details...

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Post by twincities » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:42 am

ahhh, i see. seems silly to force the midi protocol when nothing ever touches a din cable, no? guess it's more plug and play for people who don't want to run max/msp shells and stuff to transport midi from their daw.

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Post by vurma » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:50 am

If its a dual usb->cv, why not let one of the channels accept OSC and the other MIDI protocol?
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Post by radiokoala » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:53 am

So it doesn't work on windows and my interest is officially lost.
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Post by vurma » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:15 am

radiokoala wrote:So it doesn't work on windows and my interest is officially lost.
Could be a good reason to try out Ubuntu! ^^

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Post by gwaidan » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:38 am

Whoa...before everyone gets too disappointed by what it can't do....


Whole idea of this was a quick'n'easy beginners DIY kit (target price 40 Euros) which gives people a useful alternative to a commercial USB-MIDI-CV interface-skiff friendly and USB-bus powered!! It will be open source so not too hard to have a go adapting the firmware yourself.

It will be class compliant.

Olivier goes into a lot of detail about it and why it doesn't work too well with Windows here:

http://www.mutable-instruments.net/foru ... y-treat/p1

Basically it's using an ATTiny to run everything, including USB. This means the USB has to run at low-speed, but the code "accelerates" data transfer beyond the low-speed standard to overcome latency problems. This is OK with iOS and OSX after 10.6, but not current Windows versions. It could be possible for someone to overcome this-there are proprietary Windows drivers for AVR-based USB-MIDI interfaces.

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Post by Nantonos » Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:06 pm

lessavyfav wrote:I was obsessing over this the other day. I hope it is USB standard compliant (whatever that is called) so that you can plug usb midi keyboards straight in!
USB doesn't work like that - it needs a USB host. But yes, you could plug this and your USB keyboard into your computer (or a USB hub on your computer).
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Post by Nantonos » Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:13 pm

twincities wrote:seems silly to force the midi protocol when nothing ever touches a din cable, no? guess it's more plug and play for people who don't want to run max/msp shells and stuff to transport midi from their daw.
On the contrary, there is lots of MIDI support (in DAWS, etc) and that software doesn't care what the physical layer is. So why run it over a DIN cable at 31,250 bits per second when you can run it over USB at 12 megabits a second instead?

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