Re-introducing the ADDAC802R VCA Quintet Reversed Panel

ADDAC System · Post by **ADDAC System** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:28 am

Hey!

We thought you'd be interested to know that we know offer the ADDAC802 with reversed front panel in case you want to have your jacks on top. It's available in both red & black versions

Features:
5 Channel Mixer
1 Master Output
External input into the Mix channel for daisy chaining.
2 independent mixing paths, Solo and Mix
Mix Output includes a 6th VCA with Pre and Post outputs

Each of the 5 channels has:
. VCA with initial Knob
. Monitor LED
. Independent output
. Linear or logarithmic control
. Solo/Off/Mix switch that routes their audio to the Solo Channel or the Mix channel. In Off position the VCA does not go to the outputs.

All 5 VCA's can be used separately for different sources (audio or cv) or mix in 2 different chains.

Outputs:
. 1 Pre Master VCA output
. 1 Post Master VCA output
. 1 Solo output

The Solo line is also intended for Pre Listening purposes, using this output to connect your headphones through some headphone amplifier module.

Check it out here!
Modular Grid post here!

flo · Post by **flo** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:31 am

Nice

It's really just a reversed face plate, right? I.e., the knobs turn the "wrong" way around, I guess? At least the labelling would imply so...

ADDAC System · Post by **ADDAC System** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:10 am

flo wrote:Nice

It's really just a reversed face plate, right? I.e., the knobs turn the "wrong" way around, I guess? At least the labelling would imply so...

The labeling needs to be redone - ignore the INIT/ATT labeling, we'll change it! Here's an image that indicates the knob movement.

flo · Post by **flo** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:06 am

Ah, very cool, so you switched around the knobs as well. Great to hear that! Most other modules with reverse panels do not do that at all. Much more intuitive to turn them the normal way around...

ADDAC System · Post by **ADDAC System** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:59 am

flo wrote:Ah, very cool, so you switched around the knobs as well. Great to hear that! Most other modules with reverse panels do not do that at all. Much more intuitive to turn them the normal way around...

Knobs go clockwise either way, I get confused sometimes as well! You can just buy the panel if you want.

asdfqwer · Post by **asdfqwer** » Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:24 pm

Hey one question about the mixer.

I didnt understand very well how the knobs work. Are they simply CV attenuators?

The video says in 2:23

Interesting: In "Init" position the signal is not processed by cv. Turning the knob counterclokwise will blend in the cv-signal

Can anyone explain what does mean?

-EDIT-

Just found the answer

up to 12 o'clock it's a CV attenuator, then after 12 o'clock you start to offset the level from 0 (additionally to the CV in)

flo · Post by **flo** » Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:06 pm

asdfqwer wrote:up to 12 o'clock it's a CV attenuator, then after 12 o'clock you start to offset the level from 0 (additionally to the CV in)

It's a nice and unique implementation, I like it a lot. The 802 is a workhorse

Post by **Paranormal Patroler** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:43 am

flo wrote:
asdfqwer wrote:up to 12 o'clock it's a CV attenuator, then after 12 o'clock you start to offset the level from 0 (additionally to the CV in)
It's a nice and unique implementation, I like it a lot. The 802 is a workhorse

That's actually a great solution to the Attenuation/Offset dilemma. You kinda lose half the range of the knob but then again, it's such a nice option to have right? We should make all manufacturers do this. Gaddam, how come nobody thought of this before?!?

monads · Post by **monads** » Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:02 pm

Totally onboard with 802R! Already an awesome module and having the 'reversed' version is really sweet! Thanks ADDAC!

ADDAC System · Post by **ADDAC System** » Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:33 pm

monads wrote:Totally onboard with 802R! Already an awesome module and having the 'reversed' version is really sweet! Thanks ADDAC!

Thank you monads!

ersatzplanet · Post by **ersatzplanet** » Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:11 pm

flo wrote:Ah, very cool, so you switched around the knobs as well. Great to hear that! Most other modules with reverse panels do not do that at all. Much more intuitive to turn them the normal way around...

The only reason a maker cannot do this easily is if they are using "D" flatted shafts and don't have opposing knobs (flat at the pointer and not opposite) or knobs with pointer caps. You don't have to change the pot orientation at all, all you have to do is re-orient the knobs. Even knurled knobs will work with a 180 degree flip of a pot (they won't with a 90 degree).

Those knobs use set screws so can be used in any orientation.

monads · Post by **monads** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:22 am

ADDAC System wrote:ignore the INIT/ATT labeling, we'll change it! Here's an image that indicates the knob movement.

Did the labeling get corrected??? If YES, it would be great if reflected on the ADDAC website and/or Modular Grid.

ADDAC System · Post by **ADDAC System** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:04 am

monads wrote:
ADDAC System wrote:ignore the INIT/ATT labeling, we'll change it! Here's an image that indicates the knob movement.

Did the labeling get corrected??? If YES, it would be great if reflected on the ADDAC website and/or Modular Grid.

Dully noted! Will make sure to update the images as soon as possible.

monads · Post by **monads** » Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:01 pm

Panels have been corrected/issued!!! Thanks ADDAC

cloudleft · Post by **cloudleft** » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:02 pm

As someone who is trying to plan a moderately large system, can anyone with experience provide advice as to which orientation of the 802 is useful in which contexts?

I can see that the different orientations will help with cables getting in the way of the knobs, but I'm still struggling to understand completely. For reference, I have a 12U/104HP folding flight case, and I'm not opposed to getting two. Whether it's two 802's, two 802R's or one of each remains to be seen.

And if anyone has general preference between the two orientations, I'm happy to hear their case! Thanks.

Summa · Post by **Summa** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:38 pm

cloudleft wrote:As someone who is trying to plan a moderately large system, can anyone with experience provide advice as to which orientation of the 802 is useful in which contexts?

I can see that the different orientations will help with cables getting in the way of the knobs, but I'm still struggling to understand completely. For reference, I have a 12U/104HP folding flight case, and I'm not opposed to getting two. Whether it's two 802's, two 802R's or one of each remains to be seen.

And if anyone has general preference between the two orientations, I'm happy to hear their case! Thanks.

The R version is designed to be put in a "skiff" position lying on its back so you easily get to the knobs without the cables draping over them. So if you plan on using them as the versatile mixer/vca's they are and want to be able to wiggle those knobs the R version is for you. But if in doubt just get both panels as reversing them is a breeze.

cloudleft · Post by **cloudleft** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:25 pm

Great, thanks for breaking it down. Makes sense now!

monads · Post by **monads** » Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:41 pm

Yes, it depends on how you plan to orient into your case and as Summa mentioned the cables not in the the way of the knobs. Get both panels if you can AT TIME of purchase! If you already have an 802 and want to switch with the R panel.....it might not be just a simple swap!! This is because on some 802s ADDAC used different jacks and the panel is NOT a simple swap requiring a dremel tool to the panel to fit to size. This was the case for me, and be extra careful when removing the panel to not damage any LED's!

cloudleft · Post by **cloudleft** » Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:45 pm

monads wrote:Yes, it depends on how you plan to orient into your case and as Summa mentioned the cables not in the the way of the knobs. Get both panels if you can AT TIME of purchase! If you already have an 802 and want to switch with the R panel.....it might not be just a simple swap!! This is because on some 802s ADDAC used different jacks and the panel is NOT a simple swap requiring a dremel tool to the panel to fit to size. This was the case for me, and be extra careful when removing the panel to not damage any LED's!

I didn't know this about the different versions. I don't already have an 802, and plan to buy new from either the manufacturer or their American distributors. Which version of the 802 do you have (the one which caused the issues with switching the panels)?

monads · Post by **monads** » Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:07 am

If you notice on the very first post, it's the 802 with jacks/switches that have nuts shown on the left that made the panel swap not so easy do to the holes on the panel sent to me being smaller/for the 802 module shown on the right. If you have a dremel tool you can size the holes on the panel to fit accordingly, it's just somewhat annoying to do!!

Ordering directly from ADDAC is pretty easy and I'd go that route if you want the black panel/confirmation of the panels fitting. If they don't have the panel on hand, it normally takes 4wks to procure so keep in mind regarding the wait time.

WisdomWriter · Post by **WisdomWriter** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:32 pm

I think besides the cwejman vca these are the best vcas/mixer. there is just one thing that I wish the 802 had, and that is the ability to sum certain outputs. that is the only reason I like the cwejman vca as "better" but the 802 is such an amazing utility. I have two that I use to layer sounds as they go to my output.

monads · Post by **monads** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:29 pm

WisdomWriter wrote:I think besides the cwejman vca these are the best vcas/mixer. there is just one thing that I wish the 802 had, and that is the ability to sum certain outputs...

That is true. But can't you send some to the Mix output and a few others to the Solo output to obtain the same thing??? I normally don't use either since I prefer the individual outputs of each vca.

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Re-introducing the ADDAC802R VCA Quintet Reversed Panel

Re-introducing the ADDAC802R VCA Quintet Reversed Panel