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Thanks!!! - will probably have some more up this weekend - I'm really liking my new Doepfer a-137-2! and probably by next weekend there will be some syntonie modules in the mix (inverter, multiplier and cbv001) - just waiting on a few components that I didn't have in stock...Your stuff on instagram is very cool too, Agawell. Love it.
I wouldn't pre-order the Chromagnon (or any other product) from LZX--wait until it's on the shelves. Speaking from experience, LZX is unrealistic about product development and delivery, and any timeline offered is unrealistic. This is a separate issue from the COVID-related delays we're seeing.cannonball swandive wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:04 amI would love to preorder but it’s a lot of cash to drop without even a demo of what it will be capable of. Is there any time frame for a demo?
As the owner of a large LZX modular setup, and having pre-ordered both the TBC2 (ordered in July 2019) and Chromagnon (January 2020), I wish I could disagree with you but i can't. As an existing LZX customer, I'm confident they will come through, eventually. But for new LZX customers, I would caution that you are likely in for a long wait.Hovercraft wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:03 pmI wouldn't pre-order the Chromagnon (or any other product) from LZX--wait until it's on the shelves. Speaking from experience, LZX is unrealistic about product development and delivery, and any timeline offered is unrealistic. This is a separate issue from the COVID-related delays we're seeing.
Chromagnon was announced (and orders begain) in late December 2019 for March 2020 delivery--which means it should have already been in production. Not only was it not in production, it wasn't remotely close. I can appreciate that some products take years in development, but I don't appreciate when companies aren't upfront about realistic schedules. Were they worried about cashflow into the company? Possibly, but that doesn''t justify misleading claims. I won't even go into the TBC2 debacle, but if anyone wants to defend their business practices, you'd should have a good explanation for what was going on in December 2019 with the Chromagnon announcement.
This VC discontinuation, and the Chromagnon delays, are made worse with the retirement (replacements coming) of the Cadet line, which can be used to replace most of the functionality of the VC.Mr. Wiggles wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:41 pmI don't really see a problem with advanced announcement (with a realistic timeline), but it is a bit of a problem that LZX discontinued Visual Cortex such a long time before releasing Chromagnon. It seems to be pretty hard to actually build a video synthesis rig with the current lineup of modules.
^^^^^So true!!! Hoping TBC2 is within next few months and Chromagnon by Summer/Fall 2021.northerntao wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:20 pmAs the owner of a large LZX modular setup, and having pre-ordered both the TBC2 (ordered in July 2019) and Chromagnon (January 2020), I wish I could disagree with you but i can't. As an existing LZX customer, I'm confident they will come through, eventually. But for new LZX customers, I would caution that you are likely in for a long wait.Hovercraft wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:03 pmI wouldn't pre-order the Chromagnon (or any other product) from LZX--wait until it's on the shelves. Speaking from experience, LZX is unrealistic about product development and delivery, and any timeline offered is unrealistic. This is a separate issue from the COVID-related delays we're seeing.
Chromagnon was announced (and orders begain) in late December 2019 for March 2020 delivery--which means it should have already been in production. Not only was it not in production, it wasn't remotely close. I can appreciate that some products take years in development, but I don't appreciate when companies aren't upfront about realistic schedules. Were they worried about cashflow into the company? Possibly, but that doesn''t justify misleading claims. I won't even go into the TBC2 debacle, but if anyone wants to defend their business practices, you'd should have a good explanation for what was going on in December 2019 with the Chromagnon announcement.
They have retired almost their complete product line, with a roadmap for replacements, while products announced 2.5 years ago (TBC2) are still waiting for delivery - the TBC2 "debacle" was worsened when the product was completely revised, removing considerable features, a year and a half after announced. To be fair, they did offer a refund, but claimed that the announced product features were in flux and they never actually confirmed that certain features (namely digital input) would be supported. Hmmm...
Meanwhile, month after month, they confirm it will be just a little longer...