My 300 on Facebook -rant. Wack a troll

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Post by metasonix » Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:45 pm

http://www.facebook.com/groups/111029938930272/

Did someone already delete the troll thread? Shame. I always enjoy watching the chronically pathetic trying to harass others anonymously. Especially on Facebook, it's made for it.

Ah, that must be it:


"Vincent Brown", right? Looks like a 14-year-old. Wasting you time trying to "reason" with him, probably.
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Post by thetwlo » Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:48 pm

metasonix wrote:http://www.facebook.com/groups/111029938930272/

Did someone already delete the troll thread? Shame. I always enjoy watching the chronically pathetic trying to harass others anonymously. Especially on Facebook, it's made for it.
it's the next one down from your link, with the Wiard 300, not so epic, i don't think he means to a troll, just a dumbass/perhaps noob.

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Post by decaying.sine » Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:50 pm

I saw that thread. Great pic. I felt happy for you, Tommy, that you had built such a wonderful instrument. That guy's posts... :roll:
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Post by Matos » Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:48 pm

Tommy, your system is ridiculously beautiful. I hope it continues to fill you with glee, which is priceless. You made an Investment in yourself, which is the wisest of all.

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Post by thesnow » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:17 am

thanks. that's all I wanted. to see the pics. just the most gorgeous and perfect Wiard setup/case I've seen. Just beautiful!

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Post by revmutt » Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:39 am

I appreciate the compliments on my 300. I posted the gear porn so people would enjoy it and we all, especially me got dragged into that troll fest. I hope by now that has been settled and if all is right maybe the troll got banned.

Muffs is about the fantasy the extreme and the hot rod of modulars. The people here rule. The balance of using instruments and laughing at ourselves in our quest for perfection is a nice thing.
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Re: My 300 on Facebook -rant. Wack a troll

Post by carygrace » Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:54 am

revmutt wrote:For those who don't look at muffs on Facebook, I had posted a picture of my 300 which got lots of nice compliments until someone decided it was an overpriced rich mans tool and couldn't understand the fact laid before him about quality, depth of features etc.
Overpriced??? Huh??? I wonder how much he thinks all those hours of hand-wiring and meticulous construction are worth. But I'm sure anybody making comments like that has never actually built anything himself, and does not understand the difference between an heirloom and a mass-produced consumer product. This is a common (but false) perspective in this age of disposable goods. Just ignore him.

Your system is beautiful!

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Re: My 300 on Facebook -rant. Wack a troll

Post by hexinverter » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:10 am

carygrace wrote:Overpriced??? Huh??? I wonder how much he thinks all those hours of hand-wiring and meticulous construction are worth. But I'm sure anybody making comments like that has never actually built anything himself, and does not understand the difference between an heirloom and a mass-produced consumer product. This is a common (but false) perspective in this age of disposable goods. Just ignore him.

Your system is beautiful!
That is precisely what I wanted to say, but couldn't quite find the words to express it perfectly (also, did not want to feed the trolls over there).

Well said :cloud:
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Re: My 300 on Facebook -rant. Wack a troll

Post by thesnow » Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:42 pm

carygrace wrote: Overpriced??? Huh??? I wonder how much he thinks all those hours of hand-wiring and meticulous construction are worth. But I'm sure anybody making comments like that has never actually built anything himself, and does not understand the difference between an heirloom and a mass-produced consumer product. This is a common (but false) perspective in this age of disposable goods. Just ignore him.

Your system is beautiful!
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Post by plord » Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:01 am

I wish I could help you out Rev, but quitting Facebook is one of the smartest things I ever did.

Post the pix to this thread instead! Unblemished love will follow.

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Post by Entrainer » Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:32 am

People don't understand the sacrifice. They look and see something
that LASTS and has value.

Yeah, that's what happens when you don't spend money on vacations,
eating out, drinking at the bar, buying video games, taking partners to
dinner, buying expensive clothes that are out of style in a couple years.
Not to mention recreational pharmaceuticals. All those things DISAPPEAR.

Hell, I quit my cell-phone service and don't have cable TV. No health
insurance.

You put $200 a month in for 10 years, you'll have a $24k rig. Maybe more
if you wait it out, cash on hand, buy used only when super deals show up.

Wonder if he's seen what violins, accordions, and pianos cost?
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Post by polyroy » Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:55 am

Entrainer wrote: Wonder if he's seen what violins, accordions, and pianos cost?
Yeah, but you can play 'decent music' on those instruments so obviously that doesn't matter.
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Post by Entrainer » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:04 am

polyroy wrote:
Entrainer wrote: Wonder if he's seen what violins, accordions, and pianos cost?
Yeah, but you can play 'decent music' on those instruments so obviously that doesn't matter.
:roll:

I know what I've preferred to listen to for the last two decades.
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Post by anadeji » Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:39 pm

plord wrote:I wish I could help you out Rev, but quitting Facebook is one of the smartest things I ever did.
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Post by laserpalace » Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:57 pm

I found this bit of text very relevant to your situation via Grant Richter on the Yahoo Forum:
Only an industry needs "tools", music and medicine, which are both arts, use "instruments".

If you have "tools" and you do not produce results desired by someone else, you are considered inept or lazy and the fault is yours.

If the "instruments" of surgery fail, the doctor is not blamed IF they did their very best in an uncertain and difficult circumstance. This is more like creating art and composing music.

Up to the point where music became big business, it was not treated as a craft where "results" are expected and predictable. It did not use "tools' to produce these predictable results. (and certainly not "weapons" for an "arsenal" of War)

It used precious "instruments" for a personal journey of discovery and enrichment with an outcome that is unknown. The fact that the destination is unknown, is what makes the journey exciting.

Music is for your personal enrichment, you are not obligated to produce music that anybody else likes, or even recognizes as music (consider the original reaction to "The Rite of Spring").

The attempt to produce art which is "popular" has led to all my artist failures. The Wiard is not intended to be popular. I can accept that you dislike it, but please don't think I'm obligated to produce "tools" for a process that I do NOT want to be industrialized.

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Post by slow_riot » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:41 pm

how lucky we are to have Grant. so often i have wrestled with myself over the music that i make, chasing this elusive popular form that does not come naturally, and I am weighed by many feelings of guilt. my music is not popular, my primary activity in life does not enable me to pay my way. the fact that i can get by, and feed my soul and sometimes others is a more important thing than i have realised.

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Post by laserpalace » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:11 pm

how lucky we are to have Grant. so often i have wrestled with myself over the music that i make, chasing this elusive popular form that does not come naturally, and I am weighed by many feelings of guilt. my music is not popular, my primary activity in life does not enable me to pay my way. the fact that i can get by, and feed my soul and sometimes others is a more important thing than i have realised.
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Post by RomuloCesar » Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:25 pm

What is facebook ?
I haven't visited that page yet ... and this is not a joke ahaha

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Post by RomuloCesar » Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:32 pm

Wonder if he's seen what violins, accordions, and pianos cost?
for real man...

my friends viola coast her about $75G. Which was paid by a philanthropist.

it is only wood and a few grams of metal 8_)
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Post by DonKartofflo » Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:19 am

yeah. totally overpriced. Wiard should outsource to china, build mass produced all in one stuff with usb input and preset management system.
Plastic faceplates, low quality jacks et voila! Nice price.


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