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Post by Muff Wiggler » Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:58 am

wtf, it's like Massive Attack but 30 years earlier.

talk about ahead of your time, shit

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Post by felix » Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:07 am

Yeah isn't that awesome! I can't remember where I first read about these old recordings recently "found" (matrixsynth or somewhere) but I was completely blown away. Really cool!
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Post by apemandan » Sat Oct 04, 2008 3:25 am

She was amazing! I'm a big fan..

Check out the newly discovered 'dance' tune, scroll halfway down the page..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7512072.stm

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Post by futuresoundsystems » Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:40 am

The White Noise album is awesome.
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Post by sandyb » Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:15 pm

Delia was cool!
also check out the work of Daphne Oram - one of the founders of the Radiophonic Workshop.
http://daphneoram.org/

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Post by wetterberg » Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:43 pm

I'll bite:

[ali G]I definitely would[/Ali G]

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Post by e-grad » Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:06 pm

sandyb wrote:check out the work of Daphne Oram
Here's a link with some samples of Daphne's work:
http://www.stalk.net/paradigm/pd21.html

Sandy, you've got the Parmegiani box on order and value Daphne Oram as well. Great!

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Post by sandyb » Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:19 pm

e-grad wrote:
sandyb wrote:check out the work of Daphne Oram
Here's a link with some samples of Daphne's work:
http://www.stalk.net/paradigm/pd21.html

Sandy, you've got the Parmegiani box on order and value Daphne Oram as well. Great!
yup - i've got the "Oramics" cd which i really like. i've been getting very into early electronic music over the last year or two.

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Post by e-grad » Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:40 pm

Yes, I think there's a lot early electronic music to discover, i.e. "Music of the Future" by Desmond Leslie or "Et Glasperlespil" by Else Marie Pade (Denmark) both from the 1950s.

Here's a link to a site dedicated to Else Marie:

http://www.technodotdk.dk/else.php

By now there are two CDs released with her work: "Et Glasperlespil" and "Face It!"

Talking on Delia there two rather recent releases which are albeit out of print:

A full album named "Electrosonic" and a quadruble 10" on Rephlex called "Music from the BBC Radiophonic Workshop". The Replex release includes one full 10" of Delias' work. Both show up rather frequently in the bay.
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Post by wetterberg » Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:43 pm

Yeah, Else Marie Pade is awesome - she was really considered a freak at the time, but is now rapidly approaching folk hero status in electronica circles here in Denmark.

Her electronic works were released as art scores recently - beautiful. She still gives talks about her work and her weird world.

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Post by e-grad » Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:50 pm

By now there's a book on her, alas, in Danish which I cannot read unfortunately. :sad:

"Et Glasperlespil" is definately one of my all time classics. Not the single composition "Glasperlespil" but the whole outstanding cd release!

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Post by wetterberg » Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:52 pm

e-grad wrote:By now there's a book on her, alas, in Danish which I cannot read unfortunately. :sad:
that is really too bad - I was certain it had been translated or something - they were selling them at ICMC (I think)

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Post by e-grad » Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:55 pm

wetterberg wrote:they were selling them at ICMC (I think)
Do you have a link?

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Post by wetterberg » Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:59 pm

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wetterberg wrote:they were selling them at ICMC (I think)
Do you have a link?
sorry, no :( Did you know she was active in the resistance? Yes, *the* resistance, fightin germans. Wild.

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Post by e-grad » Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:13 pm

She was even arrested by the Gestapo and deported to Froslev. Fortunately the Gestapo documents on her and her resistance group burnt back then in Arhus otherwise she probably would not have survived.

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Post by wetterberg » Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:18 pm

you're right. Thankfully a great number of Danes got off easy - and i can only imagine the creative inspiration her generation has drawn from those times.

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Post by wetterberg » Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:21 pm

on a different note; the first video showed the Putney - it's amazing how part of the BBC labs left when proper synths came around because things "just became too easy" :hail:

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Post by e-grad » Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:41 am

wetterberg wrote:it's amazing how part of the BBC labs left when proper synths came around because things "just became too easy" :hail:
I don't know to whom you're refering. At least none of those members of the workshop I know left for this reason.

Daphne Oram left bcs. she was disappointed that the workshop never was a studio for electronic music as in Cologne or Paris but was in any respect subordniated to the drama department of the BBC. Also she was unhappy that the workshop was always rather bad equipped. Even though after she had departed some legendary EMS stuff was acquired most of the workshop's equipment was scrapped by other departments of the BBC. She left to build her own studio (Folly Tower) and to concentrate on the development of her own opto-electronical instrument - the legandary Oramics.

Delia Derbyshire left bcs. she became unhappy to create incidential music for the radio.

Maddalena Fagandini left with the arrival of the first EMS synth bcs. she has felt not comfortable with the new technology. Speaking on her: As Ray Cathode she did an incredible 7" "Time Beat"/Waltz in the Orbit" which is every now and then in the *bay.

I've to admitt that I have no idea who else left the workshop for what reason. So others might have left for the reason mentioned.

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Post by Bricks » Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:51 am

in my list of new posts, "Delia Derbyshire" registered right about "Sex Face - NSFW ?"

and I got excited at the juxtaposition :love:

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Post by wetterberg » Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:39 pm

e-grad wrote:
wetterberg wrote:it's amazing how part of the BBC labs left when proper synths came around because things "just became too easy" :hail:
I don't know to whom you're refering. At least none of those members of the workshop I know left for this reason.
...
I've to admitt that I have no idea who else left the workshop for what reason. So others might have left for the reason mentioned.
I'm paraphrasing some biographical articles I've read over the years. I'll see if I can find teh sauce.

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Post by e-grad » Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:22 pm

Yes, also keep in mind Else Marie Pade and Bebe Barron. The Barrons did way more than the soundtrack Forbidden Planet and cutting the Williams Mix for Cage.

Interestingly non of those women (incl. those at the BBC) had access to an offical studio dedicated to electronic music. At the INA GRM (Paris) and the NWDR (Cologne) were to my best knowledge exclusively men.[1]

The only exception was Else Marie who were able to work on her composition next to incidental music at the Danish Radio. However, as Wittenberg said, she had a hard stand there.

[1] Also in the 1950s there was a studio for electronic music in Italy at the Radio Audizioni Italiane. Unfortunately I've no information on their work.

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Post by sandyb » Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:23 pm

i think i have a cd or two by people from RAI - i'll dig them out and see if there's any information.

i'm sure some of you have heard these already but there was a very good series of radio programmes on early electronic music last year that came out on Resonance 104 FM called The Tone Generation. each programme is 1/2 hour long and covers a different country or geographical area. there's some interesting music in them. they're available to download here:

http://www.simonsound.co.uk/sound


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Post by Morley » Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:45 pm

Fabulous musician and oddly sexy, but that´s another matter.
All the radiophonic stuff is interesting. If you haven´t seen the Radiophonic program from the BBC "alchemists of sound" do so.
Another women worth checking out is Eliane Radigue. Some pretty cool drone stuff done on Tape and ARP 2500.

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Post by e-grad » Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:00 pm

Thanks for the link, sandy.

Yes, "Alchmists of Sound" is great. Just have to think about Maddalena when she's "accussed" of being responsible for Ray Cathode.

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Post by Roycie Roller » Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:05 pm

e-grad wrote:
[1] Also in the 1950s there was a studio for electronic music in Italy at the Radio Audizioni Italiane. Unfortunately I've no information on their work.
Years ago, i found an old record without a cover in an op shop. It's a compilation of electronic music. There is work by Eugeniusz Rudnik & Bohdan Mazurek, done at the Experimental Studio, Polish Radio, Warsaw (1967), & work done by Jozef Malovec, at the Czechoslovak Radio.
There may have been 'experimental studios' all across Europe. I'd love to see some of the electronics that were built by engineers in countries who couldn't afford to instal EMS, etc.
@Morley, you're not alone- i too think Delia was pretty sexy!

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