Which House-Music Producers made some good money?

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Which House-Music Producers made some good money?

Post by Gringo Starr » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:46 pm

Which House Music artists would you guess made a good living off of House Music?

I missed electronic music in the 90's. Actually up until a little over ten years ago. Whenever I research House music and all the sub-categories of House music it's always collections of different artists and there doesn't seem to be one or a few artists that dominated the scene. None that I've noticed anyways.

It left me wondering if any House artists were able to make a substantial living off of House music.
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Post by dubonaire » Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:32 pm

House can be a really broad term. Many producers of the broader house genre as well as techno, tech-house, DnB, garage etc producers made a lot of money in the 90s which was the golden period really. Some were set up for life, especially those that ran labels which became successful. Around that time some of the bigger labels were moving thousands of records a month. Many of those producers still DJ and produce today and can command big appearance fees, one example being Carl Cox, another is Aphex Twin. Some like Carl Cox, for example Adam Beyer, still play at many of the big festivals and command large appearance fees. Many of the American Chicago and Detroit house DJs also command large appearance fees.

It's much harder to make money know and that often requires investing a lot of money for social media presence and tracks being pushed on download platform charts like Beatport. Consequently there is a lot of dross out there which is little more than assembled loops.

The big money now is being made by people who have scant DJ or production skills but muscled their way onto the festival circuit. It's a shame really. Fortunately there are pockets of good stuff being made but those people don't make as much.

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Post by GrantB » Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:22 pm

The answer to this question depends on your definitions of "good living", "house music", and perhaps "artists".

The big money in house music has been in headlining large festivals as a DJ, particularly in Europe.

https://moneyinc.com/richest-djs-world/

If we examine the people in this list, we will note a few things:
1) They're more well known as DJs than recording artists, though most have released popular tracks (at least ghost written for them).
2) Of those who started with house music in the 80s/90s, they are more well known for the more commercialized big festival genres i.e. trance and EDM.
3) No black Americans, despite the origins of house music and the strictest definitions thereof.

Now, if we significantly tighten up our definition of house music and assume "good living" means "at least a decent standard of living from a lengthy full time music career", we can include a lot more, particularly from the NYC/NJ club scene. We have Timmy Regisford, Kerri Chandler, Tony Humphries, Roger Sanchez, David Morales, Danny Tenaglia, MAW, B&S crew, the list goes on.

Now the midwest? Frankie Knuckles seemed to do alright until his unfortunate passing, Derrick Carter, Ron Trent, Moodyman, Theo Parrish, but many legends like Larry Heard seem to prefer to work a day job these days.

The West Coast had several house artists who were doing it full time in the 90s, though many have dropped off the map now. There's Kaskade from the list of rich fuckers above but again, is it still house music? Up to you.

And in the UK of course there's a ton of guys who've made a successful career at least starting with house music, Carl Cox etc.

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Post by neandrewthal » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:31 am

Witch house producers made good money?

I dunno. You tell me.
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Post by Gringo Starr » Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:14 am

neandrewthal wrote:Witch house producers made good money?

I dunno. You tell me.
Witch-House? Hmmm now that could be a new genre. 8-)
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Post by Moerder » Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:52 pm

Gringo Starr wrote:
neandrewthal wrote:Witch house producers made good money?

I dunno. You tell me.
Witch-House? Hmmm now that could be a new genre. 8-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch_house_(genre) <-- ^^

Edit: somehow messed up the link and editing it seems to make it worse, suffice it to say that this has been coined and is already a thing. sort of..

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Post by Fog Door » Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:03 pm

I was initially very excited about witch house, but it turned out to be a load of tedious bollocks. Surprise, surprise "artists" were more interested in the prospect of "making good money" than creating something new and exciting. The tragedy being it never really had the potential to be commercially viable anyway, it was always going to be niche at best

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Post by Moerder » Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:18 pm

@Fog Door: yeah, I know what you mean. as with so many potentially good or new things, it was taken over by commercialisation, despite the relatively tiny scope. and now, the term is invariably linked to stuff that one might not want to be linked to, even though you'd perhaps consider your own stuff to be somehow suitable name-wise. it does sound sort of alluring, but once you know what it's 'defined' as, it sort of loses the appeal..

maybe we should opt for a Witch House 2.0 instead, or better yet, post-witch house or some standard genre progression terms like that. man, I thought rock and metal subgenres are painfully ridiculous at times (and usually not warranted), but it seems that it's necessary so publishers of magazines and the rest of the marketing humdrum have an easier time selling it to the public.

a little more on topic, house genres are equally numerous and I wonder if it's all that necessary there, too. somewhere else on MW I saw this chart (or link to it) with all different (probably not all) types on a timeline and I remember thinking how silly a lot of it seemed. it can't just be music, it has to have a new somewhat derivative-but-flashy name or it's not worth the effort. Gringo might want to narrow down the search to specific time periods or styles of house?

a few producers have already been named, but the prime time for recorded house music and related royalties is over I'd say. lots more money in other genres, festivals and merchandise these days.

edit for typos n shit. it's getting late.

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Post by EATyourGUITAR » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:34 am

wich house was a band in the late 90's in new jersey. I can't find anything online and I lost the CD. the band broke up because someone was sleeping in the studio that the band rented together.
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Post by lud » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:24 am

House music has always been really popular in the UK and Europe. Probably 1000s of house producers have had hits thus made money. Seems a strange question to me but I guess it's never been big in USA?
Not a commercial house fan at all but people like Paul oakenfold must have made millions

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Post by lud » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:28 am

I realise that house probably started in Chicago - you had some of the good stuff in the 80s and we got the euro house turd in the 90s!

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Post by dubonaire » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:22 pm

EATyourGUITAR wrote:some of them don't even get on the list. you only get $10K from a record.
That list is speculative.

It might be the case that you only get $10k now (or even less) but it was a different situation in the late 90s and a lot of producers made quite a lot of money.

But there are probably something around 200 - 300 house and techno DJs getting 10-50k+ a gig (aside from the mega EDM DJs who are getting 10 times that). Hawtin can get $50k a gig and he has 17 gigs between now and April. That's potentially $850k in 5 months or approaching $2 million a year and he's been gigging a long time.

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Post by dubonaire » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:28 pm

lud wrote:I realise that house probably started in Chicago - you had some of the good stuff in the 80s and we got the euro house turd in the 90s!
There were big house scenes in New York and San Francisco in the 90s. San Francisco had 10 dance music stores in the 90s - some just catering to a single genre. Commercially they were much bigger than Chicago and Detroit.

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