BlinkyLights wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:29 am
naturligfunktion wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:03 am
BlinkyLights wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:20 pm
I "get" but musically can't stand to listen to Steely Dan, Zappa, most Rush, Phish, most Prog in general, screamy Metal, and more I'm sure. I want absolutely no part of it.
Yeah I don't get Zappa at all. Find his music bad even. Funny character though. Great musicians in his band.
The only Zappa fans I know personally are musician nerds who are also into Phish and jambands and are nutty about virtuosity in terms of playing technique. I think they just get bored with the same old same old, and there aren't many "highly regarded" alternatives so they turn to Zappa and Anastasio and Claypool and Vai and Guthrie G and King Crimson, and Rush, and the rest.
Zappa is really hit or miss for me, and I have to be in the mood for him; but otherwise, this describes me fairly well. Also love Captain Beefheart, but again, need to be in the mood, especially for stuff like Trout Mask Replica
. Not into Phish at all; but definitely a big Grateful Dead fan, and can listen to their stuff for hours. Can't get into Claypool/Primus, even though I can appreciate the virtuosity. Love Rush a lot (some albums more than others, of course, not as big a fan of their late synth period), like some of King Crimson, and quite a bit of Yes. I've also gotten into Animals As Leaders more recently. Anyone who enjoys really complex and crunchy prog metal interleaved with acoustic/Spanish influences, would do well to check out their album The Madness of Many
Also like Genesis P-Orridge's various projects, but like Zappa, I have to be in the mood for them. Same with the cult avant-garde weirdness of Edward Ka-Spel's Legendary Pink Dots and Teargarden. To me, they're much easier to get into live, than they are to just sit and listen to. The live concerts have a kind of crazy hypnotic energy to them you rarely see elsewhere. The closest well-known band I can think of that hits me the same way is Pink Floyd; but their shows are way too big to have the same kind of intimacy.
I'm also one of about a dozen people who likes Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music
; and have a fondness for Japanoise, as well as industrial stuff like Dead Voices On Air and cEvin Key's download (The Eyes of Stanley Pain
And, as previously noted, I love the more complex forms of Jazz -- bebop, hard/post bop, free jazz, etc. I love Dixieland and swing as well, but I can't get lost in them the way I can the the "harder" stuff.
That said, I can still definitely get into classic blues and celtic music; particularly when I'm stressed and don't feel like I need the excessive brain stimulation of the other stuff.
Dr. Sketch-n-Etch wrote: ↑
Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:32 pm
David Bowie: At one point I downloaded virtually all of his output and put it on one of my MP3 players (I'm old-school). I listened to quite a bit of it, and decided that there was only a small proportion of it that I wanted to listen to again. I really love "Life on Mars?" and "Fame" just to name two.
Bowie's earlier stuff I can listen to on repeat, up to his Berlin period;
I'm the same way. Love everything just up to the Berlin era. The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars
is one of those albums I can listen to endlessly on repeat, and I love the entire early, Ziggy Stardust, and Thin White Duke periods; but it's pretty hit or miss after that. The less said about Tin Machine the better. That said, I'm also one of only 8 or 9 people in the whole world who actually liked Outside
, and wish he had finished the trilogy.
When I go back and review what I like and dislike in music (or, not even dislike, but more how I grade the degree of how much I like this or that music), it turns out that the music I like the most has to have some sort of emotional hook. It has to grab me emotionally in some way. This is usually accomplished via harmonic means. This is why I find virtually all of today's top-40 music to be so uninspired and boring -- there is essentially no harmony in it. Just to take one random example, here is a piece of music that was a big hit that just blows me away every time I hear it. This song pushes every one of my musical buttons.
CSN/CSNY is one of my absolute favorite bands for their vocal harmonies. Just incredible. The Eagles during the Bernie Leadon period does close to the same for me (not as big a fan of the Joe Walsh period, 'cause it went more hard rock and lost some of the vocal complexity). And, of course Queen. Freddie is one of the greatest rock vocalists of all time.
I can listen to any post-Invasion-period Beatles album on repeat as well, pretty much everything from Revolver
onward. Love their earlier albums as well, but not as consistently, and some of it it just "meh" for me. Same with Steely Dan's Aja
; although with the rest of their albums there are songs I really like, and songs that leave me indifferent.