Improvised techno anyone?

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Improvised techno anyone?

Post by radiokoala » Tue Sep 23, 2014 7:53 am

Hey guys, a quick question.

The situation is, I'm playing techno all from scratch live.

That comes as far as no patterns recalled, all melodies played live and looped, beats programmed in real time etc. Never anything prepared.

Now the question is... Does anyone else in the world do something like that?

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Post by marcn » Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:07 am

On the modular?

Look for Steevio around here, he does an awesome set pretty much all improvised I believe.

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Post by meatbeatz » Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:09 am

yes!

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Post by radiokoala » Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:22 am

Yup! Thanks :party:

Not necessarily modular, tho.

I personally perform with korg gear: volca bundle & monotribe.

So anything otb. :sb:
Witness 60 minutes of audio-visual industrial psy-techno
jam-offering (and press like so this wipes away minecraft
videos clean from the trends and we get to see
some proper rave action there, FINALLY):

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/ My electro-rap debut!! (video)
/ Analog & modular videos
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Post by flo » Tue Sep 23, 2014 9:16 am

I've done it for ca. a year or so, had a lot of good gigs. Has advantages and disadvantages...

Usually I'd just take my skiff and two drum machines (some combination of 606, 707, 808, 909). Then squeeze a bassline and lead out of the skiff (using René and an Acidlab bassline as a sequencer). Plus some kind of poly, often a DX100. Good fun, but a bit more stressful than prepared sets...

Here are a couple of livesets done this way:

http://soundcloud.com/contracommunemopi ... nft-zurich

http://soundcloud.com/contracommunemopi ... t-boschbar

http://soundcloud.com/contracommunemopi ... mei-310514

https://soundcloud.com/contracommunemop ... nft-zurich

https://soundcloud.com/contracommunemop ... t-boschbar

https://soundcloud.com/contracommunemop ... mei-310514

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Post by paperCUT » Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:01 am

I used to play with 2 tr-505's, one feeding a DrumStation and the other feeding a DR-660 or an old SDS drum module. Drum parts were split into 2, 8 part sequences with fewer or more drum parts added. On top of that the drums were spread out across the mixer so muting was easy, whole changes in pattern were just as easy. Hit the button to change sequence before the end of the bar and you have time to mute other stuff.

Melodies were handled by a Q-80, pre-programmed loops ranging from 16 steps up to 64 steps. All Q-80 loops were fed to all synths (DX-27, S-612, MC202, DW6000, SDE expander and a few DIY synths).

While the loops were pre-programmed the sounds and which Midi channel they followed was all done live. Took a ton of practice and expert knowledge of the gear but it always gave me a place to go if that cutoff solo on the 202 went off track :hihi:

On top of that I had a CD walkman with some long vocal samples burned onto CD. They could be played non-tempo synced and covered with tons of delay and reverb, muted and soloed at will.

Ahhhh the good old days :bananaguitar:

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Post by meska » Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:13 am

i use modulare for live tekno from scratch !
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Post by jak » Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:18 am

used to do that with a friend, beats on the maschine and everything else with synths into ableton, nothing prepared. A lot of fun, but too stressful because we always had one of us just doing the beats.

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Post by paperCUT » Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:27 am

One of the best live artists I've ever seen is an Aussie guy called Voiteck. http://www.discogs.com/Voiteck-Live-At- ... ter/409602

He never made it big but the Live At Your Mama's album is stunning for live work. Soul destroying control of samplers and old synths. All live, saw him twice in one weekend and it made me question why I'm here on this planet :zombie:

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Post by tuj » Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:23 pm

I used to know a dude who did this with two Yamaha DJX keyboards.

Seriously. And it didn't suck.

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Post by flo » Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:46 pm

That's way more hardcore than with a modular :hail: :hihi:

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Post by tony d » Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:46 pm

Sure.Every weekend me and my buddy get together and jam like this for a few hours.You can check out excerpts of some of those sessions in my sig if your interested.

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Post by limpmeat » Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:50 am

paperCUT wrote:One of the best live artists I've ever seen is an Aussie guy called Voiteck. http://www.discogs.com/Voiteck-Live-At- ... ter/409602

He never made it big but the Live At Your Mama's album is stunning for live work. Soul destroying control of samplers and old synths. All live, saw him twice in one weekend and it made me question why I'm here on this planet :zombie:
Great to see Voiteck get a mention here :) seeing him live is what inspired me to get into producing and playing live.

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Post by Bonobo » Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:54 am

I'm aiming for this, the rack I'm planning is below. I'm about half way there now, but my only sequencer is the metropolis so drums are coming from the clock out of that for the kick and the clock out of the echophon for snares so I find it very hard to get past one rhythm.

I really love it so far though, any thoughts on the best technique/must have modules or tips would be really appreciated.


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Post by Paradigm X » Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:23 pm

yup, thats i / we do these days, love it.

more acid than techno, 909, 2x x0xb0x, tm3030 ax73 lots of fx, loving it at the moment.

loads to listen to and download on our soundcloud

http://soundcloud.com/lahj

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Post by Steevio » Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:16 am

yeah i do that with a modular, but to be fair there's lots of musicians all over the world that do it with other types of hardware and have done since the 1980s, and its a growing trend right now.

i started all hardware gigging in 1992, and back then there was lots of guys doing it in the UK.

doing it with a modular is hard work and quite scary, but definitely worth it, i get a lot of creative satisfaction that i never experienced when i was using a midi sequencer, drum machines / synths with planned out sets.

here's a few vids from the last 4 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxWpP_HsxS8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvbplNHZzGU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8tW67_vufM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFt82mLHxWA

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Post by komputerbrown » Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:31 pm

sure! nothing prepared, no computer, no midi, no keyboard, just the sequencers on the serge and drum machines
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Post by ikkini » Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:36 pm

Yes Id do it also with my band FUTUR and alone (but when I play alone, my drums are pre-programmed on the Trigger Riot) :

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Post by SpecG » Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:54 pm

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Post by lotri22 » Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:59 am

Guys what do you think, how much of the music can be handled by one guy if performed completely live? Making stuff from scratch, one can end up with a genius track or to be lost in complete mess. When I jam, I'm always enjoying the moment of creation,but when I listen back to these recorded jams it is different experience..Creator vs Consumer experience of the same stuff.
I'm too busy with running my construction business but if I have some free time for jamming the minimal setup for my sound experiments looks like:

TR8 / rhythm -> Tenori On / melody -> Vermona Perfourmer MK2
Mixed / Effects in Korg Zero 4
Recorded in Korg minikaoss pad2

Sometimes I do employ ableton as a sampler or numerology for crazier sequences.
The Perfourmer is a techno beast on its own, I could be lost in sound just with it and maybe the Zero 4 mixer. 4 powerful synth voices vs 4 powerful individual effect chains, all midi sync able
I feel like this is maximum of an instrument I can handle as a whole.

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Post by waves_of_awesome » Wed Dec 31, 2014 3:07 pm

I do a totally improvised techno/acid set solo- Here's a recording of a live set from a few months ago:

http://www.soundcloud.com/lonedancer/li ... ty-8-23-14

https://soundcloud.com/lonedancer/live- ... ty-8-23-14

This one is a 9u eurorack system + roland tr8 into a little mackie vlz4 mixer, but for my future gigs I'm planning on going fully eurorack.
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Post by Steevio » Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:38 pm

lotri22 wrote:Guys what do you think, how much of the music can be handled by one guy if performed completely live? Making stuff from scratch, one can end up with a genius track or to be lost in complete mess. When I jam, I'm always enjoying the moment of creation,but when I listen back to these recorded jams it is different experience..Creator vs Consumer experience of the same stuff.
its just practice bro, then eventually the two become one and the same.

it is totally possible for one guy to do it all.

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Post by dillajay » Tue May 19, 2015 1:09 am

Have a look at some of PATRICIAs live stuff.

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Post by echoplex » Tue May 19, 2015 3:20 am

check out my IG .. lots of modular live impro techno

https://instagram.com/desroi_/

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Post by dillajay » Tue May 19, 2015 3:38 am

I can also vouch for Echoplex's stuff. Been following his instagram for while now haha

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