Hi there, was checking this amazing set by KFW
I've got most of what he has: bunch of dixies, uscale, mutagen, hexvca and built 3 analog shift registers from Elby. Now I'm trying to figure it out.
Put some LFO into a scale/offset to control the pitch then to the uscale, to the ASR (with an external clock) then out to dixies and VCA from anothrt clock (different one). Still seems quite amazing what he gets there. Seems almost like sequences repeating more than LFO as source. He gets some amazing repetitive pattern. And seems like he has some pauses also while my clock keeps on stressing every beat.
I'm new into this so maybe I miss some interesting detail. Seems to me maybe the LFO can be more complicated. Maybe using the pingable envelope generator i can draw better the shape of my pitches and keep a ratio with the clocks to achieve repeating patterns? Anyone with experience in canons can tell me some tricks?
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you absolutely have the foundation of this patch correct i believe - i'm not familiar with KFW's exact patch, but for variation i would just consider mixing that LFO with other sorts of CV & noise - i think MI Frames would be a great tool for this purpose.
as for interesting clocks, just rotate the clocks with something like the RCD, or use logic to create more interesting patterns out of straight clock divider outputs and you'll come up with plenty of interesting patterns.
question: when you feed the ASRs with the quantizer, does any kind of perceptible pitch drift or variation in the output get introduced? some S&H's droop quite a bit, just wondered if analog ASR's do the same thing (i assume the elby is analog...). have only ever used digital models, quantimator mostly.
as for interesting clocks, just rotate the clocks with something like the RCD, or use logic to create more interesting patterns out of straight clock divider outputs and you'll come up with plenty of interesting patterns.
question: when you feed the ASRs with the quantizer, does any kind of perceptible pitch drift or variation in the output get introduced? some S&H's droop quite a bit, just wondered if analog ASR's do the same thing (i assume the elby is analog...). have only ever used digital models, quantimator mostly.
Hey; just noticed this thread - I'll give you a short rundown of the basics of the generator patch:
free running clock into trigger of s&h
rising or triangle lfo into sample input of s&h
output of s&h into offset / attenuator
output of offset attenuator into quantizer
output of quantizer into asr / clock into asr
each output of asr into 1v/oct input of different oscillators
the trick is to get the timing & phase of the clock & lfo to sort of "play" off of each other - i like timing the lfo's duty cycle slightly slower than two "clocks" - then speeding it up & slowing it down by hand until they just slightly go out of phase - then the lfo is sampled maybe 3 times on the first cycle, twice on the second. you can use the offset / attenuator to bring in the melody a few notes at a time, then keep adding & embellishing.
i'd been using those plan b asr's for years & they still work beautifully, but recently i switched to a quantimator, which has a dedicated transpose input & is both a quantizer & an asr - at the sacrifice of the fourth tap.
hope that helps!
free running clock into trigger of s&h
rising or triangle lfo into sample input of s&h
output of s&h into offset / attenuator
output of offset attenuator into quantizer
output of quantizer into asr / clock into asr
each output of asr into 1v/oct input of different oscillators
the trick is to get the timing & phase of the clock & lfo to sort of "play" off of each other - i like timing the lfo's duty cycle slightly slower than two "clocks" - then speeding it up & slowing it down by hand until they just slightly go out of phase - then the lfo is sampled maybe 3 times on the first cycle, twice on the second. you can use the offset / attenuator to bring in the melody a few notes at a time, then keep adding & embellishing.
i'd been using those plan b asr's for years & they still work beautifully, but recently i switched to a quantimator, which has a dedicated transpose input & is both a quantizer & an asr - at the sacrifice of the fourth tap.
hope that helps!
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