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Post by soundmachines » Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:44 pm

Anddd... It works!!!! Expect some videos soon... :))
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Post by Paranormal Patroler » Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:50 pm

YESH!
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Post by stainers » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:27 pm

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Post by soundmachines » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:07 am

Ok some more info, still had no time to record something with my camcorder...

The thing is FUN!
I played with an iPod as the audio in (some weird Bjiork stuff :)) and I just connected my MAQ16 sequencer gate outs to the REC and PLAY...
Instant audio mangling! and I still don't have control on the sampling freq (next week, guys).
I decided to put a small micro in it for two reasons:
-I need to modify the REC trigger signal
-It's the only way of managing the sample freq without using a vactrol
-I decided to put there the CV recording facility, just because I/Os and components were already there...

So, as long as soundmachines uses stereo jacks, what do you think about putting the CV along with the AUDIO in and outs on the same jack????
I thought about this in the case that Y-cables for the inserts existed also in 3.5mm flavour :)

Could be this way OR having an expansion panel (also 4hp) (the connector is already there!) that could carry the CV in, CV out jacks as other amenities, like:

-buttons to choose manually one out of eight samples slots
-cv in to choose one out of eight samples slot

OR alternatively (this is really a firmware and panel design question)

-CV for starting sample (from 1 to 8)
-CV for ending sample (from 1 to 8)

At the highest sampling frequency this will go near 'granular' stuff as much as it can....

Ok, have a nice weekend. I'll keep designing.....

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Post by soundmachines » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:11 am

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DonKartofflo wrote: plus one! a small, inexpensive audio recorder is such a cool thing! For CVs, we have plenty of great and full featured stuff.

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Post by Paranormal Patroler » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:52 pm

No Y-cables. :confused:
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Post by mmelnick » Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:03 pm

i want that sampler module right now
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Post by kimu » Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:50 am

+1 for avoiding Y cables.
Keep it simple, cheap and fun!
Maybe two versions? uLooper audio and uLooper cv?

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Post by soundmachines » Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:07 am

As I close some signal-path quality issues, I will just finish the final schematic...

No Y-cables :tu:
Expansion connector for: "8 slots pseudo slicer" with CV control of the slot CVin CVout for recording (8bit reso).
The expansion will be a PASSIVE panel, also 4hp!

From today to the 7th of Jan in Italy everything stops (not my soldering iron, though...) so I could see a prototype run not before the end of February..

Price...... should be something well south of 100€... 80 could be possible...
I'll try to keep it cheaper as possible, with discounts for three units :)

Memory is NON VOLATILE so, as some other Wiggler pointed out, it could be used as a drum bank, and a lot of other stuff... :cloud:

Plan is to have some video made in the next days but I really don't know If I will have the time to do that...... :guinness:

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Post by Paranormal Patroler » Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:11 am

soundmachines wrote:I'll try to keep it cheaper as possible, with discounts for three units :)
:tu: Excellent practice. If it's as cool as I think I'm surely getting two!
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Post by Paranormal Patroler » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:45 pm

I recently found out that you have competition and I was totally eager to go and buy one of these http://gieskes.nl/eurorack/?file=voice-rec but I'm patiently trying to persuade myself to wait and see what the u-loop has to offer. Hopefully there won't be much clicking when recording, will there?

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Post by soundmachines » Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:39 am

Paranormal Patroler wrote:I recently found out that you have competition and I was totally eager to go and buy one of these http://gieskes.nl/eurorack/?file=voice-rec but I'm patiently trying to persuade myself to wait and see what the u-loop has to offer. Hopefully there won't be much clicking when recording, will there?

:hyper:
The base technology is the same (ISD, now Nuvoton, chips) but he uses a different family (18XX).
The pops and clicks are related also the the AGC function, that I disabled in my implementation. I am still playing with some parameters but there's room for improvement.
Nothing HiFi, anyway!

The main problem here is that now I DO WANT one motorized module for my synth!!!! :))))
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Post by burnn_out! » Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:02 am

Pretty excited for this, every time more details spill out my lust for it intensifies :hyper:
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Post by Paranormal Patroler » Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:32 am

soundmachines wrote: The base technology is the same (ISD, now Nuvoton, chips) but he uses a different family (18XX). The pops and clicks are related also the the AGC function, that I disabled in my implementation. I am still playing with some parameters but there's room for improvement.
Nothing HiFi, anyway! The main problem here is that now I DO WANT one motorized module for my synth!!!! :))))
Can you tell me more about the AGC function? I am certain the clicks will become quite irritating in some cases and that is the main reason I'm holding out for the uloop. If the pitch function is anything close to that video it's going to be a great module to own. The price range is similar after all.

He does have some great ideas, maybe you should hire him :hihi:
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Post by Paranormal Patroler » Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:13 am

I'm bumping this baby. :bump:
Any news on a small but powerful recording device?
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Post by stainers » Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:42 pm

Was just thinking yesterday this needs a bump.

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Post by soundmachines » Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:04 am

Consider me bumped!
Had to switch some efforts on the upcoming first product (robotto) and I did not closed the investigation on noise characteristic. I will redesign the audio path with some more 'filtering' and then make some sound samples. If that make sense and it's ok (far from hifi!) I will start the pcb design!

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Post by Paranormal Patroler » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:58 pm

How far from hifi is it?
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Post by taylor12k » Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:39 am

getting in on this thread. sign me up for a module!

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Post by Paranormal Patroler » Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:41 am

taylor12k wrote:getting in on this thread. sign me up for a module!
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Buy more and get a bundle price!
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Post by mapmap » Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:16 am

I want in on this too.
there is a major hole in the eurorack sampler/looper department.

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Post by Paranormal Patroler » Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:17 am

As far as samplers go you should check up the ADDAC101 line of wav players. Lots of functionality there!
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Post by taylor12k » Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:20 am

mapmap and i both have addacs... yes, very very good module.... just lacks realtime sampling

modcan cv record and tyme sefari ii seem like the best options at this point.
Paranormal Patroler wrote:As far as samplers go you should check up the ADDAC101 line of wav players. Lots of functionality there!

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Post by Paranormal Patroler » Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:30 am

As I mentioned in another thread the CV Record and the TSmkii are two modules with quite distinct functionalities; same thing goes for the ADDAC101 line. I can't see why someone would want real time recording and the ability to have multiple samples, from a single module. Don't take me wrong, such functionality would be amazing, but it would be way too much to ask from a module. I'd suggest getting a standalone sampler and a Doepfer CV-to-MIDI module. That way you can use your sampler to record stuff, chop it up and store it, while getting triggered by the modular system. One other product that might interest you is the EHX2880 looper or the new EHX4500 which can record stuff. Lot's of options!
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Post by taylor12k » Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:54 am

yeah, 3 or 4 looping pedals around here already (my 2880 is currently @ ehx being fixed). but the idea of a more compact system, space-wise and power-wise (ie: all eurorack) is enticing.

but certainly taking a looper pedal into an input module on the eurorack is an option. add the doepfer CV to MIDI and you can get some control over the looping functions of the eventide time factor via MIDI.
Paranormal Patroler wrote:As I mentioned in another thread the CV Record and the TSmkii are two modules with quite distinct functionalities; same thing goes for the ADDAC101 line. I can't see why someone would want real time recording and the ability to have multiple samples, from a single module. Don't take me wrong, such functionality would be amazing, but it would be way too much to ask from a module. I'd suggest getting a standalone sampler and a Doepfer CV-to-MIDI module. That way you can use your sampler to record stuff, chop it up and store it, while getting triggered by the modular system. One other product that might interest you is the EHX2880 looper or the new EHX4500 which can record stuff. Lot's of options!

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