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Post by exper » Fri Feb 07, 2014 1:49 pm

The little plastic washers that some modules come with are only a cosmetic feature. They prevent scratched panels.

The nuts can probably be replaced as well. Are they square or hex? The square are much better. They line up better inside the rails.
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Post by f33d » Fri Feb 07, 2014 1:53 pm

Mine are square.
damn those plastic washers cost 7€ 100pcs over here, crazy.

german word for "nut" is "mutter" = "mother".
flat square nuts are more exotic, but found them on ebay.

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Post by rampy » Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:59 pm

The Monorocket cases that Make Noise house their systems in use size 4-40 screws.

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Post by exper » Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:14 pm

Oh is that true? That's even harder to find then. I suppose when they make the full switch to the enclave cases, they will be m2.5, as that is what they use.
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Post by rampy » Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:07 pm

Yeah, they're a bitch to find in the length that is needed. There is a fastener supply store near my house, but they have a $25 minimum order. I can't see my system expanding THAT much!

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Post by Azure » Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:33 pm

f33d wrote:thanks!
Didn't know there are "2.5er" will get me some.
hmm they got only 10mm 2.5er here in our electro megastore

I suppose the nuts can also be replaced?

Is it advisable to use washers - or could some grounding problems appear?
Hey f33d
I'm not so sure the nuts can be easily replaced. I haven't held an Enclave case in my hands, so I haven't been able to measure the slot height. But, assuming Enclave uses Vector rails which have a slot height of .203 of an inch. The M3 square nuts (Din 562) with a height of .204 at the low end of the tolerance and .216 at the high end, will not fit unless modified.
Once I had purchased an Enclave case I was considering doing this modification to M3 nuts. Removing around .010 of an inch on two opposite sides. Not the easiest thing to do but not the hardest. I planned on using a piece of M3 all thread rod to thread multiple nuts on at once. Secure them in a vice and mill off the amount from one side, flip over and repeat. Anyway to remove that little bit of material would work. A file, Dremel, bench grinder.
Then again I'm not sure it's worth all the trouble.
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Post by f33d » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:38 am

rampy wrote:The Monorocket cases that Make Noise house their systems in use size 4-40 screws.
strange. can sb. show me a picture of 4-40 screws? what I found on the net looks like crazy alien screws.
I got no crazy alien screws:
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they seem like normal screws, which are a tad thinner than those m3's I got with non-make noise modules.

Does sb. know what kind of case that is - I got the old "new" 104hp shared system case. seems like monorocket M6104 "hot n dirty blonde"
http://www.noisebug.net/site/monorocket/index.cfm?ID=3
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with Make Noise Power Board instead of Monorocket's
& maybe other rails & screws?
could that be?
:help: I got a big screw-deficit!

I also heard from a fellow wiggler that schneiders doesn't import shared system because of the "bad electric components on the monorocket case".
Which finally aren't even from Monorocket.
Grapevine...?

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Post by Pogo » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:04 pm

f33d wrote:The strange problem: every screw from other company's modules is too big for the shared system...
Hello,
I found a similar problem when trying to install new modules into my System 1. I looked for suitable screws at the online stores about a day, and then wrote to Tony. So they kindly sent me a number of those screws at their own expense.

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Post by makenoise » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:16 pm

Hello, the case makers decide the screws. Right now we must stock 3 types of screws.

Drive Style
Phillips

Material Type
Stainless Steel

Head Style
Pan

Thread Style
Right Hand

Sizes
M3 6 for Deopfer
4-40 for MonoRocket
M2.5 6 for Enclave

I wish it were simpler, but everybody uses different ones.



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Post by rampy » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:25 pm

The head of the screw is going to look the same, provided that they are both Phillips (as pictured). 4-40, M2.5, etc refer to thread pitch.

http://www.wikihow.com/Read-a-Screw-Thread-Callout

http://www.zytrax.com/tech/mech/threads.htm

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Post by ZLAL » Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:01 pm

Has anyone ordered a system in recent months? I placed an order for a Shared System a few months ago and received a wait time of about 5 weeks out. Since then I've emailed a couple times with questions but haven't received a response. I'm certain things are busy with development and NAMM and whatnot but I'm not certain if there was some miscommunication or an email mixup or something.

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Post by modulargrey » Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:16 pm

They are around, I've talked to them. Though namm time is the busy time, so just email them again, maybe from a different address, just in case it's some technical glitch.

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Post by f33d » Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:21 pm

Meanwhile in Europe.... can't find "4-40" screws for my monorocket SS. Does sb. know how one calls them over here? Also what is the size of the 4-40's? It's serious guys. :help: I have loose modules up in my portable rack. THAT's what I call a real 1st world problem....

BC shipping SS: Yeah I got mine couple of weeks ago. The whole process took about 2-3 months though. Also because of winter holidays.

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Post by itege » Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:21 am

So, just to be sure, monorocket uses 4-40 right? I ordered some of that but ctrl-mod says I need M2.5 for vector rails with sliding nuts.

Edit: I've read the above, just wanna be sure.

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Post by 333 » Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:25 am

New to modular synth and this forum. Ordered a System Concrete and it is on it's way. This thread plays a part in influencing my choice!

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Post by 333 » Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:25 am

New to modular synth and this forum. Ordered a System Concrete and it is on it's way. This thread plays a part in influencing my choice!

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Post by GoneCaving » Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:29 pm

Joined the queue for a shared system today. With added ErbeVerb :bananaguitar:

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Post by ym2612 » Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:27 pm

Edit: nm, found my answer in the FAQ. Derp.

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