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Post by strangeowl » Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:44 pm

Does it have a filter unit already? Or does the EQ unit double as filter?

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Post by akrylik » Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:45 pm

mDang wrote:here's a quick demo with monome ansible : i use only a one-shot sample of mallet x 4 :

https://www.instagram.com/p/BNFL7DdAMjE/

ER301 is really easy too learn, i can't wait for the next update !
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Post by mDang » Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:37 am

Here's the patch :

there's 4 voices (4 sample players) with the same one-shot sample

a1,b1,c1d1 from Gate ansible to trig the sample
a2,b2,c2,d2 from cv ansible to the pitch input of the sample
a3 from math out2 to control the speed of the 4 voices
b3,c3,d3 from synthwerk fader to 3 vca level behind sample players
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Post by O|D » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:01 am

Tropic Al wrote:Here's another vid - all sounds coming from the ER301 apart from a touch of rings at the end..
Gradually working it out, got my head round programming in reversing samples today....

Holy moly, Al, that's beautiful.

Software-wise, there is really not much there yet but still all of you are doing such amazing stuff already! Really happy builder over here...

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Post by mDang » Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:27 am

here's a demo for a techno trax.... it's really basic but you can see how it's easy to make music with the ER ;)

i create 4 long wav with multiple sounds in it :

for exemple 1 kick trax with 64 differents kicks inside.
i put slices in that long wav to select fastly what sample i want.
all of it are saved in a mixer to save my preset as "kick box".
and so now when i need a kick, i just have to load a mixer unit, load my preset for kicks. and it's done !

and i did the same for chords samples, Hithat and toms ;)


https://www.instagram.com/p/BNHRejDApbF/

all is trigged by CR and sequenced by two A155 : chord slice and pitch, decay of the shaker, volume of the toms...)
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Post by Cortega » Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:51 am

mDang wrote:here's a demo for a techno trax.... it's really basic but you can see how it's easy to make music with the ER ;)

i create 4 long wav with multiple sounds in it :

for exemple 1 kick trax with 64 differents kicks inside.
i put slices in that long wav to select fastly what sample i want.
all of it are saved in a mixer to save my preset as "kick box".
and so now when i need a kick, i just have to load a mixer unit, load my preset for kicks. and it's done !

and i did the same for chords samples, Hithat and toms ;)


https://www.instagram.com/p/BNHRejDApbF/

all is trigged by CR and sequenced by two A155 : chord slice and pitch, decay of the shaker, volume of the toms...)



you can save and link a Samplechain to the standard Mixer Unit ?

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Post by mDang » Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:04 am

yes, the sampler unit is inside the mixer, there's aslo a vca (with an adsr inside vca). All units inside the mixer are saved with the preset.
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Post by O|D » Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:23 am

Cortega wrote:
mDang wrote:here's a demo for a techno trax.... it's really basic but you can see how it's easy to make music with the ER ;)

i create 4 long wav with multiple sounds in it :

for exemple 1 kick trax with 64 differents kicks inside.
i put slices in that long wav to select fastly what sample i want.
all of it are saved in a mixer to save my preset as "kick box".
and so now when i need a kick, i just have to load a mixer unit, load my preset for kicks. and it's done !

and i did the same for chords samples, Hithat and toms ;)


https://www.instagram.com/p/BNHRejDApbF/

all is trigged by CR and sequenced by two A155 : chord slice and pitch, decay of the shaker, volume of the toms...)



you can save and link a Samplechain to the standard Mixer Unit ?
There are chain presets and unit presets. The chain presets save all the units (and any of their sub-chains) that are in the chain. The chain preset load/save commands are in the header of the chain. The unit presets save the state of the unit along with any of its sub-chains. The unit preset load/save commands are in the unit's action view (although I will probably soon bring them out to the unit's header to be consistent with chains).

So in mDang's (excellent) example, he is saving a MIXER preset which is going to include the MIXER's sub-chain that is holding the SAMPLE PLAYER and VCA (as well as any sub-chains that are connected to those units and so on).

Like this:

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Post by mDang » Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:41 am

it's better with the right words and with this pic ;) hahaha !
it's exactly that ! you could add in your pic the sample himself in the sample player too ;)
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Post by leterell » Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:47 am

O|D wrote:
Cortega wrote:
mDang wrote:here's a demo for a techno trax.... it's really basic but you can see how it's easy to make music with the ER ;)

i create 4 long wav with multiple sounds in it :

for exemple 1 kick trax with 64 differents kicks inside.
i put slices in that long wav to select fastly what sample i want.
all of it are saved in a mixer to save my preset as "kick box".
and so now when i need a kick, i just have to load a mixer unit, load my preset for kicks. and it's done !

and i did the same for chords samples, Hithat and toms ;)


https://www.instagram.com/p/BNHRejDApbF/

all is trigged by CR and sequenced by two A155 : chord slice and pitch, decay of the shaker, volume of the toms...)



you can save and link a Samplechain to the standard Mixer Unit ?
There are chain presets and unit presets. The chain presets save all the units (and any of their sub-chains) that are in the chain. The chain preset load/save commands are in the header of the chain. The unit presets save the state of the unit along with any of its sub-chains. The unit preset load/save commands are in the unit's action view (although I will probably soon bring them out to the unit's header to be consistent with chains).

So in mDang's (excellent) example, he is saving a MIXER preset which is going to include the MIXER's sub-chain that is holding the SAMPLE PLAYER and VCA (as well as any sub-chains that are connected to those units and so on).

Like this:

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I assume the chain's units' presets are saved with the chain preset.
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Post by Daisuk » Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:05 pm

Tropic Al wrote:Here's another vid - all sounds coming from the ER301 apart from a touch of rings at the end..
Gradually working it out, got my head round programming in reversing samples today....

This is awesome! More, please! :omg: :yay:

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Post by guestt » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:36 pm

Excellent! Thanks for sharing everyone :)

Quite funny reading everyones posts about chains, it's like reading about Elektron gear all over again... I sold my A4 for the 101/102 ... am I going to end up selling my Octarack for the 301?

I vote that O|D is in the no. one spot to take up the mantle from where Elektron have apparently (carelessly and without so much as a mumble) dropped it!!

Brilliant!!

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Post by BlueWolfSe7en » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:51 pm

^ Yeah it's a shame the OT is at the end of development & that the Pickup machines (loopers),were never really sorted out. Brilliant machine tho, use it everyday!
Looper on the 301 looks wicked!!!
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Post by Tropic Al » Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:49 pm

Here's a test using the Quantizer unit.

There's no controls on the unit yet but it seems to be quantizing a LFO in some fashion!


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Post by mapmap » Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:57 pm

BlueWolfSe7en wrote:^ Yeah it's a shame the OT is at the end of development & that the Pickup machines (loopers),were never really sorted out. Brilliant machine tho, use it everyday!
Looper on the 301 looks wicked!!!
Agreed! I feel like they really dropped the ball on octatrack updates. The pickup machines have so much potential but still feel unfinished.

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Post by wiggler81929 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:21 pm

mapmap wrote:
BlueWolfSe7en wrote:^ Yeah it's a shame the OT is at the end of development & that the Pickup machines (loopers),were never really sorted out. Brilliant machine tho, use it everyday!
Looper on the 301 looks wicked!!!
Agreed! I feel like they really dropped the ball on octatrack updates. The pickup machines have so much potential but still feel unfinished.
Surprisingly, Elektron staff have specifically stated that the OT is still supported. They haven't said exactly what future updates will include, nor acknowledged several widely-known bugs. I've been considering an Octatrack for a long time as a companion to my modular and other outboard gear, but with the sudden arrival of the ER301 and other eurorack samplers/loopers, there are now worthy alternatives to consider...rack space permitting.

Elektron source:
Will there be major feature additions to the Octatrack at this point (5 years since release)
Highly unlikely.

Has Elektron stopped supporting the product?
No.

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Post by mDang » Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:35 am

Just to let you know, it wasn't clear for me so tried it this morning.
ER301 can be used with modulation out too.
i mean, for exemple, if you put a lfo in the input A1 and add a vca unit behind it (modulated by a sequencer for exemple), you'll have your modulated LFO on the output ;)
that's great ! cause you can use ER301 as a sort of matrix for your modulations too !
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Post by leterell » Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:49 am

mDang wrote:Just to let you know, it wasn't clear for me so tried it this morning.
ER301 can be used with modulation out too.
i mean, for exemple, if you put a lfo in the input A1 and add a vca unit behind it (modulated by a sequencer for exemple), you'll have your modulated LFO on the output ;)
that's great ! cause you can use ER301 as a sort of matrix for your modulations too !
And that allows for lfo units and so on i guess. Which is also awesome since my rack isnt that big! Earlier on i was trying to find out if the hardware means something with regard to d.c./a.c. coupling but wasnt able.
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Post by Tropic Al » Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:14 am

Here's a vid where I hooked up the wogglebug to trigger random samples that I loaded and modulate the pitch via the internal quantizer.


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Post by huffnPuff » Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:03 pm

leterell wrote:
mDang wrote:Just to let you know, it wasn't clear for me so tried it this morning.
ER301 can be used with modulation out too.
i mean, for exemple, if you put a lfo in the input A1 and add a vca unit behind it (modulated by a sequencer for exemple), you'll have your modulated LFO on the output ;)
that's great ! cause you can use ER301 as a sort of matrix for your modulations too !
And that allows for lfo units and so on i guess. Which is also awesome since my rack isnt that big! Earlier on i was trying to find out if the hardware means something with regard to d.c./a.c. coupling but wasnt able.
I thought those outputs were AC coupled? How slow were you going?

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Post by mwvm » Wed Nov 23, 2016 1:20 pm

Tropic Al wrote:Here's a vid where I hooked up the wogglebug to trigger random samples that I loaded and modulate the pitch via the internal quantizer.

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Post by jah_vengeance » Wed Nov 23, 2016 1:24 pm

Tropic Al wrote:Here's a vid where I hooked up the wogglebug to trigger random samples that I loaded and modulate the pitch via the internal quantizer.

Awesome - that's some excellent sounds there!

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Post by Marrak » Wed Nov 23, 2016 1:34 pm

Tropic Al that's awesome! Giving me more gas than I already had :ripbanana:

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Post by Chickenbone » Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:18 pm

I woke up to my roommate handing this to me and I don't think I'm sleeping anytime in the near future. At first I freaked out because it wouldn't power on but I realized that it was taking too much power from the +12 rail and switched it to take +5 and it worked. I updated the firmware and played around with simple chains all morning. I swear this single module pretty much makes half of my rig obsolete and I haven't even tried sampling yet. I'm now regretting that I have a job. Thanks O|D fo making such a crazy machine and fueling my addiction. Video to follow.
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Post by Neily2000 » Thu Nov 24, 2016 2:49 am

I seriously love this thing... and it's still in it's infancy with features.

One thing about no manual is just coming up with ways to use it. So far:

-Recorder
-4 voice poly oscillator using your own samples with built in ADSR/VCA on each voice
-up to 16 voice drum sampler
-sample looper
-sample mangler if triggered fast enough
-effects processor

and.. if you prep some CV controls and gate signals as wavs you could throw then in the looper and treat them as internal clock signals and CV stuff .. creating some fun havoc if you start modulating the speed of those files.

and of course - if you're running mono - you could have 4 completely different things happening simultaneously (i.e.: the poly osc. could be on output 1). With up to 12CV + 4 gate + 4 audio (which could be used for cv I'm guessing) - insane external control potential.

I've posted a bunch of videos to the Muffs FB page of various examples.

Lots of fun!

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