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Vast difference when using a 9v battery from a 12v psu

Post by GhostlyMostly » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:13 pm

Oh haaaaaaaaaaaaay :animal:
I just got a V2 Coco after selling my V1 and am in love all over again.
I noticed the 9v battery sounds waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay different from using a 12v psu. The 9v is less distorted and smooth, almost like I have a bunch of room to find the sweet spots. The 12v psu has way more drive and distorts easy in comparison... :hmm:

I am looking for a deal on 9v batteries because my preference lies there. Also I am looking for a 9v psu so I can achieve the same conditions without having to use batteries all the time.

Does anyone else prefer using heir Coco with 9v over the 12v? :sb: :hihi: :rastanana:
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Post by Hr.Jansen » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:55 pm

That's funny. I experienced the exact opposite with the Sidrax. I was at first really dissapointed with it until I bought a 12v power supply... The sound changed radically to the better. Would be great to hear other experiences!

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Post by chrisdermo » Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:26 am

My Tetrax gets really smooth and way less 'jagged' in the waveforms with a 9v battery, even moreso as it dies. I use either 12v for the intended sounds, or a 9v power supply with a voltage sag to tune in the 'smoothness' I want!
Weird that the coco gets less distorted with less volts, normally with delays its the other way round :mrgreen:

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Post by wednesdayayay » Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:48 am

for those who have a coco you know how the volume knob (at least in my mind) from off to straight up is regular volume and everything past that gives it that coco distortion?

it seems like the initial 0 to straight up portion is instead spread across the entire range of the knob

I believe it is about the same with the feedback knob

now this makes me want to go back and listen to the quantussy section of the coco on the 9v to see if it sounds more like the V1...
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Post by chorus7 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:07 pm

I wonder if this would work with my Cocolase as well :hmm: I would love to have a “cleaner” signal...

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Post by horaflora » Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:36 pm

Fyi, there do exist rechargeable 9v batteries, I use a couple to avoid buying tons

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Post by jimmie » Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:17 am

wednesdayayay wrote:for those who have a coco you know how the volume knob (at least in my mind) from off to straight up is regular volume and everything past that gives it that coco distortion?

it seems like the initial 0 to straight up portion is instead spread across the entire range of the knob

I believe it is about the same with the feedback knob

now this makes me want to go back and listen to the quantussy section of the coco on the 9v to see if it sounds more like the V1...
I get distortion on mine when more than 1 o'clock.

I've tried 9v battery (not new, so I don't think it's giving full 9v) first time with mine! It's very different. Of course the nature of the wave is the same but it behaves rather gently or mild - sorry for my luck of English ability :ripbanana: But anyway, it's very nice.

When I got PB2, I powered with a 9v battery and didn't get the snare sound, ever since I never thought about using 9v battery.

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Post by arnoux » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:10 am

IIRC using my COCO with a 9v battery have effect on pitch stability in the looped signal, the pitch of the loop decreases.
I don't have my COCO with me, sadly, to confirm.
To notice this try to input a single drone note or a sequence and mix the loop and the dry 50/50
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Post by arnoux » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:11 am

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Post by fluxmonkey » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:33 pm

in my experience, many ciat designs are very sensitive to power supply variations... even swapping between 2 different wallwart supplies rated at the same voltage will often sound different...
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Post by GhostlyMostly » Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:01 am

fluxmonkey wrote:in my experience, many ciat designs are very sensitive to power supply variations... even swapping between 2 different wallwart supplies rated at the same voltage will often sound different...
This is what I am learning with Peter's stuff over the years.
My Sidrax was different with a 9v and my Plumbutter snare was just a soft whisper. I love how the character of his instruments change with voltage variation. :hihi:
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Post by sb » Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:02 am

I've sometimes accidentally run my PB2 at 9v instead of 12v and it too is a different beast, often in a good way.

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Post by pugix » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:48 pm

sb wrote:I've sometimes accidentally run my PB2 at 9v instead of 12v and it too is a different beast, often in a good way.
I wonder how that can work, because I presume PB2 has a 9v regulator on board. Regulators usually like to have 3v or more above their output to work properly. But I guess it does. :hmm:
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Post by AK » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:04 pm

Can I ask what 12V supplies you are using? I have an old Sidrassi, which Peter shipped with a thrift-store appropriated power supply for a drill. I foolishly parted with it when I went to using a Godlyke to power my Sidrassi and multiple effect pedals. I'm now realizing that I've been under-powering my unit. Thanks for any help

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Post by GrantB » Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:41 am

AK wrote:Can I ask what 12V supplies you are using? I have an old Sidrassi, which Peter shipped with a thrift-store appropriated power supply for a drill. I foolishly parted with it when I went to using a Godlyke to power my Sidrassi and multiple effect pedals. I'm now realizing that I've been under-powering my unit. Thanks for any help
I got a used PB2 that came with a DA-36J12, works great. I bought another from Ebay to power my Rollz5.

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Post by indexofmetals » Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:54 pm

would something like this work with a coco2?

http://www.voodoolab.com/shop/index.php?cPath=22_24_40

I've just gone one from here on the forum earlier this week, after plenty of pestering from people who know how I like loopers and sound on sound, and it'd be ideal to power it from my strymon power supply.
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Post by jimmie » Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:33 am

indexofmetals wrote:would something like this work with a coco2?

http://www.voodoolab.com/shop/index.php?cPath=22_24_40

I've just gone one from here on the forum earlier this week, after plenty of pestering from people who know how I like loopers and sound on sound, and it'd be ideal to power it from my strymon power supply.
should be no problem.

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Post by dimeshow » Thu May 16, 2019 2:59 pm

indexofmetals wrote:would something like this work with a coco2?

http://www.voodoolab.com/shop/index.php?cPath=22_24_40

I've just gone one from here on the forum earlier this week, after plenty of pestering from people who know how I like loopers and sound on sound, and it'd be ideal to power it from my strymon power supply.
I'm a new PB2 owner and want to take mine on the road as well, have a similar 9V question - how did your combo work? I'd like to use

http://www.voodoolab.com/shop/index.php?cPath=22_24_40
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success or disaster?

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