Challenge: Morphagene vs Phonogene bake off

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Challenge: Morphagene vs Phonogene bake off

Post by StrangeAttraction » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:18 am

Hi,
In my quest to decide whether to get Phonogene (cheap, unique sound, easier to grasp) and Morphagene (twice as expensive, lots of possibilities, more hifi)..

I would like to propose a nice friendly challenge to those who own both modules:
Pick any sample (max length allowed for Phonogene, I think that's 4s or shorter), and create two pieces - one with Phonogene and the other with Morphagene. You can use other modules of course for modulation, processing, gating, etc, etc, if you'd like but just stick to using either PG or MG in a given piece. No mixing of the two allowed :)

Post the results here.

I'm interested to hear the end results, both just a comparison, but more importantly in terms of the different ways these modules will spark your creativity.

cheers

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Post by huron » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:03 am

Interesting idea. I have both and I used them in tandem in this piece I did for Nathan Moody. Morphagene into Phonogene.

https://nathanmoody.bandcamp.com/track/meditations

I'd be into creating two difference pieces using the same sample. Will post my results on Soundcloud in the near future.

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Post by brother32 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:31 am

For the record I prefer the phonogene (the whole less is more thing) but obviously the morphagene is far superior

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Post by StrangeAttraction » Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:36 pm

huron Brilliant! Looking forward to hearing what you'll come up with :)

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Post by gentle_attack » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:21 pm

Have Octatrack. Have Phonogene.

Really don't have interest in Morphagene. Seems WAY more complicated to master and I have so much other stuff I am trying to master first.
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Post by Jumbuktu » Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:27 am

The Morphagene is really just a stereo Phonogene with improved sound quality, much longer sample time and the ability to save and load multiple samples. It's not difficult to master - although you need to keep a reference card on hand to remember the button combinations. If you don't want to load or save, you can just use it like the Phonogene.

The longer sample time is the biggest improvement. It was difficult to get variety out of the few seconds available on the PG. I sold mine and kept just the MG, but they are both fun. Here are some examples of mine:

Phonogene

[soundcloud url="https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/15293 ... isual=true" /]

[soundcloud url="https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/15293 ... isual=true" /]

[soundcloud url="https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/15507 ... isual=true" /]

Morphagene

[soundcloud url="https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/32271 ... isual=true" /]

[soundcloud url="https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/32016 ... isual=true" /]

[soundcloud url="https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/31697 ... isual=true" /]

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Post by StrangeAttraction » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:25 am

Jumbuktu Lovely examples. Nicely done!

Dumbek loop is a standout for me. Such a deep tribal groove.

Overall, there's something missing in Morphagene pieces compared to Phonogene. Certain PG magic is gone... Dunno why... MG audio is more clear pristine etc. Perhaps the longer sampling time in MG naturally leads to the use of longer loops and as a result: slower pieces. I could definitely see a case for picking up both.

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Post by paranormind » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:17 am

I don't know if it's appropriate or not, please disregard if this is not what you asked. But I just recorded a jam during which I sent a simple pattern from my Cs-L into the Morphagene which is modulate in real-time. You can hear both the pattern and the morphed pattern thanks to a fast CV signal in the S.O.S. input.


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Post by StrangeAttraction » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:46 am

paranormind
Nice jam! It’d be awesome to hear the same jam but with phonogene but I realise it might not be common to have both.

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