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Post by nectarios » Thu May 16, 2019 11:58 pm

I was surprised at how much less than awesome as I expected, the dry outs of the TR-909, sounded.
TR-808 sounded much better straight out of the box.

Anyhow, both are at insane prices and are not worth half of the asking prices (for me), so if anything is going to go next to the Rytm, it will be a Behringer unit.

I love techno but I don't need an original 909/808.

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Post by Voltcontrol » Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:45 am

No remark on how long they'll expect it will take, but an interesting update:

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Post by dooj88 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:09 pm

i was just thinking about this the other day, wondering if they'd released it yet in the mountain of other stuff they're announced. i love the 909 sound, but i'm starting to think about looking at something a bit less niche, like a drumbrute or something. not in a hurry, so i'll wait to hear how this sounds.

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Re: BR-909

Post by rens » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:36 pm

I got tired of waiting and went tr-8s. Very fun and flexible. Sorted.

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Post by dooj88 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:40 pm

rens wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:36 pm
I got tired of waiting and went tr-8s. Very fun and flexible. Sorted.
pretty much what i thought was best when looking at current offerings.. though modal samples still has me intrigued. just not a lot of info on it compared to the cycles sound demos.

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Post by Red Electric Rainbow » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:16 pm

rens wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:36 pm
I got tired of waiting and went tr-8s. Very fun and flexible. Sorted.
TR8S is outstanding. it isn’t as versatile as an elektron unit, but its so good at what it does and most of the time thats all you really need.
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Post by gruebleengourd » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:57 pm

dooj88 wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:09 pm
i love the 909 sound, but i'm starting to think about looking at something a bit less niche, like a drumbrute or something. n
Why would you consider the 909 to be niche? And the drumbrute not?

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Post by Voltcontrol » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:59 pm

gruebleengourd wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:57 pm
dooj88 wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:09 pm
i love the 909 sound, but i'm starting to think about looking at something a bit less niche, like a drumbrute or something. n
Why would you consider the 909 to be niche? And the drumbrute not?
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Post by dooj88 » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:27 am

gruebleengourd wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:57 pm
dooj88 wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:09 pm
i love the 909 sound, but i'm starting to think about looking at something a bit less niche, like a drumbrute or something. n
Why would you consider the 909 to be niche? And the drumbrute not?
i don't know a lot about electronic music genres, much less their history, but aren't 909 sounds (especially the hats) associated with older styles.. deep house and iterative club friendly spin offs types like mr fingers? obviously the sounds aren't dated by any means, but there are machines out now with wider pallets. wider pallet = less niche in my book.

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Post by Chopper » Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:34 am

I believe the more appropriate term would be "cliche", but I get your point.

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Post by gruebleengourd » Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:31 pm

Chopper wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:34 am
I believe the more appropriate term would be "cliche", but I get your point.
If you've spent time with a 909, I think it would be evident that you can use it in many styles of music and program it to create a wide range of drum sounds. Of any classic non sampling drum machine it is probably the most flexible. It's certainly more flexible than a drumbrute...

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Post by dooj88 » Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:11 pm

gruebleengourd wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:31 pm
Chopper wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:34 am
I believe the more appropriate term would be "cliche", but I get your point.
If you've spent time with a 909, I think it would be evident that you can use it in many styles of music and program it to create a wide range of drum sounds. Of any classic non sampling drum machine it is probably the most flexible. It's certainly more flexible than a drumbrute...
it's not evident, because i haven't. they're quite expensive. i'm only going on what i've heard from famous examples. good to know though.

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Post by mor4sso » Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:27 pm

Chopper wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:34 am
I believe the more appropriate term would be "cliche", but I get your point.
lol why? because its sound is now historic and foundational?

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Post by dooj88 » Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:38 pm

mor4sso wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:27 pm
Chopper wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:34 am
I believe the more appropriate term would be "cliche", but I get your point.
lol why? because its sound is now historic and foundational?
certainly wasn't my intention to imply it's cliche, i really enjoy it. i've got a 909 hats module and i love the sound. just not clear on the machine's overall versatility vs other current offerings.

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Post by vadimred13 » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:48 pm

dooj88 wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:40 pm
pretty much what i thought was best when looking at current offerings.. though modal samples still has me intrigued. just not a lot of info on it compared to the cycles sound demos.
Model samples is great! IMO it's the best bang for your buck for a drum machine out there. I find myself spending more time with it than my other machines, just because it's so much fun to play. The only other machine that's as fun to play is the TR8s. Sure it's not as versatile as higher end machines, but those limitations don't bug me at all. Maybe if you're producing full tracks, this might not be the machine for you, but if you're like me and use it as a sketchpad or for jamming - it's an amazing piece of hardware.

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Post by Kattefjaes » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:57 pm

rens wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:36 pm
I got tired of waiting and went tr-8s. Very fun and flexible. Sorted.
Now they seem to have fixed some of the earlier firmware bugs where it dropped out if you moved more than a few controls at once, it looks like a really fun machine, for people who just want a no fucking around drum machine.

It looks like B are using the same basic firmware for their ersatz 808 and 909, I wouldn't be surprised if their 606 is running it too- presumably fixing the dodgy timing of the RD-8 is good news for all three if that's the case. I won't lie, as much as B makes you feel icky like McDonalds, the RD-6 is calling to me, to keep my dear little TD-3 company.

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Post by Chopper » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:40 am

That was kind of my point.... Gitane demone and skinny puppy for exemple used the 909, but we mostly know it and get links to techno-related outputs. Nothing wring at all with the 909 ( I used it to bits in the 90's), but a lot of its fanbase locks it into purely techno related territories...

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Post by Red Electric Rainbow » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:59 am

909s get a lot of love in the jacking community too.
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Post by jabberwalky » Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:40 am

Where's my Cr78 clone Behringer?
https://www.youtube.com/c/fortressofsound/ - Synth demos and other absurd nonsense

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Post by gruebleengourd » Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:12 am

Chopper wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:40 am
That was kind of my point.... Gitane demone and skinny puppy for exemple used the 909, but we mostly know it and get links to techno-related outputs. Nothing wring at all with the 909 ( I used it to bits in the 90's), but a lot of its fanbase locks it into purely techno related territories...
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It's just a really flexible drum machine with great programming features that can be played live like an instrument. Not many out there like that. There are examples in any genre that uses drum machines. I'm just trying to pick out virtuosic programming regardless of the genre. Derrick May is pretty much the top of the 909 programming... techno or not, and that sinister track hardly sounds like cliche techno programming.

It's pretty much got the best balance between sound, programming and performance of any drum machine before or since. I like the jomox machines too, but they are pretty much like 909s made more programmable, but less easy to program and perform on. Different balance. The tanzbar is also great, but small and cramped and programming it is a lot less straight forward. 808s of course, but much less flexible. Other pure drum machines might be cool for this or that, but don't really come close.
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Re: BR-909

Post by Kattefjaes » Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:26 am

gruebleengourd wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:12 am
It's just a really flexible drum machine with great programming features that can be played live like an instrument.
Jeff Mills wants a word about the "like" part:


jabberwalky wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:40 am
Where's my Cr78 clone Behringer?
TT-78 is pretty fun, if you're into that.

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Post by gruebleengourd » Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:50 am

Kattefjaes wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:26 am
Jeff Mills wants a word about the "like" part:
"as an instrument" would be better phrasing. lol

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