Best dual/quad lfo out right now?

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Post by Shledge » Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:09 am

Stages, 6 LFOs, all can be easily synced and CV controlled.

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Post by jpeterman » Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:17 pm

sutekina bipu-on wrote:Huge, huge shouts out go to the Doepfer slim quad LFO. I had the big Doepfer quad LFO (A-143-3) which was wonderful to use, and i have no complaints about it, except that it's a fatty and not the most economical use of hp.

If you're not worried about HP, doubt you can do better than the Doepfer A-143-4, it's just loaded up with features i don't think anything else can compete with.

The A-145-4 is the 4hp version of the A-143-3, and what i just replaced it with so i could stuff it in my skiff. True that it's a shame the A-145-4 only has square and triangle, but if i am gonna be honest, i think i patched up the sine outputs on my A-143-3 maybe a handful of times, whereas i had the triangles and square waves in constant use. So the A-145-4 really was totally fine for me.
You don't feel limited with the slim quad? Only square and triangle seems a tad limiting, although I like triangle usually.

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Post by sutekina bipu-on » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:43 pm

jpeterman wrote:
sutekina bipu-on wrote:Huge, huge shouts out go to the Doepfer slim quad LFO. I had the big Doepfer quad LFO (A-143-3) which was wonderful to use, and i have no complaints about it, except that it's a fatty and not the most economical use of hp.

If you're not worried about HP, doubt you can do better than the Doepfer A-143-4, it's just loaded up with features i don't think anything else can compete with.

The A-145-4 is the 4hp version of the A-143-3, and what i just replaced it with so i could stuff it in my skiff. True that it's a shame the A-145-4 only has square and triangle, but if i am gonna be honest, i think i patched up the sine outputs on my A-143-3 maybe a handful of times, whereas i had the triangles and square waves in constant use. So the A-145-4 really was totally fine for me.
You don't feel limited with the slim quad? Only square and triangle seems a tad limiting, although I like triangle usually.
I promise i don't. I did when i started using it, cause i was worried i didnt have as many options, and realized shortly after patching it up i was totally happy with just those 2 waveforms. It is a really good module.

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Post by Carl Licroy » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:02 pm

TINRS Wobbler is a lot of fun to use. The led arrays are very good visual help.

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Post by authorless » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:43 pm

The Doepfer A-143-4 is great. I bought two as soon as they were available. I mainly use triangle LFOs or squares for clocks, so not having saws was fine for me.
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Post by Ringo » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:35 am

sutekina bipu-on wrote:
If you're not worried about HP, doubt you can do better than the Doepfer A-143-4, it's just loaded up with features i don't think anything else can compete with.
The Doepfer A-143-4 is fantastic. It's also made for self-patching. 2x FM (one V/Oct, the other one with a dedicated attenuator) per LFO, ultraslow mode, VCO mode, reset/direction, plus that gorgeous master section that controls all 4 LFOs simultaneously. A thing of beauty.

I think that you can get saw/ramp waves if you ringmodulate tri out with square out from the same lfo.

Multing the square out to the FM in should modulate pulse width. Etc.

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Post by ggillon » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:46 am

sko87pro wrote:
ggillon wrote:eowave Zone Basses Fréquences for dual LFO
+1 for Eowave Dual BF, it made sense to me. It’s a dual VCLFO with sync and lots of shapes including sampled random.
Yes it's a really nice and staight to the point module. Only thing to note is that there no true sync, it's a reset so you must tweak the speed to achieve sync. Also if you plan to CV the speed you have to move a jumper and lose the reset.

But despite that I still love it and the fact it doubles as a noise source

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Post by gl1tchp-udding » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:41 am

base615 wrote:I love Batumi, but Klavis Twin Waves is phenomenal for clocked LFO.
+1 for Twin Waves. I use mine in LFO mode so often that I sometimes forget how amazing the VCOs are.

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Post by EdJ » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:53 am

Ringo wrote:
sutekina bipu-on wrote:
If you're not worried about HP, doubt you can do better than the Doepfer A-143-4, it's just loaded up with features i don't think anything else can compete with.
The Doepfer A-143-4 is fantastic. It's also made for self-patching. 2x FM (one V/Oct, the other one with a dedicated attenuator) per LFO, ultraslow mode, VCO mode, reset/direction, plus that gorgeous master section that controls all 4 LFOs simultaneously. A thing of beauty.

I think that you can get saw/ramp waves if you ringmodulate tri out with square out from the same lfo.

Multing the square out to the FM in should modulate pulse width. Etc.
OP: I don't have enough HP in my small case for an 18hp module
Forum: Well this 22HP one is fantastic

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(equally I agree the A-143-4 looks pretty awesome :party: )
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Re: Best dual/quad lfo out right now?

Post by Arneb » Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:40 pm

jpeterman wrote:Can never have too much modulation? Amirite?

I’ve got an elby utility lfo that’s pretty nice but too big for my small case.
So I’ve alrwsfy started looking at various lfos.

The doepfer stuff looks relatively good (A-145-4, which seems a bit limited too) and so does the MFB Dual LFO.

Looking for a bread and butter type module
NE Pons Asinorum is basically the West Coast's answer to the A-145-4, maybe it's worth a look.

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Post by artieTwelve » Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:46 pm

I've got an O&C I built and a Batumi. If you're into coding or want to be, then I suggest the O&C otherwise, the Batumi.

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Post by windspirit » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:15 pm

Big fan of tides v2 as well. I like the macro controls and I dont think Im smart enough for stages

You should also check out the erica octosource. Its deceptively simple but quite powerful. The waveshapes morph and the last wave is random so you have 8 random voltage generators with cv and you can ad some slew to them by blending in the next wave.

Id also really like to check out the tinrs wobbler.

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Post by michaeljohnson » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:47 pm

Abstract Data Octocontroller +1

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Post by nios » Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:09 pm

digidandy wrote:I have the Malekko Quad LFO on my short list, but now that no one mentions it in this thread I am getting worried! :|

Anyone have any experience with it?

Oh, and it will replace my Modcan Quad LFO, which died suddenly a while back. Still mourning. And no one can fix it. Makes you realize the fragility of it all (the eurorack scene, I mean).
I have this, at first I wasn't sure what to make of it and didn't touch it much but after I read up on how to use it and figured out the various button presses to get it to do what I wanted, it's actually fantastic. It isn't a module that's simple-enough that you can pretty much pop it in and get most of its functionality going in seconds by just looking at it (like Batumi). Once you do though it's extremely, extremely capable, one of those ones I actively feel bad that I haven't taken the time to really exploit in unique ways yet because it has a lot of potential depth to it with the automation recording. I feel that the upcoming Kermit will probably instantly be my favorite quad LFO but whatever, it isn't here yet, and will probably fill a different niche than the Malekko one i.e I'm not selling mine.

One big awesome plus with the Malekko one is it offers level control aka has basically a built-in VCA over amplitude of each LFO channel, which saves me the time/effort of having to attenuate that somewhere else and also can be moved in automated sequences. The speed adjustments are nice and functional; the thing goes into audio rate if you want no problem. The automated step-recorder is absolutely the killer app for it however; it advances in a loop with a clock input so very easily will shift to whatever LFO you want (or work as a psuedo-envelope if you move the phase around) per-note/beat etc.

However the module does have a couple oddities - there is no graphical indicator anywhere of your waveform selection on that fader, no notch indicating where you are; you just have to listen to know what it is and that's really annoying not being quite-sure you have what you wanted without putting it through an oscilloscope. They couldn't at least put in notches indicating where they change? Nothing? Ok then. Same goes for phases and the distort functions - you just kind of fumble around with those and your signal goes wild and unusable most of the time, until you eventually find what you had in mind and learn to generally keep the faders parked in certain spots for typical LFO duties. I'm also not sure if it's really a plus or not but the 'distort' function has always been near-useless to me - what does a bit-crushed LFO sound like? Turns out, garbled noise, same for a wavefolded LFO. Those are neat ideas but I haven't found applications for them yet, then again maybe I'm not thinking out of the box. It's far far more interesting a module to me than Batumi for example, but the UI is far from intuitive so be prepared for a learning curve with it. In short, if you have time to mess with it to your heart's content in the studio, it's probably not an issue and it's one of those sky's-the-limit type feelings. If you wanted to play live with it though, you had better have it carefully pre-programmed ahead of time and not plan on touching it much at all, because even a little slip on the distort can make a mess real quick.

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Post by Severed head » Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:56 pm

have we really gotten this far with out it being said...

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Post by Pighood » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:38 pm

Semprini? :eek:
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Post by digidandy » Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:54 am

Thanks for a *great* Malekko Quad LFO writeup, nios! Very helpful.
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Post by SB-SIX » Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:57 am

nios wrote:
digidandy wrote:I have the Malekko Quad LFO on my short list, but now that no one mentions it in this thread I am getting worried! :|

Anyone have any experience with it?

Oh, and it will replace my Modcan Quad LFO, which died suddenly a while back. Still mourning. And no one can fix it. Makes you realize the fragility of it all (the eurorack scene, I mean).
I have it in my rack now for a couple of months. I must say I really like it. Nois already gave a good description of it's shortcomings, although I don't think it's a very complex module to learn, but indeed is sometimes a little unpredictable to dial in exactly.
Love it that it saves its state inside a varigate 8+ pattern, automatically syncs to its clock, all without cables :). The built-in attenuator is golden (and can be sequenced). I use that so much that I wonder why other LFO's don't have that. I actually like the distortion feature to add a little randomness to the waves when used subtle, or sequence it to add a little distortion to 1 step.
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Post by Fabong » Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:50 am

Can vouch for the A-143-4, incredibly dense module which is currently the heart of my (admittedly small) system.
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Post by Kingnimrod » Fri Oct 04, 2019 1:51 pm

Modcan quad LFO still the king

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Post by nectarios » Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:46 am

Carl Licroy wrote:TINRS Wobbler is a lot of fun to use. The led arrays are very good visual help.
I love mine too but its one LFO.

From the ones I have:
1) 4MS PEG cause its super fast and easy to use
2) O+C for the complex shapes and logic
3) Batumi for the expert mode
4) Stages for quick set up and because you can have up to 6
5) Maths for un synced, wild LFO to audio rate and back, modulation.

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Post by Pighood » Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:35 am

nectarios wrote:
Carl Licroy wrote:TINRS Wobbler is a lot of fun to use. The led arrays are very good visual help.
I love mine too but its one LFO.

From the ones I have:
1) 4MS PEG cause its super fast and easy to use
2) O+C for the complex shapes and logic
3) Batumi for the expert mode
4) Stages for quick set up and because you can have up to 6
5) Maths for un synced, wild LFO to audio rate and back, modulation.
Nice grouping yo :love:
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Post by Flexyflier » Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:33 am

My favourite is the CESYG Dualfo......not a quad but very cool.....

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Post by digidandy » Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:09 am

Kingnimrod wrote:Modcan quad LFO still the king
But hasn't been available for ages, will not become available again, so an abdicated king, then. And not really relevant. ;)

And it can't be repaired ... :cry:
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Post by aphantomvaper » Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:50 am

I am using the NLC DIY 2xLFO. Two sets of Triangle and Square and separate + and - sweep. There are also a couple LED to indicate what's going on. Cheap and functional, but no comparison to some f the LFO juggernauts previously described.
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