Kermit mk III - coming soon

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Kermit mk III - coming soon

Post by mt3 » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:30 pm

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KERMIT MARK III - COMING SOON

4 Channel Wavetable Supermodulator

Each channel may operate as:
* LFO
* bass oscillator
* stepped/smooth/noise source
* or 1-shot envelope
* master tap tempo clock (channels may divide or multiply)
* amplitude control
* 1 axis waveform morphing (upload your own custom waveforms)
* mark III preset manager
and a number of deep parameters, CV assignment, and cross-modulation opportunities.

The OLED display shows all relevant frequencies, divisions, waveforms, and tempo without ambiguity.

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Post by robotopsy » Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:44 am

I absolutely need at least one !!!!!

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Post by temaniak » Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:53 am

Awesome! But i can't understand, how C & D oscs works?
A & B have full control, but C/D looks like very primitive. in the first info, they're positioned as additional limited oscillators. But now EACH channel can be LFO/osc/env etc.

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Post by jwm » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:31 am

very very stoked on this too. kermit mk3 is the last piece of the puzzle for this IME case i'm assembling. the idea of being able to draw my own envelope shapes in waveedit and feed this bad boy would be killer

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Post by Leverkusen » Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:30 am

temaniak wrote:Awesome! But i can't understand, how C & D oscs works?
A & B have full control, but C/D looks like very primitive. in the first info, they're positioned as additional limited oscillators. But now EACH channel can be LFO/osc/env etc.
Just from the panel I guess C & D can act as independent oscillators or envelopes and just share one trigger/gate/CV input (hopefully all three modes) to output either two related envelopes or one independent envelope and one independent oscillation. I think it's a design compromise to get as many flexible modulation sources as possible into one module.

It looks great to have so many so flexible LFO's packed together which also can be one shots and programmed in morphing presets. If now C&D could even get combined into one AR envelope with changing waveforms for rise and fall as it was in the first Double Andore, I would be in raptures.

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Post by nios » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:31 pm

It appears to have lost attenuverters for the CV in on oscs a/b, compared to the earlier prototype. Looks amazing nonetheless.

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Post by deltaAquarii » Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:13 am

great.finally!

but i would really have preferred the attenuverters for A and B as well...
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Post by Leverkusen » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:17 am

Yes - CV amount should be settable in software, though. At least as a workaround.

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Post by deltaAquarii » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:00 am

is there info if it will cover more octaves in audio rate compared to the old kermit?
just curious because i read "bass oscillator.."

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Post by governor blacksnake » Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:39 pm

You assign the CV amounts by holding down the rotary encoder button and turning the controls you'd like to assign the channel's CV input to (the display will show the destination and amount while this is happening). You can assign cross modulations by holding down another channel's selection button and turning the destination knob. These settings can be cleared in each channel menu. Channels C and D have limited controls and are best used for set-and-forget Big Knob modulations or additional tap tempo servitude, though with careful use of the preset manager they gain some more flexibility in performance.

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Post by dooj88 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:04 pm

o i am lusty for this one. any teasers to proffer, mr jaeger?

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Post by Voggg » Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:11 am

I have no space for it and was not interested in the first Kermit but this looks absolutely nuts.

12 hp? 10 I could maybe squeeze in somewhere but 12 is tough.

I'm curious how robust it will be as an envelope generator, what kind of modulation of envelopes will be possible.

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Post by dooj88 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 3:27 pm

Voggg wrote:I have no space for it and was not interested in the first Kermit but this looks absolutely nuts.

12 hp? 10 I could maybe squeeze in somewhere but 12 is tough.

I'm curious how robust it will be as an envelope generator, what kind of modulation of envelopes will be possible.
>implying there is a limit to the amount of modules or cases one should own

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Post by autopoiesis » Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:49 pm

governor blacksnake wrote:You assign the CV amounts by holding down the rotary encoder button and turning the controls you'd like to assign the channel's CV input to (the display will show the destination and amount while this is happening). You can assign cross modulations by holding down another channel's selection button and turning the destination knob. These settings can be cleared in each channel menu. Channels C and D have limited controls and are best used for set-and-forget Big Knob modulations or additional tap tempo servitude, though with careful use of the preset manager they gain some more flexibility in performance.
ah fuck yes, the prophet 12-style phantom modulation matrix is such a good way to go with multimodal CV inputs. this is how intellijel should have done it on their new function generator, IMO

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Post by mt3 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:02 am

autopoiesis wrote:ah fuck yes, the prophet 12-style phantom modulation matrix is such a good way to go with multimodal CV inputs. this is how intellijel should have done it on their new function generator, IMO
Could you elaborate on this? I'm aroused.
Link to video or manual or discussion?

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Post by autopoiesis » Mon Dec 02, 2019 2:40 am

from the p12 manual:

"The Prophet 12 provides a shortcut for modulation routing in the form of the Assign Mod Source and Assign Mod Destination buttons.
To assign modulation:
1. Press and hold assign moD soUrce.
2. Choose a source by turning its knob or pressing its button, or my
using a controller (pitch wheel, mod wheel, or touch slider).
The Modulation screen is displayed and that source is assigned to
the first available mod slot. Release assign moD soUrce.
3. Press and hold assign moD Destination.
4. Choose a destination by turning its knob or pressing its button.
That destination is assigned to the mod slot. Release assign moD Destination.
5. Use either the amoUnt knob or soft knob 3 to set the modulation amount."

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Post by mt3 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:42 am

autopoiesis wrote:from the p12 manual:

"The Prophet 12 provides a shortcut for modulation routing in the form of the Assign Mod Source and Assign Mod Destination buttons.
To assign modulation:
1. Press and hold assign moD soUrce.
2. Choose a source by turning its knob or pressing its button, or my
using a controller (pitch wheel, mod wheel, or touch slider).
The Modulation screen is displayed and that source is assigned to
the first available mod slot. Release assign moD soUrce.
3. Press and hold assign moD Destination.
4. Choose a destination by turning its knob or pressing its button.
That destination is assigned to the mod slot. Release assign moD Destination.
5. Use either the amoUnt knob or soft knob 3 to set the modulation amount."
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Post by Voggg » Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:09 pm

so the CV inputs are used for triggers in the one-shot envelope mode?

I assume 1-axis waveform morphing means it will hold 8 waves at a time?

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Post by jwm » Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:30 am

so i guess no kermits under the tree this year :despair:

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Post by Grava_RB » Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:51 pm

jwm wrote:so i guess no kermits under the tree this year :despair:
I was hoping for the same thing! :cry:

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Post by dooj88 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:27 pm

oooh, my kermie!

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Re: Kermit mk III - coming soon

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Re: Kermit mk III - coming soon

Post by Zerius » Thu Dec 26, 2019 4:25 am

How many presets can you save? Would love to try one once, it seems very flexible and useful to create diverses modulations and create subtle variations between all 4 outputs

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Re: Kermit mk III - coming soon

Post by lionel » Thu Dec 26, 2019 10:47 am

Nice,
Want to hear that !

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