FLUX - Temporal Modulation Rhythm Sequencer Launching Soon on Kickstarter

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Re: FLUX - Temporal Modulation Rhythm Sequencer Launching Soon on Kickstarter

Post by revoltcrews » Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:14 pm

following. sequencer looks quite interesting :sb:

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Re: FLUX - Temporal Modulation Rhythm Sequencer Launching Soon on Kickstarter

Post by lohacker » Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:50 pm

Congrats! Very cool concept, I'm definitely interested :tu:
My first impression is that 16 outs seems a lot to use them all, did you considered a small version with 8 for example?

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Re: FLUX - Temporal Modulation Rhythm Sequencer Launching Soon on Kickstarter

Post by bemushroomed » Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:46 pm

Can it vary the trigger volume (voltage) output? A real missed opportunity if it can't... because it's also a huge part (perhaps the biggest) of what creates the dynamics in drumming, especially if its supposed to sound human / organic and not mechanical.

I have two drum modules already that have trigger sensitive inputs + nord drum 2 (would be fantastic with this)... I bet in ~5 years it will be a standard in eurorack (should have been for ages, just like it is with MIDI).

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Post by cackland » Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:03 pm

Just out of curiosity... is the ARM Cortex-M7 embedded directly or via something like the Teensy 4.0?

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Post by Flux302 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:56 pm

Wow this looks REALLY interesting. I like what I’m hearing and the method of programming certainly looks like it’s easy to come up with happy accidents, on purpose .
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Re: FLUX - Temporal Modulation Rhythm Sequencer Launching Soon on Kickstarter

Post by Funky40 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:09 am

Funky40 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:13 pm
also would i like to hear more what sounds were used (soundcource) ( you just triggered samples in a sampler ? )
the answer was on their page:
All soundclips created by triggering single
hit percussion samples, no additional FX.
(Some samples have reverberation tails)
Modules used:
FLUX & Assimil8or only
bemushroomed wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:46 pm
Can it vary the trigger volume (voltage) output? A real missed opportunity if it can't...
+1000
i´m totally with you.

another funny "option" would be to create a "modulation signal" according to what should be a "velocity distribution courve".
so, not necessarily inclouding the velocity distribution directly to the triggers.
or even better: both, selectable
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Post by x2mirko » Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:44 am

Backed it. Another +1 on changing/modulating the trigger voltage if possible. Would be very helpful for some applications, although I don't think it's essential.

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Post by autopilote » Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:00 am

You got another backer! Looking forward :)

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Post by VCOscillator » Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:06 am

lohacker wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:50 pm
Congrats! Very cool concept, I'm definitely interested :tu:
My first impression is that 16 outs seems a lot to use them all, did you considered a small version with 8 for example?
Hi lohacker, thank you for the comments! A smaller version could be possible in the future. The idea with 16 outputs originally was to have 4 main channel outputs and 3 additional outputs per channel linked to the active rhythms so that you could patch the additional outputs to control things like drum hit velocity and timbre when sequencing percussion.
Funky40 wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:09 am
Funky40 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:13 pm
also would i like to hear more what sounds were used (soundcource) ( you just triggered samples in a sampler ? )
the answer was on their page:
All soundclips created by triggering single
hit percussion samples, no additional FX.
(Some samples have reverberation tails)
Modules used:
FLUX & Assimil8or only
bemushroomed wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:46 pm
Can it vary the trigger volume (voltage) output? A real missed opportunity if it can't...
+1000
i´m totally with you.

another funny "option" would be to create a "modulation signal" according to what should be a "velocity distribution courve".
so, not necessarily inclouding the velocity distribution directly to the triggers.
or even better: both, selectable
Thanks for the excellent comments. This was the idea with the 3 auxiliary outputs per channel, in testing I have been patching a main output to a Veils input then using the auxiliary outputs to accent hits every 2/3/4 triggers etc and to open filter cutoffs etc, this works well with the Assimil8or CV inputs also. I love the idea of variable voltage outputs, it is not in the current prototype but I will do some testing!
x2mirko wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:44 am
Backed it. Another +1 on changing/modulating the trigger voltage if possible. Would be very helpful for some applications, although I don't think it's essential.
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Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:00 am
You got another backer! Looking forward :)
Thank you very much x2mirko & autopilote, i really appreciate the support <3
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Post by Jaypee » Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:17 am

I'm about to pre-order it! Finally a great new concept on eurorack sequencer market.

edit :

Can the space between the gate be modulated to add some swing?

Like you would delay the 2nd and 4th gate on a 16th notes pattern.
Hope I'm clear. :help:

Then modulate the curve on that gate space can add even more swing!

I thought about this since a very long time.

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edit bis : I pre-ordered. Full support the original concept!
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Post by Modulus » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:33 am

Backed! That uber modded Lyra8 you made also looks quite nice! :eyes:

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Post by behndy » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:42 am

yahp. it's 4.41 AM here, backed, already 95% of the way to goal. NICE.
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Post by mdoudoroff » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:53 am

I really like a number of ideas in this module, but right now it feels like a playground unto itself, and I’m a bit bemused about how it will integrate into a larger patching process.

At the moment, the whole preset side of the project seems vague. Will you be able to switch presets with CV? Will you be able to cue a preset change to happen seamlessly at the end of a bar? How will all that sort of thing work?

None of the current examples appear to demonstrate external clocking. I see the paragraph about syncing to a DAW. That implies that two of the four inputs are now consumed with clock and reset, leaving only two inputs for CV. If I need another cv input just to switch presets (above, if that will even be an option) then I’m down to one lowly input for modulation. And what about start/stop?

This module is quite large, and a great deal of space seems to have been dedicated to the macro knobs, implying that playing those is a major part of the experience. I’m not seeing much of that in the demos, so I’m a bit unclear on their actual value or why four is the right number.
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Post by Funky40 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:09 am

VCOscillator wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:06 am
The idea with 16 outputs originally was to have 4 main channel outputs and 3 additional outputs per channel linked to the active rhythms so that you could patch the additional outputs to control things like drum hit velocity and timbre when sequencing percussion.
This Sounds supercool !!

yeah, not thought about that the module with 16 triggers is way more and thus way bigger than what i´d need.
Backed anyway. :party:

Yeah, i guess i would quasi never use more than 4 channels.........
having up to three additional CVs would be über-awesome. I really hope such things to happen ;)





hmmm, btw. one of my thoughts was to just patch several outs to a piano, hehe. Not shure how i´d manage the pitch though.
maybe with S&Hs + quantisers.........plus midi2CV.
( But if the moudule is yet not baked in stone ?.........you might be able to enhance it with inputs ? ....:hide: )
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Post by Tim Lairy » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:11 am

Yes, keen to hear if there’ll be a dedicated clock & reset input..
Very interested otherwise

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Post by Funky40 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:13 am

needs 2 backers more and we´re there


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Re: FLUX - Temporal Modulation Rhythm Sequencer Launching Soon on Kickstarter

Post by Kummer » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:19 am

a dedicated clock input and a reset input are a must for me. Personally I always use my hardware with a clock from Ableton Live to keep things synced. Could you clarify that this is possible??

Edit: Nevermind I checked the Kickstarter and I now see this is possible. really looking forward to this module! :party:

Edit 2: But yeah, which inputs would those be?
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Post by Jaypee » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:21 am

Let's hope he thought about an expander for more cv inputs.
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Post by Jaypee » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:23 am

August?.... Carpe diem carpe diem carpe diem.... :lol:
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Post by cackland » Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:46 pm

The kickstarter link in your original post is incorrect.

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Post by Ras Thavas » Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:01 pm

Does look very interesting, a really different approach.

I'm curious about a couple of things-

Can curves can be edited, or new ones loaded beyond the initial set of complex curves provided?

Presets- 12 seems limited for this unless they are they easy to quick reshape in practice. You've mentioned this can be expanded, can you speak to the certainty of expansion (also how many additional slots,) as well as preset expansion's position on the upgrade timeline?


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Post by Kummer » Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:41 pm

PLEASE address some of these questions before the early bird goes.
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Post by Jaypee » Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:42 pm

We need it on modulargrid now 8-)
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Post by mdoudoroff » Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:51 pm

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We need it on modulargrid now 8-)
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