Synthi A with external sequencers Vs AKS?

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Post by jfloftin » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:27 pm

papz wrote:
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Mine doesn't fit either, though.
But it's not a big problem as it's dead anyway :lol:

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Re: Synthi A with external sequencers Vs AKS?

Post by jfloftin » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:46 pm

Everyone needs to know that Thomas Lehn is the person who uses the KS best. When I saw Konk Pack on 10/11/13 in Chatanooga Tn he played it like a grand pianist. He tapped the side of the Spartanite case when quite parts were played and all sorts of gestures and such. Anyone on this forum that is even remotely interested in KS performance needs to see him play it and in particular in person.

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Post by papz » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:18 pm

I spoke with Thomas Lehn at his gig with John Butcher past Friday in Brussels, he was playing his brand new heavily heavily modded Synthi A (sooo many switches !) with Robin Wood's own KS that he kindly lent him because his was stolen with his Synthi a year ago.
No one plays the AKS like Thomas, he's a master.
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Re: Synthi A with external sequencers Vs AKS?

Post by sleestack808 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:09 pm

Analogue Systems could make a clone. They already did the heavy lifting. Just turn it into a keyboard that can fit in the case

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Post by ersatzplanet » Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:55 am

If you got the cash to spend, the modern remake of the classic EMS style sequencer can be found in the Analogue Systems RS-450 CV recorder. It functions the same way as the ESM sequencers but is made with newer technology, has much more memory, and can store sequences when powered off. Their description - "Multifunction cv recorder and sequencer that allows the user to record gates, triggers and voltages from external sources on 4 separate channels and store the results in 10 memory locations for precise recall of live performance. Can by used in Real Time mode ala EMS Synthi KS or Step Time Mode. Also the module allows the user to record audio and playback like a sampler. Control Voltage inputs for Start, Stop, Record and Rest/Reset, Seq Start, Seq End Transpose and Frequency. Dedicated Clock input and output Sockets." https://www.analoguesystems.co.uk/index ... ules/rs450

It is an Eurorack module but if you could easily make/buy a small case to make it stand alone. The voltages won't need conversion because it is a CV recorder and not a note recorder. The unit uses 3.5mm jacks so converters will be needed (especially if using the Jones connector). The main obstacle will be the price. Here in the USA the module cost $1300.
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Re: Synthi A with external sequencers Vs AKS?

Post by sleestack808 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:55 pm

Yeah, but it isn't blue and doesn't go in the case and look cool.

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Post by deltaphoenix » Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:09 pm

I know Arturia has done some dirty things in the relatively recent past. Despite that, I just bought a used MicroFreak to pair with my Synthi A via the Kenton 3x3.5mm to Cinch Jones cable.
Somewhat similar touch keyboard and sequencer. I got it for $235. I also am going to pair it with my small Buchla 200e system where it can substitute for a 218.

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Post by sleestack808 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:47 am

something like this would be something

http://www.chilton-computing.org.uk/acl ... 001.htm#c5

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Post by sanders » Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:42 am

I was using the Modcan eurorack Cv recorder with my Synthi for about a year to mimic the functionality of the KS sequencer (or what I imagine it must be like, never having played one); it works pretty well and functions close to the way I’d expect. You can record in a CV and Gate in “real-time” to a high speed internal clock (or concurrently recorded ext clock).

The main problem I had with the Modcan module is that it has no visual feedback to show you how much of the memory you’ve recorded onto. So you have to just estimate where to end your recording so that you can get a usable pattern out of it. It doesn’t automatically loop the playback at the end of your recording. You have to set an end point from within the entire buffer using a knob, but it feels very arbitrary without any visualization of the data.

It felt like a half-way finished module without these functions, and not very versatile. But fun and different never the less.

Although I’m not sure how these issues are resolved in the EMS and Analogue Systems digital recorders, maybe it’s the same. With this sort of note entry, it probably works much easier having a dedicated keyboard with start/stop buttons etc. Not so easy to do with a tiny eurorack module.

Its worth noting, the Orthogonal Devices Er-101 also has a real-time digital recorder/sequencer, and probably has many of the same features (and likely more) as the Analogue Systems module.

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Re: Synthi A with external sequencers Vs AKS?

Post by Lewis# » Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:59 am

Hi guys,
I would like to return to the original question:

I have a Synthi A MK2 - is it the same as with the MK1 that the power supply is insufficient to feed the KS, but sufficient to feed DK Keyboards?
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Post by papz » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:53 am

The Synthi A MK2 can power a KS. The joystick vertical range pot has a "sequencer" position clickable below 0.
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Post by Lewis# » Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:04 am

Thanks for prompt Reply!!! :yay:

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Post by papz » Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:09 am

You're welcome, now the hard part is to get the KS. :party:
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Post by pelican » Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:19 am

Yep, I really got lucky finding mine
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Post by askthedust » Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:45 pm

deltaphoenix wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:09 pm
I know Arturia has done some dirty things in the relatively recent past. Despite that, I just bought a used MicroFreak to pair with my Synthi A via the Kenton 3x3.5mm to Cinch Jones cable.
Somewhat similar touch keyboard and sequencer. I got it for $235. I also am going to pair it with my small Buchla 200e system where it can substitute for a 218.
I was thinking about getting a MicroFreak exactly for this, and replace my Futre Retro FR512.

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Re: Synthi A with external sequencers Vs AKS?

Post by MindMachine » Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:34 pm

askthedust wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:45 pm
deltaphoenix wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:09 pm
I know Arturia has done some dirty things in the relatively recent past. Despite that, I just bought a used MicroFreak to pair with my Synthi A via the Kenton 3x3.5mm to Cinch Jones cable.
Somewhat similar touch keyboard and sequencer. I got it for $235. I also am going to pair it with my small Buchla 200e system where it can substitute for a 218.
I was thinking about getting a MicroFreak exactly for this, and replace my Futre Retro FR512.
askthedust - what do you find lacking in the Future Retro FR512.

edit - I have the Kenton cable but forgot I had it. I think I'll truck into my newly acquired (and much admired) MicroFreak.
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Post by deltaphoenix » Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:08 am

Very cool, I have been enjoying the Synthi A/MicroFreak combo quite a bit.

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Post by MindMachine » Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:09 pm

deltaphoenix wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:08 am
Very cool, I have been enjoying the Synthi A/MicroFreak combo quite a bit.
Are you using one of the Kenton cables?
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Post by deltaphoenix » Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:50 am

MindMachine wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:09 pm
deltaphoenix wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:08 am
Very cool, I have been enjoying the Synthi A/MicroFreak combo quite a bit.
Are you using one of the Kenton cables?
Yes, it is working like a charm.

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Re: Synthi A with external sequencers Vs AKS?

Post by sleestack808 » Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:16 pm

Starting to think of buying an aks and selling the synthi just to get the KS. Sounds nuts but out might be the only way

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Post by MindMachine » Sat Mar 14, 2020 10:49 pm

sleestack808 wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:16 pm
Starting to think of buying an aks and selling the synthi just to get the KS. Sounds nuts but out might be the only way
No. Do the opposite and make a lot of your money back. It is a weird controller but it is not magic. I think of it as a module and not even a controller. Others may disagree.
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Re: Synthi A with external sequencers Vs AKS?

Post by papz » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:08 pm

MindMachine wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:19 pm
To be honest I haven't even fired the KS up in years. For as seldom as I used it I couldn't find a permanent place in my music room. It is an awkward unit to mount and play into physically.
Why don't you sell him your KS if you don't use it and he wants one so bad ? :party:
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Post by KSS » Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:08 pm

papz wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:08 pm
Why don't you sell him your KS if you don't use it and he wants one so bad ? :party:
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Post by sleestack808 » Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:48 pm

I can't afford a KS just yet.Trying to think outside the box on getting one in the future.
But it turns out if you have 5 grand people come out of the woodwork

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Post by mrfang » Thu May 07, 2020 12:57 pm

The new Make Noise 0-CTRL might pair nicely.

http://makenoisemusic.com/synthesizers/ohctrl
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