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Re: Behringer Pro-One

Post by beatkamp » Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:14 am

Thanks for letting me know about the slide thing. My KB37 has this function so I am not missing anything.

As for the KYBD OFF thing, it will work if you plug MIDI in, play a few notes, hit the switch a few times, then go back to CV/GATE only. Then it will work until the next power off. So there is something going on there.

Where would I submit this bug report? Do they have a bugzilla thing or is it just an email?

I am keeping this synth, I was just a little grumpy back there.
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Re: Behringer Pro-One

Post by 3hands » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:59 am

Red Electric Rainbow wrote:
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update: received it and i have to admit its a total beast. actually tempted to get another one for the price.
So for the price it’s worth getting? I may have to grab one! Just waiting for my TD-3 still!
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Re: Behringer Pro-One

Post by Red Electric Rainbow » Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:18 pm

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Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:59 am
So for the price it’s worth getting? I may have to grab one! Just waiting for my TD-3 still!
Definitely worth the price. An original costs way too much at this point and you never what kind of problems you’re gonna run into with one. The Behringer offers modern luxuries the original just can’t. Im not nostalgic enough to care about owning “the real thing” at all.

The TD-3 is also wicked. Super evil and juicy. Enjoy.
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Re: Behringer Pro-One

Post by 3hands » Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:26 pm

Red Electric Rainbow wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:18 pm
3hands wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:59 am
So for the price it’s worth getting? I may have to grab one! Just waiting for my TD-3 still!
Definitely worth the price. An original costs way too much at this point and you never what kind of problems you’re gonna run into with one. The Behringer offers modern luxuries the original just can’t. Im not nostalgic enough to care about owning “the real thing” at all.

The TD-3 is also wicked. Super evil and juicy. Enjoy.
Good point. I had one years ago but sold it (for 400 dollars in 1994.. ughhh), and miss the sound of it. My TD should be in today, and when it is, I will order the Pro one.

And thanks! Looking forward to seeing what I can get out of it!
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Re: Behringer Pro-One

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Re: Behringer Pro-One

Post by beatkamp » Sat Feb 15, 2020 7:00 pm

Serious question: what is the best way to report Pro-1 bugs to Behringer? Thanks.
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Re: Behringer Pro-One

Post by Chopper » Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:23 am

beatkamp wrote:
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Serious question: what is the best way to report Pro-1 bugs to Behringer? Thanks.
The music tribe/behringer forum . What bugs are you experiencing?

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Re: Behringer Pro-One

Post by Daisy » Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:20 am

beatkamp wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 7:00 pm
Serious question: what is the best way to report Pro-1 bugs to Behringer? Thanks.

Maybe contact Behringer :despair: And as above what bug are you reporting, be interesting to know?

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Re: Behringer Pro-One

Post by beatkamp » Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:29 pm

As I posted above, the two bugs I will report are:

Bug#1:
""under CV/Gate control the GLIDE function does not work at all! It works under MIDI control but not with CV/Gate."

Bug#2:
"under CV/Gate control you cannot disable keyboard control when using CV/Gate! Another massive bug. The switch does absolutely nothing.
KYBD OFF for OSCILLATOR B does not work"

I instantly ran into these and the gate trigger bug (which was fixed with the latest update. I am quite surprised that these were not massively noticed.
With the gate trigger bug fixed, the Pro-1 is barely useable by CV/Gate; I was just about to return the unit for a refund.
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Re: Behringer Pro-One

Post by Dragonaut » Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:35 pm

Pretty sure Bug#1 is not a bug at all but more of what you might call a -Missing Feature-.
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Re: Behringer Pro-One

Post by Chopper » Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:27 pm

Indeed. Some of what you call "bugs" are actually feature you might not fully understand... Disabling keyboard control (as in midi) when using cv would remove the possibility of FMing the oscillators for exemple ... Same
for glide under cv.... the function itself it connected to midi....

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Re: Behringer Pro-One

Post by beatkamp » Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:23 pm

Chopper wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:27 pm
Indeed. Some of what you call "bugs" are actually feature you might not fully understand... Disabling keyboard control (as in midi) when using cv would remove the possibility of FMing the oscillators for exemple ... Same
for glide under cv.... the function itself it connected to midi....
I am not clear on what you mean. Is this in reference to a real Pro-One? Did it behave differently with keyboard vs. CV/Gate control?
Its been a long time since I played a real Pro-One but I don't recall it working that way.

Glide not working under CV/Gate control would seem to be a bug. Why would it not?
It makes me wonder how it was implemented.

Also, KEYBD OFF for VCO2 under CV/Gate should work too and does not. I don't see why this function would disable FM'ing. It should simply disconnect VCO2 from the CV line.

I understand these features, I do not understand why they are not working under CV/Gate. This is why they are bugs.
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Re: Behringer Pro-One

Post by Gordon Cole » Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:07 am

"Keyboard" refers to everything entered via the MIDI input (since its a module, lacking an actual keyboard, the MIDI input replaces that). The cv and gate sections are separate to this. I can't speak to any vintage synth since I have not owned any of these classics, but all of the Behringer modules behave this way.

This isn't just a Behringer thing, I had a Microbrute and it was the same (glide doesn't work on cv input, only MIDI / actual keyboard). Not a bug its a feature bro.

In the case of your KEYBD OFF issue, I'm betting it stops that vco from tracking the MIDI input. So it is working as it should.

Only real finger to point here is at Behringer for not having more detailed manuals with multiple use cases explained.

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Re: Behringer Pro-One

Post by Dragonaut » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:06 am

I'm personally not at all surprised that glide doesn't work with CV. It's a 300 dollar analog synth made by Behringer. The glide must be implemented in a way that it would require more parts to slew the incoming CV signal. I wouldn't be surprised if the engineers also assumed that most people would be using a eurorack system to send CV in which case a slew is almost always close at hand.

When you reported your bugs, what was the response from Behringer?
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Re: Behringer Pro-One

Post by induktor » Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:09 am

Does glide work via CV on the original Pro One?

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Re: Behringer Pro-One

Post by LTodd » Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:23 pm

induktor wrote:
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Does glide work via CV on the original Pro One?
According to the manual, glide is attached to Keyboard cv on the original Pro One. So, doesn't seem like it would work via external cv.
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Re: Behringer Pro-One

Post by induktor » Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:31 pm

LTodd wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:23 pm
induktor wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:09 am
Does glide work via CV on the original Pro One?
According to the manual, glide is attached to Keyboard cv on the original Pro One. So, doesn't seem like it would work via external cv.

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It does appear to be the case which indicates that it's likely a feature not a bug on the Bro 1.

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Re: Behringer Pro-One

Post by beatkamp » Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:50 am

Ok, that settles the glide. Its not a bug, its just how it works. My KB37 has a fantastic glide function anyway so I am not losing anything.

This does not settle, however, being unable to switch off VCO2 control under CV/Gate.

I played around a little bit and it will start to work as expected with CV/Gate when a MIDI note is received.

Does this mean that something in the firmware is latching the correct 0V offset to VCO2 with MIDI? And not with CV/Gate?

Will raise this as a bug with Behringer this week.


induktor wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:31 pm
LTodd wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:23 pm
induktor wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:09 am
Does glide work via CV on the original Pro One?
According to the manual, glide is attached to Keyboard cv on the original Pro One. So, doesn't seem like it would work via external cv.

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It does appear to be the case which indicates that it's likely a feature not a bug on the Bro 1.
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Re: Behringer Pro-One

Post by kcearl » Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:18 am

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I wish they had a black version!

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Re: Behringer Pro-One

Post by Voltcontrol » Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:54 am

kcearl wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:18 am
beatkamp wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 5:54 pm
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I wish they had a black version!
Don't get why they haven't released it in black indeed.

The Bro-One needs to be black though, but painting it white to fit better with the KB-37 could be forgiven.
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Re: Behringer Pro-One

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Here's some Bro 1 and RD-8 multi tracked and mixed in Logic. The Behringer gear is doing about 80% of the sounds.

Such a bargain synth and sounds great. 8-)

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Re: Behringer Pro-One

Post by fattyparts » Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:15 am

does the clock in work as it should? sequencer runs tight?

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Re: Behringer Pro-One

Post by mhtones » Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:16 am

I tried searching this thread but couldn't find.

Can someone verify if their noise generator level seems low? My peak to peak noise signal is substantially whiter than the oscillators peak to peak when I hook it up to a scope.

Also, anyone notice an extremely hot input for the external input? I can't set the external input level above 1 without distorting the heck out of signal. Even from a line level signal.

Since the noise level and external input level are both controlled by the same pot, I'm wondering if mine has an issue or if this is just the nature of the Pro-1. I've never had the opportunity to play an original pro-one, so not sure if what I'm experiencing is just Behringer's authentic reproduction choice.

Would appreciate comments/confirmation. Thanks!

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