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Re: SSF zero point oscilator

Post by LunaticSound » Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:24 pm

Thanks, I appreciate it. I didn´t realize HOW crappy the recording was, for some reason the right channel is also muted... Well, I dropped my phone into a bowl of soup yesterday, that might be it. Haha.

The drums are indeed a real drum break timestretched with some samples on top.

All the stuff the melody line is doing is modulation of the ZPO and Filter FM of Ripples and the Dipole.

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Re: SSF zero point oscilator

Post by Mabuse » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:04 pm

as i can see the zpo and rubi side by side in your case... good pairing?
guess the zpo isnt as clean as the rubi but might add some grid…
what is your impression?

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Re: SSF zero point oscilator

Post by LunaticSound » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:45 pm

I am having a lot of fun over here indeed.

Well, I just uploaded my Rubi sine to your other thread, so I feel kinda dumb now, but still I feel like the Rubicon has a clean and orderly feeling to it, whereas the ZPO is a little more buzzy and I just love its saws. I don't feel the need for clean sines like you do, though, even if I see how they would be nice for demanding FM programming.

I bought the ZPO not because of anything it can do, in fact I am still trying to understand what exactly the Zero Point does, but just because it's sound really gave me the feels.

Right now I am using Rubi to modulate the ZPO mostly, but that is, cause the ZPO is new, I think. Another big plus for the ZPO is its Sync circuitry, which works great with any incoming material. The Rubi sync is a little more needy.

What really makes them a nice combo, is how they are very different. Together they give you many different styles of FM, wavefolding, an octave switch, wave morphing, great sync, many different waveforms, the symmetry and the ZeroPoint VCA.

I hope you guys don't mind if I attach the evolved version of this morning's patch:


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Re: SSF zero point oscilator

Post by Mabuse » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:22 pm

yo, fettes brett!
thanks for the demo.
as you already pointed out for fm purposes i do like clean sines because it opens up a different palette of sounds.
but that is just one aspect. mostly i combine different techniques. also adding wavshapers before feeding a sine into a vco for fm.
generally i like to have control over dirt,noise, distortion and decide by myself where (in my patch) and how much i want to add. peace

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Re: SSF zero point oscilator

Post by dulla » Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:49 pm

Hi does anyone know how to calibrate this unit? Many thanks!

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Post by Pighood » Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:10 pm

Just saw one in person for the first time...black....one of the prettiest modules I’ve ever seen.
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Re: SSF zero point oscilator

Post by guigui » Wed May 20, 2020 4:20 pm

I think I didn't understand something about ZPO. How many simultaneous outputs can I have with it? I mean, I can output A, B and morph at the same time?


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Re: SSF zero point oscilator

Post by Juvenal » Sat May 23, 2020 2:47 am

The raw tone of the ZPO is so beautiful to me, even before getting into the crunchy FM fun. Very rarely have I heard an oscillator that made me feel this way. I really enjoy the rough, organic and almost sandpapery textures that I can get without any effort! ZPO and Falistri are now best friends in my rack - best complex oscillator I've ever used.

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Re: SSF zero point oscilator

Post by tommygee » Sat May 23, 2020 3:23 am

Juvenal wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 2:47 am
The raw tone of the ZPO is so beautiful to me, even before getting into the crunchy FM fun. Very rarely have I heard an oscillator that made me feel this way. I really enjoy the rough, organic and almost sandpapery textures that I can get without any effort! ZPO and Falistri are now best friends in my rack - best complex oscillator I've ever used.
Interesting - what other VCO's do you have in your case/have you used before ? I'm considering the ZPO - but are worried that it will be to metallic for my taste. Already got a CS-L, that can go into the metallic territory (and other more warm places as well).

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Re: SSF zero point oscilator

Post by Juvenal » Sat May 23, 2020 4:14 am

tommygee wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 3:23 am
Juvenal wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 2:47 am
The raw tone of the ZPO is so beautiful to me, even before getting into the crunchy FM fun. Very rarely have I heard an oscillator that made me feel this way. I really enjoy the rough, organic and almost sandpapery textures that I can get without any effort! ZPO and Falistri are now best friends in my rack - best complex oscillator I've ever used.
Interesting - what other VCO's do you have in your case/have you used before ? I'm considering the ZPO - but are worried that it will be to metallic for my taste. Already got a CS-L, that can go into the metallic territory (and other more warm places as well).
I don't think the ZPO is that metallic - the CS-L does metallic in spades though and I've never really been impressed by the demos I've heard of it because it becomes aggressive in a way that doesn't appeal to me. ZPO can be aggressive, but the underlying character shines through and is really beautiful imo. There's a video on YouTube by 'Joey Blush' which demonstrates this: though it's getting pumped with some crazy modulation, it still has that rough texture that I love.

I've owned DPO and Verbos HO, both which I sold for different reasons. In my rack now the Falistri / ZPO is my only analog combo, alongside an E352 Cloud Terrarium and Manis Iteritas. ZPO perfectly fits the hole in my rack for rounded analog sounds, which can always easily become FM madness with a few knob turns.

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Re: SSF zero point oscilator

Post by tommygee » Sat May 23, 2020 4:55 am

Juvenal wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 4:14 am
tommygee wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 3:23 am
Juvenal wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 2:47 am
The raw tone of the ZPO is so beautiful to me, even before getting into the crunchy FM fun. Very rarely have I heard an oscillator that made me feel this way. I really enjoy the rough, organic and almost sandpapery textures that I can get without any effort! ZPO and Falistri are now best friends in my rack - best complex oscillator I've ever used.
Interesting - what other VCO's do you have in your case/have you used before ? I'm considering the ZPO - but are worried that it will be to metallic for my taste. Already got a CS-L, that can go into the metallic territory (and other more warm places as well).
I don't think the ZPO is that metallic - the CS-L does metallic in spades though and I've never really been impressed by the demos I've heard of it because it becomes aggressive in a way that doesn't appeal to me. ZPO can be aggressive, but the underlying character shines through and is really beautiful imo. There's a video on YouTube by 'Joey Blush' which demonstrates this: though it's getting pumped with some crazy modulation, it still has that rough texture that I love.

I've owned DPO and Verbos HO, both which I sold for different reasons. In my rack now the Falistri / ZPO is my only analog combo, alongside an E352 Cloud Terrarium and Manis Iteritas. ZPO perfectly fits the hole in my rack for rounded analog sounds, which can always easily become FM madness with a few knob turns.
Good info. Thanks.

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Re: SSF zero point oscilator

Post by BasariStudios » Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:34 pm

guigui wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 4:20 pm
I think I didn't understand something about ZPO. How many simultaneous outputs can I have with it? I mean, I can output A, B and morph at the same time?
You can have 11 simultaneous outputs.
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Re: SSF zero point oscilator

Post by boom blip » Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:08 pm

I don't have any analog oscillators but have been thinking about getting this and something like the Instruo Ts-l to make my own complex osc, any other oscillators or modules you would pair with this for a complex osc setup?


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Re: SSF zero point oscilator

Post by boom blip » Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:44 pm

NoLegs wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:32 pm
Some sort of wavefolder. I use an antimatter audio Crossfold.
I got a warps and shapeshifters fold circuit though that looks great

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Re: SSF zero point oscilator

Post by ishi » Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:01 pm

Juvenal wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 4:14 am
I've owned DPO and Verbos HO, both which I sold for different reasons.
I've been considering both for some time. Would be great to hear your experience and ponderings concerning these two...

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Re: SSF zero point oscilator

Post by boom blip » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:58 am

What oscillator are you guys pairing with the ZPO for modulation? I've got a shapeshifter I've been using but would like a small one to pair this with, been thinking about the Sinc Iter as well as Instruo's Ts-L, anyone got a combo they really love?

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Post by NoLegs » Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:12 am

Sinc Iter would be perfect, huge range so you could easily use it for LFO modulation. The noise option would be fun too. I miss mine.

I use a sine wave from one channel of the Stereo Dipole a lot of the time. I also have a 2hp VCO that I use pretty frequently.

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Re: SSF zero point oscilator

Post by daphnid » Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:14 am

Dixie 2+ is a winner as a mod/secondary VCO. Incredibly precise, has sync and flip, pwm, linear and exponential fm, a subosc, 5 simultaneous waveforms, lfo mode, and an octave switch, all in 8hp. I use it with my Shapeshifter all the time.

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Re: SSF zero point oscilator

Post by boom blip » Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:12 am

NoLegs wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:12 am
Sinc Iter would be perfect, huge range so you could easily use it for LFO modulation. The noise option would be fun too. I miss mine.

I use a sine wave from one channel of the Stereo Dipole a lot of the time. I also have a 2hp VCO that I use pretty frequently.
I have a f*** ton of lfo and other modulation sources, more looking for audio range modulation, more than anything I need (relatively) small hp and sync, trying to talk myself out of getting a second ZPO >.<

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Re: SSF zero point oscilator

Post by boom blip » Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:13 am

edit: whoops double post and I can't figure out how to delete

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Post by NoLegs » Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:54 am

Yeah it’s still a great full featured oscillator at that size even if you’re not looking for LFO stuff. The phase cv input is fun too. Can’t really think of a better oscillator in 4hp.

WMD/SSF Spectrum is solid if you’re willing to go a little bigger.

Of course a second ZPO would be awesome.

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Re: SSF zero point oscilator

Post by davidjames » Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:21 pm

My ZPO is flanked by a Verbos Harmonic Osc and an Addac 701 rev2.
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Re: SSF zero point oscilator

Post by Funky40 » Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:50 am

wavetables work perfect as a modulation source.
LFO or audio rate.
patch wavetables into the PWM, and experiment with going into the boarderline territory with your settings PW vs. PWM,
so that the pulse gets so narrow that it cancels the sound out.
there is a nice field of experimentation to have

edit: the modulator has to have a sync input, ofcourse
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