Ah yeah you’re totally right, I thought there was more mention of mic influence earlier on. Having said that, I’d wager he’d still hear a difference between the two units with all other variables accounted for, granted a significantly more subtle one.hsosdrum wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:11 pmI was responding to a post where lionel was commenting that "I heard à différence when recording Trumpet into my RME UCX rather than into my old presonus ! But I changed my mic at the same Time too..."Michael O. wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:32 pm+
It goes without saying that altering the source, or the mic and its position, will have a significant impact on the sound, but that’s not the question at hand and that fact does not preclude the fact that different converters do indeed impart (often subtle, yet entirely perceptible) coloration.
When you change a mic and a piece of electronics at the same time and hear a difference, it goes without saying that the cause of almost all the sonic difference is the mic.
It has been a while since my school days, but the generally accepted and best theory (at least at the time) is that all perception is of discrete snippets as opposed to a continuous flow of consciousness. In other words, our minds have no unmediated perception of external phenomena, be they visual, aural, or otherwise. Just as our memories are most correctly viewed as memories of memories rather than of experienced lived moments themselves, so to our seemingly immediate perception of the world is in fact mediated by our senses and our processing of the sensory input they provide. Which is probably majorly tangential and practically insignificant, but hey it seemed relevant at the time lol.Carrousel wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:35 pmThis is a fascinating thread. If nothing else, the huge range and difference of opinion should remind us of the inherently subjective nature of sound perception - more than other senses I would even argue because of the instant transient nature of sound (ie you can constantly stare at a painting, or stroke a textured object....but you can only replay a section of audio, momentarily sensing it, rather than continually sensing it).
This isn’t a helpful post, just me saying I love these kinds of threads.
This thread has me wanting to post some measurements to better identify the objective differences between different converters, but it’s not exactly the easiest time to get hold of an Audio Precision machine in the covid-ravaged southern US.