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Most aggressive and brutal distortion ever

Post by awedsimian » Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:19 am

I just watch some videos of stacked Metal Zones and they sound fucking glorious. The uncontrollable feedback shrieks coupled with blurry solos just sound amazing :hihi:

What are some of those pedals, synths, etc. that generate the most aggressive distortion with frequency responses that go up to ultrasonic frequencies (in the range of 50khz-100khz)? Btw all Metasonix products generate those high pitch noises to 40khz, right? What are the frequency responses of Metasonix products?

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Re: Most aggressive and brutal distortion ever

Post by Arneb » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:40 am

Well, I'd certainly also like such a list, if only to know which modules I should avoid using when little children and dogs are around.

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Re: Most aggressive and brutal distortion ever

Post by Voltcontrol » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:08 am

Things that sound amazing to you are not displaying the character you mean in the frequency range you mention.
That said, the Noise Engineering Viol Ruina might be to your liking.
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Re: Most aggressive and brutal distortion ever

Post by awedsimian » Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:35 am

Arneb wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:40 am
Well, I'd certainly also like such a list, if only to know which modules I should avoid using when little children and dogs are around.
Lol I can imagine these little children and dogs will howl in unison in pain :lol: just kidding no one will try to play those noises around them unless if someone is crazy.

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Re: Most aggressive and brutal distortion ever

Post by awedsimian » Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:39 am

Voltcontrol wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:08 am
Things that sound amazing to you are not displaying the character you mean in the frequency range you mention.
That said, the Noise Engineering Viol Ruina might be to your liking.
What is the frequency range of that thing? Just listened to a demo through their official Youtube channel and damn that thing is brutal for sure :woah:

I believe there are others other than that though. I see the frequency range of several Metasonix products and it is from less than 10khz to more than 40khz. Did the Noise Engineering Viol Ruina generated much more extreme frequencies extensions?

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Re: Most aggressive and brutal distortion ever

Post by awedsimian » Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:58 am

The MXR Distortion Plus have frequency range exceeded 100khz, but the higher frequencies are at lower decibels so the distortion sounds smoother.

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Re: Most aggressive and brutal distortion ever

Post by MindMachine » Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:39 am

awedsimian wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:58 am
The MXR Distortion Plus have frequency range exceeded 100khz, but the higher frequencies are at lower decibels so the distortion sounds smoother.

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Re: Most aggressive and brutal distortion ever

Post by awedsimian » Sat Jul 25, 2020 6:23 am

MindMachine wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:39 am
awedsimian wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:58 am
The MXR Distortion Plus have frequency range exceeded 100khz, but the higher frequencies are at lower decibels so the distortion sounds smoother.

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What has the world come to...
Sorry that image isn't a measurement from someone playing an instrument, it's just a simulation.

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Re: Most aggressive and brutal distortion ever

Post by Yes Powder » Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:04 pm

awedsimian wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 6:23 am
MindMachine wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:39 am
What has the world come to...
Sorry that image isn't a measurement from someone playing an instrument, it's just a simulation.
I think MindMachine's reaction comes from you being overly focused on the theoretical aspects of distortion ("what's their frequency range?") while apparently having very little idea of how that translates to the real world, or even what range of freqencies humans are even capable of hearing.
Most people know or even care what the frequency response of their distortion effects is, because most people don't make music based on discrete frequencies— much less those in the ultrasound range.

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Re: Most aggressive and brutal distortion ever

Post by Kattefjaes » Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:07 pm

Yes Powder wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:04 pm
Most people know or even care what the frequency response of their distortion effects is, because most people don't make music based on discrete frequencies— much less those in the ultrasound range.
Batcore is really big right now, do keep up.

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Re: Most aggressive and brutal distortion ever

Post by depth20 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:07 pm

WMD Acoustic Trauma is pretty wild.

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Re: Most aggressive and brutal distortion ever

Post by levelhead3 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:13 pm

Kattefjaes wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:07 pm
Yes Powder wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:04 pm
Most people know or even care what the frequency response of their distortion effects is, because most people don't make music based on discrete frequencies— much less those in the ultrasound range.
Batcore is really big right now, do keep up.
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Re: Most aggressive and brutal distortion ever

Post by Yes Powder » Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:27 pm

Kattefjaes wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:07 pm
Batcore is really big right now, do keep up.
Well I'll be damned, it's a thing!

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Re: Most aggressive and brutal distortion ever

Post by Kattefjaes » Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:31 pm

Yes Powder wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:27 pm
Well I'll be damned, it's a thing!
HAH, I'm going to pretend that I bothered to do that search first.

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Re: Most aggressive and brutal distortion ever

Post by Pyrrhix » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:35 pm

Ignoring the part about frequency ranges, look into the DOD Death Metal pedal. It's probably the most used pedal in harsh noise rigs.

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Re: Most aggressive and brutal distortion ever

Post by jimfowler » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:43 pm

check out the Intersound IVP for some particularly nasty distortion.

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Re: Most aggressive and brutal distortion ever

Post by awedsimian » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:10 am

Those WMD Acoustic Trauma, DOD Death Metal and Intersound IVP generate intense distortion without adding the accompanying oscillating noises. What are the most brutal noise distortion pedals out there that even more so than those Dwarfcraft pedals, Zvex, Metasonix, etc.?

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Re: Most aggressive and brutal distortion ever

Post by muleskinner » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:26 am

The Zvex Fat Fuzz Factory can get extremely brutal. Unusably so in my opinion, sounds great when you find the sweet spot though.

Any pedal developed with Sun O))) must be worth a look, right?

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Re: Most aggressive and brutal distortion ever

Post by Pyrrhix » Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:37 pm

awedsimian wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:10 am
Those WMD Acoustic Trauma, DOD Death Metal and Intersound IVP generate intense distortion without adding the accompanying oscillating noises. What are the most brutal noise distortion pedals out there that even more so than those Dwarfcraft pedals, Zvex, Metasonix, etc.?
Are you saying you want oscillations? Check out the Industrialectric Incinerator. It's cool as hell. That said, I once chased interesting oscillations from pedals, but I found that much more interesting sounds can be found by feeding an already-interesting synth sound into high gain pedals. Another option is to add oscillations to any pedal or set of pedals by creating feedback loops with something like the saturnworks feedback looper pedals or a standard audio mixer.

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Re: Most aggressive and brutal distortion ever

Post by knittingram » Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:40 pm

metasonix tx-3 (still around for a decent price)
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Re: Most aggressive and brutal distortion ever

Post by jdaddyaz » Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:51 pm

Ohmicide is my go to distortion. It is so versatile and has the ability to make the most destructive sounds I've heard. I wish it had a hardware equivalent. When not using a cpu, I tend to stack a few digitech, dod, elektron, and boss distortion pedals routed through a Lyra.
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Re: Most aggressive and brutal distortion ever

Post by diggida » Sat Aug 08, 2020 12:02 am

I really prefer distortion above 200Mhz.

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Re: Most aggressive and brutal distortion ever

Post by Luke2020 » Sat Aug 08, 2020 12:06 am

https://www.modulargrid.net/p/dod-death-metal-fx86b

and jut as obviously in eurorack it is the geiger counter...

imho

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Re: Most aggressive and brutal distortion ever

Post by Luke2020 » Sat Aug 08, 2020 12:39 am

awedsimian wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:58 am
The MXR Distortion Plus have frequency range exceeded 100khz, but the higher frequencies are at lower decibels so the distortion sounds smoother.

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MXR is cool, i had the blue box, and it was beautiful...

but can you explain the graph for the hard of intellect please? do similar graphs exist for other distortion?

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Re: Most aggressive and brutal distortion ever

Post by awedsimian » Sat Aug 08, 2020 8:17 pm

Pyrrhix wrote:
Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:37 pm
awedsimian wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:10 am
Those WMD Acoustic Trauma, DOD Death Metal and Intersound IVP generate intense distortion without adding the accompanying oscillating noises. What are the most brutal noise distortion pedals out there that even more so than those Dwarfcraft pedals, Zvex, Metasonix, etc.?
Are you saying you want oscillations? Check out the Industrialectric Incinerator. It's cool as hell. That said, I once chased interesting oscillations from pedals, but I found that much more interesting sounds can be found by feeding an already-interesting synth sound into high gain pedals. Another option is to add oscillations to any pedal or set of pedals by creating feedback loops with something like the saturnworks feedback looper pedals or a standard audio mixer.
Yes, something that is noisy. Thanks for the recommendation, will check the Incinerator out. If I recalled, all of these noise pedals are easily created by just using feedback loops and modulations or by something called circuit-bending.

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