New intellijel wavefolder/crossfader: bifold
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Re: New intellijel wavefolder/crossfader: bifold
yep Timber is still the one (in under 14hp, so ruling out R*S VCM and troppo TWF) to beat for me timbrally. sounds like Bifold and Fold6 might be both in the territory. I was not much of a fan of the uFold, to be honest, and I hear more of that in the P output of the Bifold.
all that's similar between Timber and Bifold, though, are the feedback normalizations and Serge flavored folding. the dry/wet thing on Timber is useful but a different kind of auxiliary modulation concept tacked onto a wavefolder than this crossfading angle on the Bifold
all that's similar between Timber and Bifold, though, are the feedback normalizations and Serge flavored folding. the dry/wet thing on Timber is useful but a different kind of auxiliary modulation concept tacked onto a wavefolder than this crossfading angle on the Bifold
Re: New intellijel wavefolder/crossfader: bifold
I got my mits on one. It sounds EXCELLENT. I have a Bastl Timber that I'm prob gunna sell.
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yeah! anything that messes with phase (like a filter) interacts in fun ways with time-domain effects like wavefolding. i especially like allpass filters, because they produce a signal that sounds identical to the input but looks totally different on a scope and folds/saturates/distorts totally differently. pairs so perfectly with a wavefolder that i'm surprised nobody's made a combo allpass/folder module.
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Re: New intellijel wavefolder/crossfader: bifold
about a week ago they said on facebook the were packing them up (and shipping to dealers?) so should be hitting the stores any day now!
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Re: New intellijel wavefolder/crossfader: bifold
good idea!jsco wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:36 pmyeah! anything that messes with phase (like a filter) interacts in fun ways with time-domain effects like wavefolding. i especially like allpass filters, because they produce a signal that sounds identical to the input but looks totally different on a scope and folds/saturates/distorts totally differently. pairs so perfectly with a wavefolder that i'm surprised nobody's made a combo allpass/folder module.
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Re: New intellijel wavefolder/crossfader: bifold
Sounds pretty good to my ears. A smooth serge sound and the buchla is a bit more quirky. The layout/design is pretty versatile as well.
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Re: New intellijel wavefolder/crossfader: bifold
The Bifold is starting to trickle out into the rest of the world. I picked one up today from Patchwerks, and Wigglehunt shows it at Clockface Modular and Nightlife Electronics. My impressions so far are excellent. It’s very well thought out and deep with capabilities. Worth the wait.
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Re: New intellijel wavefolder/crossfader: bifold
How is it for wave folding CV?
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OK, I'm convinced.
I just ordered (pre) a bifold from Perfect circuit.
But, I have to remove the BIA to fit it.
Oh, maybe not
It's going Here new Bifold home
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I just ordered (pre) a bifold from Perfect circuit.
But, I have to remove the BIA to fit it.

Oh, maybe not
It's going Here new Bifold home
this is the craziest little sequencing rack I have ever built.
It is an Intellijel 104 by 7U rack (black)
but I wanted silver, Waaa...
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Re: New intellijel wavefolder/crossfader: bifold
Just stopping by to say that I ordered(not a preorder) the Bifold from a place in Vancouver called Nightlife Electronics. I paid a little extra for shipping, but the exchange rate was good and I should have it by the end of the week. Also, they have the 1u lpgs. I’m sure they have plenty of both. Glad to see BC finally has a modular shop.
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Re: New intellijel wavefolder/crossfader: bifold
It works great. I wasn’t fond of using my uFold II for CV, simply because wavefolding introduces a very specific character to a wave, and it was a bit too regular/predictable for my tastes. With the Bifold’s two channels and Mix output, however, one can get some very intriguing results.
Here’s the Bifold in action, folding two sines from my Batumi and mixing them. (Please pardon the image quality, or lack thereof.)
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Good idea!
I believe the filter+wavefolder has been done already, e.g. AJH has the Sonic XV diode ladder filter with a wavefolder on the output. Not an allpass filter though...
Also...just thought of trying a phaser (e.g. Kamieniec) + wavefolder!

I believe the filter+wavefolder has been done already, e.g. AJH has the Sonic XV diode ladder filter with a wavefolder on the output. Not an allpass filter though...
Also...just thought of trying a phaser (e.g. Kamieniec) + wavefolder!
jsco wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:36 pmyeah! anything that messes with phase (like a filter) interacts in fun ways with time-domain effects like wavefolding. i especially like allpass filters, because they produce a signal that sounds identical to the input but looks totally different on a scope and folds/saturates/distorts totally differently. pairs so perfectly with a wavefolder that i'm surprised nobody's made a combo allpass/folder module.
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Re: New intellijel wavefolder/crossfader: bifold
Isn't there a new WMD filter with a folder too? And Manis Iteritas goes filter-folder-filter.StrangeAttraction wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:12 pmI believe the filter+wavefolder has been done already, e.g. AJH has the Sonic XV diode ladder filter with a wavefolder on the output.
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Re: New intellijel wavefolder/crossfader: bifold
True, true. Is there a NE module without a built-in digital wavefolder though?


starthief wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:23 pmIsn't there a new WMD filter with a folder too? And Manis Iteritas goes filter-folder-filter.StrangeAttraction wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:12 pmI believe the filter+wavefolder has been done already, e.g. AJH has the Sonic XV diode ladder filter with a wavefolder on the output.
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They do love their folders. I'm a little surprised Desmodus doesn't have one 

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Re: New intellijel wavefolder/crossfader: bifold
Yeah, a reverb with a wavefolder would be very interesting! It's a DSP platform as well, right? So in theory someone can add a wavefolder...
It's not all lost.. haha.
Those wavefolders on NE modules really add a lot to the range of sounds we can all get out of their modules.
It's not all lost.. haha.
Those wavefolders on NE modules really add a lot to the range of sounds we can all get out of their modules.
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Re: New intellijel wavefolder/crossfader: bifold
Can anyone with experience comment on how close the buchla side actually sounds like buchla?
I had the feedback two59 oscillators/shaper and it’s wave folder was a clone of the buchla 259 folder and it was the warmest most organic folding ive ever heard. Not sure if I’m getting the same vibe from the bifold demos so far but it’s hard to say.
I had the feedback two59 oscillators/shaper and it’s wave folder was a clone of the buchla 259 folder and it was the warmest most organic folding ive ever heard. Not sure if I’m getting the same vibe from the bifold demos so far but it’s hard to say.
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Thanks! Ordered.megarat wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:03 pmIt works great. I wasn’t fond of using my uFold II for CV, simply because wavefolding introduces a very specific character to a wave, and it was a bit too regular/predictable for my tastes. With the Bifold’s two channels and Mix output, however, one can get some very intriguing results.
Here’s the Bifold in action, folding two sines from my Batumi and mixing them. (Please pardon the image quality, or lack thereof.)
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Re: New intellijel wavefolder/crossfader: bifold
Been playing with mine for about a day now and the timbres it makes are really lovely. It's great to do "subtle wavefolding" with the mixer capabilities. Being able to mix between your clan dry signal and your wavefolded signal is one of my favourite things about my 0-coast, and while the timbers are quite different with the bifold they can really really yield interesting warm results.
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I was also concerned about warmth and whether or not I would get along with the Bifold. I was using the uFold II and needed to attenuate the sine or triangle going in to get a 'warm' or pleasant sound. I'm happy to report that the Bifold doesn't need any signal attenuation. I'm blown away by the sound actually. I find it inspiring, where as I just tolerated the uFold.
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Yes highly interested in how it compares.brandonlogic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:59 pmCan anyone with experience comment on how close the buchla side actually sounds like buchla?
I had the feedback two59 oscillators/shaper and it’s wave folder was a clone of the buchla 259 folder and it was the warmest most organic folding ive ever heard. Not sure if I’m getting the same vibe from the bifold demos so far but it’s hard to say.
I was also interested in the serge folder. But if this hits both close enough..
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StrangeAttraction wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:41 pmThose wavefolders on NE modules really add a lot to the range of sounds we can all get out of their modules.

I'd like to add this thread voting for the instruo athrú, little marvel. Intellijel bifold is keeping my eye. Loving wavefolders.
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I have always wondered what an "infolder" as NE calls it, really is.StrangeAttraction wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:31 pmTrue, true. Is there a NE module without a built-in digital wavefolder though?![]()
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Does anyone know where to find an explanation of what an "infolder" actually is?
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The same as a wavefolder?
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still waiting for Bifold to arrive.
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Re: New intellijel wavefolder/crossfader: bifold
For what it's worth... I've been studying the 259e on Youtube a little deeper after getting my bifold, specifically to see how they would compare. At the moment, I mostly feed my Bifold a clean triangle or a sine from my Ts-L. I don't know if the P channel is specifically inspired by this particular Buchla oscillator, but I can say the results are quite close. Keep in mind we're talking about comparing real life use to Youtube, so a massive pinch of salt is in order. That being said, I have to say I am quite blown away by the sound, whether it's close to the 259e or not, the timbres are lovely.drowld wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:29 amYes highly interested in how it compares.brandonlogic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:59 pmCan anyone with experience comment on how close the buchla side actually sounds like buchla?
I had the feedback two59 oscillators/shaper and it’s wave folder was a clone of the buchla 259 folder and it was the warmest most organic folding ive ever heard. Not sure if I’m getting the same vibe from the bifold demos so far but it’s hard to say.
I was also interested in the serge folder. But if this hits both close enough..
If you're familiar with hands-on Buchla, feel free to let me know what you'd like to hear btw, I'll be happy to record a few tests for you.
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Re: New intellijel wavefolder/crossfader: bifold
Mine arrives Monday..looking forward to it!