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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mateo, thanks for the recommendation too.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

digidennis wrote:
Nice post / info.

This is perfect place to air my old (1997) goa stuff without feeling ashamed oops

I found these youtube vids of the tracks..





lots of juno 106 ( god bless the noisy chorus ) and JD-990


Wow.... dude.... your music was a massive inspiration to me back then.... still have fond memories of all the orion tracks I had on compilations...
Thanks for all the awesome music.

What are you doing these days? still writing music?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Return to the source, hah thats a blast from the past! I did some stuff with Phantasm way back when they were starting out, but truth be told I never really embraced the psytrance/Goa sound - i was more a acid/techno guy, fun times though and some great people SlayerBadger!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I have to admit I have also been involved in the trance thing, here are some projects from me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd8yIS1AuWU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0VL01ydDnQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_DaZ80SvNc
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Here is an unreleased live jam from me recorded in Phantasm's studio back in '95, they had an 808, 909, 303, junos, basically tons of vintage gear hihi

http://soundcloud.com/daren-ager/thunder

I still remember this jam like it was yesterday lol

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Thanks for the flashbacks Babaluma...
Links to bleep weren't working but I will do a search later.
Curious to hear these early sounds.

I never really got into later trance but I have definitely heard some tracks that were really moving.

I remember back in 1990 (was still in high school) picking up a Psychick Warriors Ov Gaia EP which prompted a spinoff on some of my private parties here in Denver...would do "mash-ups" of current93 and nurse with wound on some of the longer PsychickWOG stuff. (sneaking in some KLF...ChillOut served as nice backing too)

Come to think of it, there were other KK records stuff I was also playing at the time and people would zone out for hours to a mixture of sounds, strobe lights, various TVs playing video feedback and of course incense. thumbs up

I started playing along with tracks using an R-8, a TR-626 and ocarina/flutes mic'd to heavy reverb and delay. Would program octave pitched 808 bass kicks (I was also inlfuenced by the early miami bass sound) and various percussion instruments from each rhythm composer (626 is nice for this) and had coined the term "xungal" for this sound.

Few people got it and others thought I was still obsessing on mayan xamanism (wait...has anything changed here woah )

A few years later I started hearing and reading about the "jungle" scene and although the sounds were a bit different I thought I was somehow duped. cry

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

when are people going to embrace the exactness of digital sequencing in COMBINATION with the flux/warmth of analog?

I think variety is king in all walks of life.

When I listen to acid music made totally with hardware I ALWAYS get bored. Sure you can chalk it up to me being fro this younger crowd with no attention span but its probably due more to the fact that what I really used to listen to was technical death metal and progressive rock/metal where there were at least 3 guys furiously palying in sync blowing my mind with every passing minute....

then there was Pendulum, Infected Mushroom, and DRUGS!!!!

a few years later I still love psytrance, the stuff Terryfractal is doing is SICK! My favorite is Electrypnose.. which coincidentally uses a pretty equal mix of digital and analog gear.

I just dont get how someone can dog on the ableton generation, yet be stuck in the 303-909-moog generation!!!

don't you know that the hardware has limits too? in most cases ableton has a much more vast realm of creationg.. let alone the combination of it all!!!

variety is king. food, movies, girls, tennis shoes, weather, and music too.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Simon Posford told me a while ago that somewhere 'out there" exists a 40 minute version of Slinky Wizard- The Wizard, that was never released.

Although I have never heard or seen this version, I submit that if it exists, it must be the greatest trance track ever made.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

ben jah men wrote:
My favorite is Electrypnose.. which coincidentally uses a pretty equal mix of digital and analog gear.

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I made some music with electrypnose a few years ago and then he was a pretty much all digital guy, maybe he started using some analog stuff later on but I would consider his music pretty much digital... havent heard his latest though....
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

terrafractyl wrote:


Wow.... dude.... your music was a massive inspiration to me back then.... still have fond memories of all the orion tracks I had on compilations...
Thanks for all the awesome music.

What are you doing these days? still writing music?


Sorry better late than never i guess.
Thank you very much indeed, i was only invovled in the first 5-6 tracks, and i dont really know if Brian ( Jean Borrelli ) is still active, but i dont think so.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Nice talk here!!! There was a lot good music from the beginning of 90's to the mid of the 90's. In the 80's too but this stuff is really rare.
o.k.

Thorsten Fenslau was a good young talented musician. Here is a release of him from 1991. But the melancholy he died in his young years by a car accident 1993.



Trancesetters (Dobre & Jamez) - The search from 1995 - nice



Melt - Radioactivity from 1989 - Amazing remake of Kraftwerks Radioactivity from 1976



Cygnus X - The Orange Theme from 1994 - classic stuff



Sven Väth - Lesperanza from 1992 - this is long and smooth version. think the most younger people don't hear those tracks from him in between of today. At this time he worked with Ralf Hildenbeutel. After the Fusion album are going everyone his own way



Cosmic Baby (aka Harald Büchel) - The Space Track from 1992 -
Comsic Baby was one of the most popular aritists @this time. Today he doesn't make anything on this sector. He writes music for Radio/TV and compose classic music
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

this is a great thread. thx for all the sharing...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

astroschnautzer wrote:
ben jah men wrote:
My favorite is Electrypnose.. which coincidentally uses a pretty equal mix of digital and analog gear.

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I made some music with electrypnose a few years ago and then he was a pretty much all digital guy, maybe he started using some analog stuff later on but I would consider his music pretty much digital... havent heard his latest though....


sry to warm this up ...
but he diy'ed an mfos synth ...
http://www.electrypnose.com/index.php?page=vinsynth

his music is awesome ...

i'm jealous of you ;-))
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For anyone on Facebook, there's a couple of amazing "Goa Hippy Tribe" groups, with links to many video interviews with people who were on the Goa scene in the 70's. It's really good!

http://www.facebook.com/#!/goahippytribe

http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=232142734251


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Babaluma wrote:


i have a love/hate relationship with "psy trance" music. these days it's mostly hate, but i was well into the scene from around 94 to 96, i used to go to london parties every weekend (return to the source, escape from samsara, psubliminal psychedelia etc.)



I made a bit of music in the early 90's that was classified as trance. I quite liked a lot of the stuff coming out of Germany at that time, but was well and truly over most stuff labeled as trance by the mid 90's.

You might have been at a gig I did at Megatripolis in 1994 smile

Here's one of those early 90's tunes:

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Nice tune! I'd like to master more Trance music. A lot of it these days seems to be mostly ITB, so I think I can add some analogue goodness to it!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

wow, that Techgnosis article really has me tempted to get a Walkman WM-D6C Pro or two to see what its capable of d'oh!
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yep, that's funny! erik davis is cool.

nice to see another AOS fan here too. wink did you make it to the cuming museum show? didn't go, but sent my parents in my place. recently got the "cockney visionary" book, very nice.
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Stoked for this thread. Here's a live set my duo Ono-Sendai played at a rave late last year. There's a dotcom entry system being sequenced for leads/effects by an MC-505 throughout all of it (alongside a bunch of other hardware). Recorded direct from the mixer via soundcard to a computer, improvised on the groovebox/synths.

[s]http://soundcloud.com/ono-sendai/my-girlfriend-has-esp[/s]

My bandmate recently sold his MS2000 we mainly used for leads, so we're going to start using his and my (new) dotcom entry systems for all sequenced leads and effects. We might starting doing strange a-melodic groovy stuff with the modulars or even bump from 136 to 144 bpm or something wacky like that.
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solitaryzen wrote:
Babaluma wrote:


i have a love/hate relationship with "psy trance" music. these days it's mostly hate, but i was well into the scene from around 94 to 96, i used to go to london parties every weekend (return to the source, escape from samsara, psubliminal psychedelia etc.)



I made a bit of music in the early 90's that was classified as trance. I quite liked a lot of the stuff coming out of Germany at that time, but was well and truly over most stuff labeled as trance by the mid 90's.

You might have been at a gig I did at Megatripolis in 1994 smile

Here's one of those early 90's tunes:



was that on nova zembla or solitary sound??

i like it


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solitaryzen wrote:
Babaluma wrote:


i have a love/hate relationship with "psy trance" music. these days it's mostly hate, but i was well into the scene from around 94 to 96, i used to go to london parties every weekend (return to the source, escape from samsara, psubliminal psychedelia etc.)



I made a bit of music in the early 90's that was classified as trance. I quite liked a lot of the stuff coming out of Germany at that time, but was well and truly over most stuff labeled as trance by the mid 90's.

You might have been at a gig I did at Megatripolis in 1994 smile

Here's one of those early 90's tunes:



Weren't we label mates at some point?!!
The early 90's were all a bit of a blur to be honest
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I've been into psytrance since the end of the 90s, and all I can say...

Yeah I like the oldschool goa sounds best too, but I just can't agree that the scene would be dying, gone stale or whatever.
Whenever I have thoughts like that, this returns me to reality:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150102320767204.284239.836 1492203&type=3

I've been travelling a bit playing my music at the most, most, most, most amazing underground parties in some mindblowing natural locations, and a big part of the time I have felt a really rare kind of energy and magic with the people... Of course there's a lot of mainstream fullon/dark parties or whatever too, but I think there's space for everybody on the scene. And in the right setting, even the cheesiest full-on tracks can be mindblowing, it's not about the music, and it never was. The people & places create the culture... (And some would say, drugs, but let's not get into that topic.)

Fact is, the spirit of underground outdoor hippie techno festival/party is doing very well I think, even if a lot of the music in the current scene is a bit boring and derivative. (hey Israel, where we have these 20-something guys who never in their life probably listened to anything else than trance... do I need to say that the amount of interesting music I've heard over there lately amounts to nearly zero.)

Here's something I found again yesterday, I talked with them a few years ago at a festival, and they really think a lot about what they do and why. I think everything works out beautifully, with great wide atmospheres just wanting to be played outdoors on a big pa, together with some neat goa-style melodies smile
http://soundcloud.com/universcience
Nagual & Nasca for example, great stuff!

I haven't myself really listened to new trance since mid 2000s, maybe it's because I haven't had a proper internet connection until now so I stopped pirating music (hey, trance these days really isn't interesting enough to buy CDs.), maybe it's because I like listening to different music at home.
But I've been making electronic dance music myself the whole time, travelling etc, and now recently again got interested in going to parties just for fun too. There's just a great energy in the psytrance scene that is hard to find elsewhere.

And, yes, TIP Yellow is also one of my favourite comps!

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Backroads wrote:
Stoked for this thread.


Welcome fellow midwestern moog-format psyrave-playing wiggler!

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I got into goa a couple years ago by continually seeing Astral Projection mentioned in the 'People who have used..." section on Vintage Synth Explorer. Their album Another World pretty much does it for me.

Lately, though, its the progressive psytrance thats been blowing my mind. Been loving the drum/bass grooves that remind me of EBM (speaking of the roots of trance). This Ace Ventura mix has been getting heavy rotation lately:

[s]http://soundcloud.com/schatsi/ace-ventura-autumn-progmix[/s]
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Backroads wrote:
Stoked for this thread. Here's a live set my duo Ono-Sendai played at a rave late last year. There's a dotcom entry system being sequenced for leads/effects by an MC-505 throughout all of it (alongside a bunch of other hardware). Recorded direct from the mixer via soundcard to a computer, improvised on the groovebox/synths.


Nice sounds in there....

I was a psytrance/goa dj in the midwest about 10 years ago. Don't play out any more, but still have all my old vinyl (which I guess dates me right there).

I've written some tracks, but nothing good enough to put online...

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