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The Roots of Trance
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dogoftears

Im a little late to this one but...
Trance is alive and well! In california we benefit from a multitude of underground outdoor parties usually featuring fairly obscure and super synthd out dark/neuro psy trance. We even have two goa gil parties a year- one for his birthday in october, and one on memorial day weekend. We just celebrated gils 60th birthday last year!!

I personally make a loooot of psy trance, almost exclusively with modular gear. It is not the norm, but my experimental, evil, atonal trance shit does seem to have its niche. Check it out in my dog of tears soundcloud link. Babz here has mastered a couple tracks of mine, one of which is featured on my SC.

I highly recommend checking out music by some awesome artists like Ghreg on Earth, Derango, Sectio Aurea, Enichkin, Psykovsky, Axis Mundi, Fractal Cowboys, Facehead, Luuli, Secret Society, and many others. It is all super whacked out and trippy experimental trance!!

Also you can hear one of my tracks "hermetic rust" on goa gils new compilation, entitled "shri maharaj". Once again it is made with 95% modular gear.


Backroads

Those of you that produce psytrance with a modular, have you used something akin to SSL's Digital Delay? I'm super excited that it has CV control over delay time.. syncing to god knows what. Hopefully I'll be able to pick one up in the next batch.


solitaryzen

dolma84 wrote:
solitaryzen wrote:
Babaluma wrote:


i have a love/hate relationship with "psy trance" music. these days it's mostly hate, but i was well into the scene from around 94 to 96, i used to go to london parties every weekend (return to the source, escape from samsara, psubliminal psychedelia etc.)



I made a bit of music in the early 90's that was classified as trance. I quite liked a lot of the stuff coming out of Germany at that time, but was well and truly over most stuff labeled as trance by the mid 90's.

You might have been at a gig I did at Megatripolis in 1994 smile

Here's one of those early 90's tunes:



was that on nova zembla or solitary sound??

i like it


Was originally released on Psy-Harmonics here in Australia, then licensed to KK/Nova Zembla in Belgium.


solitaryzen

Morley wrote:

Weren't we label mates at some point?!!
The early 90's were all a bit of a blur to be honest
nuts ambulance


I was signed to the other Belgian label run by a crazy man (KK records). Katrien's partner Sjon worked for them though, so I did spend a bit of time with them in Gent (they're in Evergem now) and visited the R&S studio.

Yeah, fun times It's motherfucking bacon yo MY ASS IS BLEEDING Dead Banana


James Mandible

I never knew early trance had such an EBM influence. The stuff in this thread sounds pretty cool, looks like I have a new genre to check out w00t


Backroads

Here's a good example of some EBM stuff that's got a pretty heavy trance vibe at times (see around 1:00).



The EBM entry on Wikipedia talks quite a bit about the crossover/influences of goa on industrial/ebm and vice versa.

In fact, I think I tend to prefer progressive psytrance partly because the basslines remind me of EBM.


b3nsf

I love this one:
















Babaluma

i have most of those releases b3nsf. that early 90's german trance scene with harthouse, eye-q, sven vath etc was excellent! still gets played from time to time here too.


Taika-Kim

Excellent stuff that Teutonic Knights... Hmm I have sometimes a bit of a problem with that nihilistic german thing, verging on the nazist sometimes razz Same thing with neofolk really, for some reason most of the germa stuff goes really high on the misantrophic scale.. But damn those are tasty sounds in that track! And strange, what was the thing with Norway and EBM at that time? Can't say we would have had a similar scene, altough we're practically neighbors.


James Mandible

Backroads wrote:
Here's a good example of some EBM stuff that's got a pretty heavy trance vibe at times (see around 1:00).



The EBM entry on Wikipedia talks quite a bit about the crossover/influences of goa on industrial/ebm and vice versa.

In fact, I think I tend to prefer progressive psytrance partly because the basslines remind me of EBM.


I'm sure I've read the EBM article on Wiki before, but if I saw that stuff I probably discounted it/thought it had something to do with the later future pop/whatever stuff that people tend to call EBM these days (and I hate MY ASS IS BLEEDING )


Great track too. Gonna have to try and find that release.


dolma84



Cool!!


Spanningtree

Loved the Harthouse label back in college, still do!




corex

Backroads wrote:
Lately, though, its the progressive psytrance thats been blowing my mind. Been loving the drum/bass grooves that remind me of EBM (speaking of the roots of trance). This Ace Ventura mix has been getting heavy rotation lately:

[s]http://soundcloud.com/schatsi/ace-ventura-autumn-progmix[/s]

I was into Goa in the mid-90's but I've been really into the prog psy sound for the past 5-6 years. Ace Ventura's Rebirth is pure gold.


ben jah men

Ace Ventura is awesome.. anyone know what synths he is rockin?


Backroads

I think he uses software; beyond that I have no idea. There are some youtube videos of him using a small midi controller next to a laptop, doing what looks like filter sweeps etc.


DanielW

One of my all time favourite albums is a psy trance album – sort of. Hallucinogen's Hallucinogen in Dub, remixed by OTT is just fantastic. Never heard anything like it, not even OTT's other stuff.

But the fast goa stuff, I'd really need to drop acid to enjoy.


ben jah men

yeah that album is amazing... the fact that it is all remixes is mind boggling..


corex

i became a fan of ott almost instantly. such genius.

let's drop some links... gamma goblins, for instance.

hallucinogen original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD3XsUR3ZRo
ott's remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGcH0YDhwg4


Backroads

I've always appreciated the original Twisted album more. But I'm not generally into Ott either.

This one makes me really want an MS20:




Taika-Kim

Heh, cool, Terrafractyl, I guess we'll be meeting in Israel on the 23th of March grin

With MARK ALLEN! Shit, I still love many old Mindfield tracks, altough not sure how big his input is... but Quirk, still, deep stuff!



I'll arrive already on the 22th, and leave on the 1st probably... Gonna play at some other party too probably next Thursday. Maybe you want to tag along, I was thinking of maybe going hiking up north between the parties, it's fantastic there in the spring!



That's one of my all time fav tracks! Great to be playing with him at the same party, for me these occasions are strange, like playing with Pleiadians was, because they are the people that made me start with trance music in the first place!


plord

Awesome gig, congrats on keeping the vibe alive. You going to record it? Post excerpts? I am not able to travel to Israel smile

Odyssey of the Mind gets a lot of play here, same with that first Quirk album.


Taika-Kim

Well, I'm playing from CD a "live" DJ set, so not much to record there grin I'm mostly interested in songwriting so haven't had the energy or money to invest in any kind of live set... I'm hoping though, last summer for the first time played some tracks straight from the sequencer in the set, that was fun actually...

One interesting thing though was, that my contact with the audience was less, because the laptop took so much attention... So best would maybe be to have backgrounds in some software that allows to drag & drop projects fast and reliably in to a playlist, and then have maybe only one MIDI track for each track, and then have a synth for tweaking some live stuff in... Because with some basic analog desktop it would be fast enough to dial in any patch. I couldn't do with a pre-ordained set, because often I realize that I need to put some certain track next, and have maybe a minute or less to throw that in... Maybe Ableton Live would be good for this, don't know... But that's a bit expensive too confused

But yeah the oldschool (connected to the finnish/australian sound for some reason) scene definitely still exists in Israel!


Babaluma

I've been really digging this old school Goa anthem by Youth again recently:




plord

Great Track. I remember picking up Dragonfly Project II Trance and the first Concept in Dance on the same day, and that was pretty much that for the next 4 years. I hoovered up anything I could find.

I didn't read back through the thread, have we mentioned that Suntrip records has been churning out oldschool melodic Goa releases for a few years now?

Babaluma wrote:
I've been really digging this old school Goa anthem by Youth again recently:




Taika-Kim

Aah myself, about the new goa trance acts. I don't know why, but I can't really name ONE that would make me actually want to listen to the music. Maybe it's some lack of purity of ideas, maybe it's the flat computer sounds & production... Dunno.
Maybe Filteria (great guy, and has a lot of analog gear, MS20 etc) and Afgin (also a fantastic personality, don't remember now what he is using)... And some others possibly, but generally a LOT of this new style is focusing too much on cliched melodies, and less on interesting sonic textures and acid, like the old UK sound did for example...

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