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Post by nofuture » Sun Feb 02, 2014 3:59 pm

Thank you !

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Post by atari5200 » Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:21 pm

Any further word on pricing? I assume this will work with a Cincon brick, right?

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Post by nofuture » Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:54 am

Powered by laptop-style DC power supply: 2.1mm barrel, positive center, 15V-20V.
Can't wait for this be available, need some juice !

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Post by GGW » Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:29 pm

Can these be ordered yet? I see them on the site but there is no pricing.
I'm putting together a small two row system that should be accommodated by the Row Power 30 for power but it has 18 modules. Can three bus cables be split off somehow?

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Post by Etan » Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:30 am

My DIY case is almost finished, need power badly, but still no news on ROW POWER release date.

You can already preorder it on Analogue Zone, the price is 97,99 euros for ROW POWER 30 and 157,99 euros for ROW POWER 40.

Hopefully these will be out soon :goo:

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Post by nofuture » Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:41 am

Hello,

Any news about the availability ?

Thanks.

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Post by Etan » Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:13 am

Anytime I ask it is only two weeks away. Got fed up with waiting and lack of proper info, ordered Doepfer power supply today.

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Post by 4mspedals » Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:24 pm

nofuture wrote:Hello,

Any news about the availability ?

Thanks.
We've got a bunch of ROW POWERs and are just waiting on the flying bus cables and new, low-profile low-cost distro boards. Should be by the end of the month!

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Post by nofuture » Thu Mar 20, 2014 4:46 am

Nice !

Thanks for the answer, impatient to get one !

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Post by Strange_Days » Fri Apr 04, 2014 4:18 am

Any sign of the Row Power in any shops yet? (More imaptience here :P)
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Post by gabrielp » Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:34 pm

NU wrote:Just spotted it at Moog Audio: http://www.moogaudio.com/4ms-row-power- ... -7767.html
We dont have them in stock @ moog yet, hopefully soon!

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Post by 4mspedals » Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:09 pm

OK! They're officially ready and we've started shipping to dealers.

We have Row Power 30's, Row Power 40's, and accessories:
-Flying Bus Cables (both male and female versions)
-Bus Stick (a low-profile mini passive distro board)
-Power Brick
-Barrel Jumper cables (for daisy-chaining Row Powers)

You can see more info on our site:
http://www.4mspedals.com/rowpow.php

Note that we aren't shipping direct to customers yet, only to dealers (unless there's no dealer in your region, such as South America).

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Post by theflyingfridge » Mon May 05, 2014 6:48 am

I'm wondering how the trial went for those who were trialing it?

Hoping some wigglers currently using ROW POWER can speak up!

I'm planning on upgrading ASAP.

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Post by Etan » Tue May 06, 2014 7:08 am

I am also interested in any user experiences.

Thinking about replacing my 4 X 6U Doepfer cases with a single custom built case powered by couple of Row Power supplies.

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Post by nofuture » Tue May 06, 2014 8:00 am

Idem, advice on ROW POWER vs Linear PSU would be great, I'm hesitating between those two possibilities.

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Post by exper » Tue May 06, 2014 8:13 am

I tested one, and feel that its a perfectly fine power supply. It had a lower noise floor than my other switching supply I tested it against.

One thing that is not the fault of the Row Power, but certain modules are very noisy/whiny with many switching supplies. Namely Pamela's Workout and to a slightly lesser extent, Trigger Riot. So, unless you want to power these on their own separate control skiff (which is what I do) I'd go for a linear supply.

I will also say that some oscillators that have been prone to bleeding, were at their lowest with the Row Power compared to my other power, ie almost imperceptible.

It's a good product overall, so go for it!
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row power/modular row

Post by bk_3782 » Tue May 06, 2014 2:58 pm

on a somewhat related note, when will the modular rows be available at distributors for sale?

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Post by thiagozt » Tue May 06, 2014 8:51 pm

Any word on availability?
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Post by nofuture » Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:27 am

Hi,

I've some question about the ROW Power:

I saw that there is 2 keyed connector for the bus board / flexible bus board.
Is it possible to chain the flexible bus boards ?
Like have 2 flexible bus board connected to the 4ms ROW Power and then 2 connected to the first male connector of each one of the 2 that are connected to the module ? (I ask this because 13 connector is a bit light for a PSU that can supply 1.5(+12V)/1.3(-12V)/1.5(+5V))

I also saw that it accept 15 to 20 VDC as Power Supply.
So would it be possible to chain one 4ms ROW Power with a uZeus if I put the PSU in 15VDC (the one that is sold by 4ms) without any risk weird issue ?
Do someone actually try to do that and made some test about possible issues caused by this ? (Hum ? Greater Noise Floor ? Greater Heat ? VCO Tracking differently ? )

Thanks.

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Post by cheliosheart » Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:49 am

Yes you can chain flying bus boards.

Not sure about chaining to a uZeus, no experience.

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Post by nofuture » Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:15 pm

And other thing come to my head...

The cord that link the Power Brick from 4ms to the plug on the wall is from USA/EU and work in 110/230 VAC depending on where you buy it right ?
( I'm going to order it from Schneidersladen so it should be in 230 VAC and DE outlet right ?)
Can I safely cut the cord and put a Swiss outlet instead of the US / EU one ? or it's not recommended ?
( I do this each this I buy something in EU and had no problem until now, but well there's going to be all the modules powered by the 4ms ROW POWER so I don't want to fry them all just because of this... )

Still interested to know if someone tried to chain a 4ms ROW POW & a uZeus.
Thanks.

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Post by Funky40 » Sun Oct 19, 2014 1:57 am

there was no Cord ( from Brick to 220V outlet) , you buy your own. (it has the small 3 pin plug)
thats how i got mine from 4ms . ( the first batch units )

the 4ms has a direct 15V out, to chain "PSU modules".
Though, their plug isn´t fitting the uZeus.
you would have to solder a own connector cable,
you can get cheap bricks for uZues from Reichelt for example


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Post by owmtxy » Sun Oct 19, 2014 2:46 am

Just ordered a ROW to go with a uZeus so I'd be interested in the compatibility matter too.

Soldering a new cable together isn't a problem, but is there any other reason it couldn't work (or worse, damage things)?

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