Essential modules for extreme noise and wild sounds?

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Essential modules for extreme noise and wild sounds?

Post by MrTea » Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:01 am

I was just wondering what are everybody's essential modules (or combinations of) for making extreme sounds?

I probably will use my system to create some classic analogue tones, but I mainly write and perform noise - so I'm looking for a bit of advice on which euro modules are going to help me satisfy my addiction to harsh unadulterated noise :twisted:

I'm still on a budget so I'm probably not going to be able to afford to buy loads of the higher priced modules, but if there's one or two absolute essentials then i can probably make an exception. :mrgreen:

I'd love a Hertz Donut but £350 for one oscillator is a bit above my budget :cry:

So yeah if anybody can give me a heads up on some good Doepfer stuff that'd be good too.

Here's what's on my hit list so far based on audio clips I've heard:

FOH Plague bearer
Doepfer BBD --> PLL
Doepfer Ext In --> BBD
Doepfer Spring Reverb

The list is looking a bit nervous I know.......

Any other suggestions for modules - or techniques?

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Post by REwire » Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:12 am

You need nothing else with just a Hertz Donut, NoiseRing, Wogglebug or the Anti-Osc to make grungey dirty sounds.

As for effects:

WMD Geiger Counter
ASys Comb Filter
Time Sefari

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Post by apfEID » Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:30 am

synths aren't particularly great for harsh noise, feedback loops are.

so, stilton adaptor + matrix mixer (harvestman evin or doepfer) + DOD pedals.
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Post by MrTea » Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:44 am

The geiger counter does look very awesome. Sounds cool & not too pricey either.

This may sound stupid but I'm still swaying over whether or not to include digital modules..... I know it's probably very anal and that there are some amazing modules out there with digital components but..... I always this idea in my head that it would be an 'analogue' modular. :hmm:

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Post by MrTea » Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:47 am

apfEID wrote:synths aren't particularly great for harsh noise, feedback loops are.
Totally, that's what I'm doing currently. With pedals, mixer, radio, mics etc with a bit of evolver feedbacking itself thrown in for good measure :twisted:

Would the stilton adaptor eliminate the need for the Doepfer Ext. in?

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Post by pixelmechanic » Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:56 am

Hey MrTea, just sent you a pm about hook-up availability today if you want to hear some toys, I'll have some time during Monday day too...

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Post by transfixer » Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:06 am

me likes noise too.
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Post by anselmi » Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:06 am

mostly of the demos I heard here are mayhem/noise/mangled stuff

I was really surprised by a few tonal and "nice" beautiful pieces of "musical" stuff, like the one posted by felix some days ago...

just check almost any sound demo at the forum, they´re plenty of what you are looking for

plague beard seems to be a great candidate
QMMG too
NoiseRing
Wogglebug
WMD Geiger Counter
Malgorythm
Doepfer bit crusher (don´t remember the exact model)

anything that can oscillate at audio rate used as a modulator (of any kind) of another audio generator in dissonant intervale could be a good source of atonal and weird stuf...if it a random genearator the "noise" component became more instantly, of course

anything that could be feedbacked both in audio and/or mpodulation could be another good source

high gain stages for overloading inputs and noise rising are a must, compressors too and of course classic dedicated overdrive/saturation modules

CVable delays with other processing stages in the feedback loop could deliver massive tones...coupling it with a dense reverb is another rewarding trick

a good routing mixer is an excellent utility tool for control any kind of noise-oriented patch...just leave a free channel to feedback the last stage of your audio path for the last extreme manipulation

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Post by theabsent » Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:50 am

Again, Doepfer A-137-1 VC Wave Mult!
And A-138m Matrix Mixer for feedbacks.

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Post by Cybananna » Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:27 am

If I were you, I wouldn't worry about the analog / digital thing. Use what makes great sound and don't worry about labels and analog hype.

The Hertz Donut is digital. So are other great noise makers.

I highly recommend the Plague Bearer. Also the Malgorythm or Geiger Counter, or doepfer bit reducer.

Zorlon Cannon is another favorite of mine.


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Post by os » Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:44 am

REwire wrote:ASys Comb Filter
The RS120? I was considering that module myself. What do you particularly like about it?

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Re: Essential modules for extreme noise and wild sounds?

Post by wetterberg » Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:22 am

MrTea wrote: FOH Plague bearer
Doepfer BBD --> PLL
Doepfer Ext In --> BBD
Doepfer Spring Reverb
FOH: Yes.
BBD: Perhaps... I'd personally get the new FoH delay instead :sb:
Doepfer Ext In: No. Get the a-138d instead - it'll do both attenuation AND gain, so you can use it with pedals easily, should you want to.
Spring reverb: perhaps... I think it's great for doing feedback loops, and I personally love mine, but if you're looking to do properly harsh noise it might not be the way to go?

Also, like others have said: a-138m - along with the spring reverb and a sweet delay, like the Flight of Harmony one, you will NOT run out of noises, hehe.
Then get a VCA/LPG and an lfo or three and you won't need an oscillator.

Now, if you're looking to do the musical *style* harsh noise, as compared to just "a harsh noise", then I think the Hertz Donut will be fucking epic.

Don't worry, you *will* get the modular joy, even with a severely digital oscillator.

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Post by BananaPlug » Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:58 am

The original post asked about "making extreme sounds" but we seem to be talking mostly about noise so...
Improbability Drive, Dark Star, straight up white/pink noise source, filters (Bi-N-Tic and more normal ones), ring mod, lots of LFOs and VCAs, an analog delay you can get some aliasing and flanging out of, reverb.

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Re: Essential modules for extreme noise and wild sounds?

Post by MrTea » Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:07 am

[quote="wetterberg"

BBD: Perhaps... I'd personally get the new FoH delay instead :sb:
Doepfer Ext In: No. Get the a-138d instead - it'll do both attenuation AND gain, so you can use it with pedals easily, should you want to.
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forgot about the SOS so yeah will probably go for that! any ideas when i can get one?

about the ext.in - how useful really is the envelope follower? is it likely to be missed?

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Post by e-grad » Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:34 am

A199 Spring Reverb and a A128FFB in the feedback loop.

Feed some self-oscillation (mic and speaker) vin A119 Ext In into the reverb: Instant early 80s noise.

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Post by opsysbug » Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:00 pm

A few more:
4ms Noise Swash
Harvestman Polivoks filter (ugly and slappy)
Noisering is the best !

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Re: Essential modules for extreme noise and wild sounds?

Post by os » Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:15 pm

wetterberg wrote:BBD: Perhaps... I'd personally get the new FoH delay instead :sb:
More info please! I don't see it on the FoH site.

Very happy with my Plague Bearer so excited to hear about this new module.

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Post by D/A A/D » Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:42 pm

A low frequency PWM square wave with noise modulation is a great starting point. That's all your getting, I aint givin' away any more of my secrets...

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Re: Essential modules for extreme noise and wild sounds?

Post by wetterberg » Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:06 pm

os wrote:
wetterberg wrote:BBD: Perhaps... I'd personally get the new FoH delay instead :sb:
More info please! I don't see it on the FoH site.

Very happy with my Plague Bearer so excited to hear about this new module.
Check the Flight of Harmony subsection to the muffwiggler forum.

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