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Essential modules for extreme noise and wild sounds?
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MrTea
I was just wondering what are everybody's essential modules (or combinations of) for making extreme sounds?

I probably will use my system to create some classic analogue tones, but I mainly write and perform noise - so I'm looking for a bit of advice on which euro modules are going to help me satisfy my addiction to harsh unadulterated noise twisted

I'm still on a budget so I'm probably not going to be able to afford to buy loads of the higher priced modules, but if there's one or two absolute essentials then i can probably make an exception. Mr. Green

I'd love a Hertz Donut but £350 for one oscillator is a bit above my budget cry

So yeah if anybody can give me a heads up on some good Doepfer stuff that'd be good too.

Here's what's on my hit list so far based on audio clips I've heard:

FOH Plague bearer
Doepfer BBD --> PLL
Doepfer Ext In --> BBD
Doepfer Spring Reverb

The list is looking a bit nervous I know.......

Any other suggestions for modules - or techniques?
REwire
You need nothing else with just a Hertz Donut, NoiseRing, Wogglebug or the Anti-Osc to make grungey dirty sounds.

As for effects:

WMD Geiger Counter
ASys Comb Filter
Time Sefari

Dan
apfEID
synths aren't particularly great for harsh noise, feedback loops are.

so, stilton adaptor + matrix mixer (harvestman evin or doepfer) + DOD pedals.
MrTea
The geiger counter does look very awesome. Sounds cool & not too pricey either.

This may sound stupid but I'm still swaying over whether or not to include digital modules..... I know it's probably very anal and that there are some amazing modules out there with digital components but..... I always this idea in my head that it would be an 'analogue' modular. hmmm.....
MrTea
apfEID wrote:
synths aren't particularly great for harsh noise, feedback loops are.


Totally, that's what I'm doing currently. With pedals, mixer, radio, mics etc with a bit of evolver feedbacking itself thrown in for good measure twisted

Would the stilton adaptor eliminate the need for the Doepfer Ext. in?
pixelmechanic
Hey MrTea, just sent you a pm about hook-up availability today if you want to hear some toys, I'll have some time during Monday day too...

Cheers, Jules
transfixer
me likes noise too.
razz
MrTea
anselmi
mostly of the demos I heard here are mayhem/noise/mangled stuff

I was really surprised by a few tonal and "nice" beautiful pieces of "musical" stuff, like the one posted by felix some days ago...

just check almost any sound demo at the forum, they´re plenty of what you are looking for

plague beard seems to be a great candidate
QMMG too
NoiseRing
Wogglebug
WMD Geiger Counter
Malgorythm
Doepfer bit crusher (don´t remember the exact model)

anything that can oscillate at audio rate used as a modulator (of any kind) of another audio generator in dissonant intervale could be a good source of atonal and weird stuf...if it a random genearator the "noise" component became more instantly, of course

anything that could be feedbacked both in audio and/or mpodulation could be another good source

high gain stages for overloading inputs and noise rising are a must, compressors too and of course classic dedicated overdrive/saturation modules

CVable delays with other processing stages in the feedback loop could deliver massive tones...coupling it with a dense reverb is another rewarding trick

a good routing mixer is an excellent utility tool for control any kind of noise-oriented patch...just leave a free channel to feedback the last stage of your audio path for the last extreme manipulation
theabsent
Again, Doepfer A-137-1 VC Wave Mult!
And A-138m Matrix Mixer for feedbacks.
Cybananna
If I were you, I wouldn't worry about the analog / digital thing. Use what makes great sound and don't worry about labels and analog hype.

The Hertz Donut is digital. So are other great noise makers.

I highly recommend the Plague Bearer. Also the Malgorythm or Geiger Counter, or doepfer bit reducer.

Zorlon Cannon is another favorite of mine.
Soy Sos
Doepfer 189-1
http://www.analoguehaven.com/doepfer/a189-1/

Really capable of a lot of mayhem at a low cost.
Don't be afraid of digital modules! Here's a few examples:

http://share.ovi.com/media/soysos.public/soysos.10001
http://share.ovi.com/media/soysos.public/soysos.10003
http://share.ovi.com/media/soysos.public/soysos.10004
http://share.ovi.com/media/soysos.public/soysos.10005
http://share.ovi.com/media/soysos.public/SoySos.10015
http://share.ovi.com/media/soysos.public/SoySos.10087
os
REwire wrote:
ASys Comb Filter


The RS120? I was considering that module myself. What do you particularly like about it?
wetterberg
MrTea wrote:

FOH Plague bearer
Doepfer BBD --> PLL
Doepfer Ext In --> BBD
Doepfer Spring Reverb

FOH: Yes.
BBD: Perhaps... I'd personally get the new FoH delay instead SlayerBadger!
Doepfer Ext In: No. Get the a-138d instead - it'll do both attenuation AND gain, so you can use it with pedals easily, should you want to.
Spring reverb: perhaps... I think it's great for doing feedback loops, and I personally love mine, but if you're looking to do properly harsh noise it might not be the way to go?

Also, like others have said: a-138m - along with the spring reverb and a sweet delay, like the Flight of Harmony one, you will NOT run out of noises, hehe.
Then get a VCA/LPG and an lfo or three and you won't need an oscillator.

Now, if you're looking to do the musical *style* harsh noise, as compared to just "a harsh noise", then I think the Hertz Donut will be fucking epic.

Don't worry, you *will* get the modular joy, even with a severely digital oscillator.
haiku-ish







http://experimentalistsanonymous.com/board/index.php?PHPSESSID=01656ee 3b82befdb0e2db545b6b200c7&topic=134.0
BananaPlug
The original post asked about "making extreme sounds" but we seem to be talking mostly about noise so...
Improbability Drive, Dark Star, straight up white/pink noise source, filters (Bi-N-Tic and more normal ones), ring mod, lots of LFOs and VCAs, an analog delay you can get some aliasing and flanging out of, reverb.
MrTea
[quote="wetterberg"

BBD: Perhaps... I'd personally get the new FoH delay instead SlayerBadger!
Doepfer Ext In: No. Get the a-138d instead - it'll do both attenuation AND gain, so you can use it with pedals easily, should you want to.
[/quote]

forgot about the SOS so yeah will probably go for that! any ideas when i can get one?

about the ext.in - how useful really is the envelope follower? is it likely to be missed?
MrTea
Soy Sos wrote:
Doepfer 189-1
http://www.analoguehaven.com/doepfer/a189-1/

Really capable of a lot of mayhem at a low cost.
Don't be afraid of digital modules! Here's a few examples:

http://share.ovi.com/media/soysos.public/soysos.10001
http://share.ovi.com/media/soysos.public/soysos.10003
http://share.ovi.com/media/soysos.public/soysos.10004
http://share.ovi.com/media/soysos.public/soysos.10005
http://share.ovi.com/media/soysos.public/SoySos.10015
http://share.ovi.com/media/soysos.public/SoySos.10087


I like this a lot!
e-grad
A199 Spring Reverb and a A128FFB in the feedback loop.

Feed some self-oscillation (mic and speaker) vin A119 Ext In into the reverb: Instant early 80s noise.
opsysbug
A few more:
4ms Noise Swash
Harvestman Polivoks filter (ugly and slappy)
Noisering is the best !
os
wetterberg wrote:
BBD: Perhaps... I'd personally get the new FoH delay instead SlayerBadger!

More info please! I don't see it on the FoH site.

Very happy with my Plague Bearer so excited to hear about this new module.
D/A A/D
A low frequency PWM square wave with noise modulation is a great starting point. That's all your getting, I aint givin' away any more of my secrets...

razz
mono-poly
Noisering, Wavemultiplier, Polyvoks vcf
JohnLRice
MrTea wrote:


HEY! How come Bevis' shirt doesn't say Metalica? seriously, i just don't get it
wetterberg
os wrote:
wetterberg wrote:
BBD: Perhaps... I'd personally get the new FoH delay instead SlayerBadger!

More info please! I don't see it on the FoH site.

Very happy with my Plague Bearer so excited to hear about this new module.
Check the Flight of Harmony subsection to the muffwiggler forum.

smile
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