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The modules that should exist (but don't)
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Daisuk
Do you have any ideas for a module that really should exist, that doesn't? I have a couple of utility modules that I'd love to have, that I haven't really found anywhere.

Quad Slew Limiter - would love to have a simple and slim slew limiter to pair with my Pressure Points. 4 inputs, 4 outputs, 4 knobs, no need for any CV control. Would be the perfect partner for a Pressure Points. Doepfer has a module that can do two signals at the same time. 4 would be better. wink

Quad panner - I know there are a few modules in the making, and quite a few around already (The Circuit Abbey one, and the upcoming Praga, for instance), but the Circuit Abbey can only output one stereo signal and has no CV control, and the Praga is huuuge. What about one module with say 4 inputs, 4 CV control inputs, 4 outputs, 4 knobs. I know that module has to be of some size, but surely it can be slimmed down somewhat if the designed is streamlined. I don't really know, I'm just thinking there should probably be a way. wink

Anyway - if you have an idea for a module you'd like to see - let's hear it!
itege
For your panner idea wouldn't you have to have 8 outputs for the 4 inputs to be panned? Or are you talking 2 stereo pairs?
Daisuk
I might not understand something very basic about panning and audio signals , but wouldn't it be possible to say pan an incoming mono signal a bit left of center, and simply output that signal to an audio mixer as a panned signal, and let that final audio mixer take care of the stereo output?
sempervirent
Daisuk wrote:
Do you have any ideas for a module that really should exist, that doesn't?

Yes, quite a few!
ben_hex
Daisuk if you want stereo you need two outputs so you can't have 4 ins with panning and individual 4 outputs. With one in and one out there no panning to do. As itege said you need 8 outputs. So 4 mono ins and 4 stereo outs (8 actual outputs, input 1 left out input 1 right out and so on). So you'd have 16 jacks, 4 ins, 4 cvs, 8 outputs. But without any mixing or anything this doesn't seem useful to me. Just take the input straight to a mixer and just pan it a bit to the left or whatever.

The Praga isn't huge for what it packs in (presuming its coming soon!), 4 channels with cv-able level, pan, manual knobs and two send and returns. Well packed in I think.
dude
Daisuk wrote:


Quad Slew Limiter - would love to have a simple and slim slew limiter to pair with my Pressure Points. 4 inputs, 4 outputs, 4 knobs, no need for any CV control. Would be the perfect partner for a Pressure Points. Doepfer has a module that can do two signals at the same time. 4 would be better. wink



doesn't doepfer have a quad slew in their vocoder series? and really a maths is a pretty good pp companion imo.
Daisuk
ben_hex wrote:
Daisuk if you want stereo you need two outputs so you can't have 4 ins with panning and individual 4 outputs. With one in and one out there no panning to do. As itege said you need 8 outputs. So 4 mono ins and 4 stereo outs (8 actual outputs, input 1 left out input 1 right out and so on). So you'd have 16 jacks, 4 ins, 4 cvs, 8 outputs. But without any mixing or anything this doesn't seem useful to me. Just take the input straight to a mixer and just pan it a bit to the left or whatever.

The Praga isn't huge for what it packs in (presuming its coming soon!), 4 channels with cv-able level, pan, manual knobs and two send and returns. Well packed in I think.


Ok, thanks for clarifying. I thought you might be able to transfer a panned mono signal from one module to output it through a stereo module somehow, but it does sound a bit nonsensical when I think about it. :p The Praga looks very nice, indeed!

dude - do you know which module that is? I already have a Maths, and love to pair it with my PP, but it can only slew two signals.
daverj
dude wrote:
doesn't doepfer have a quad slew in their vocoder series?


5-channel attenuator, offset, and slew limiter. The A-129/3. It requires an A-129/4 to control the slew.
Abraxis
Isn't the Planar a quad panner, among other things?
L.C.O.
4HP gate/CV delay.

1. Send a gate to the input.
2. Set the delay time (a knob and CV control over the delay time).
3. Gate comes out of the output after the set delay time.

That's all.
Jimmersound
L.C.O. wrote:
4HP gate/CV delay.

1. Send a gate to the input.
2. Set the delay time (a knob and CV control over the delay time).
3. Gate comes out of the output after the set delay time.

That's all.


Check out the Circuit Abbey Tripfire. thumbs up

Might be what you want.
JohnLRice
I don't see why a 4 input 4 output VC panner wouldn't work! thumbs up

At zero CV in:
input 1 is in output 1 100%
input 2 is in output 2 100%
input 3 is in output 3 100%
input 4 is in output 4 100%

As positive voltage increases the input is panned to the next highest numbered output, say for argument's sake 1 volt per full shift to the next step. Negative voltage might pan in the opposite direction.

The tricky part may be getting inputs to pan from output 4 to output 1? hmmm..... Maybe some sort of 'through-zero' modulation might be good for this? Or maybe X and Y CV inputs might be workable to create lissajous type modulations so you can get the outputs rotating in a continuous direction etc.?

First person to manufacture one of these in 5U or eurorack is welcome to send me one for testing! Mr. Green
sloth713
I have no idea if it is possible but something like the quantum rainbow 2 or Liivatera Noise Source in 2HP.

Edit also a 2 HP module with a buffered multiple and unity mixer would be cool.
strettara
I would like an LFO with a digital readout so I could set it precisely to cycle once every 23 seconds or whatever. Something like a z3000, but as an LFO - cycle times from say 0,0005 Hz (around 30 minutes) to 50 Hz.
euromorcego
Quote:
The modules that should exist (but doesn't)

well, that would be XAOC Praga, Mutable Instruments Peaks, Intellijel Pulse Tornado .... and a few more.

otherwise something in 2hp what is already available in 4hp is not an overly exciting addition to eurorackland.

i think on the digitial side there are still a lot possibilities unexplored. As for a more down to earth stuff stuff, i would like to see a truly modular mixer, that is: i can add channel strips as i wish, mono, stereo, with CV, without, with pan or aux, without. And as many channels as I want, not a pre-defined number of 4.

as for the panner: doepfer announced once a very interesting module (think it would be great to handle drums): http://www.doepfer.de/a1352.htm

There you would have your quad panner. But there was zero interest, so it never got produced.
analoglsd
strettara wrote:
I would like an LFO with a digital readout so I could set it precisely to cycle once every 23 seconds or whatever. Something like a z3000, but as an LFO - cycle times from say 0,0005 Hz (around 30 minutes) to 50 Hz.


Fuck yeah. Never thought about it in those terms, but now you've done gone and broadened my horizons.
I use really long LFO's all the time, usually through Pam's to QPLFO, but I always have to listen to each division first to make sure it's long enough. Something more direct would be sick!
JohnLRice
strettara wrote:
I would like an LFO with a digital readout so I could set it precisely to cycle once every 23 seconds or whatever. Something like a z3000, but as an LFO - cycle times from say 0,0005 Hz (around 30 minutes) to 50 Hz.
That would be really useful! thumbs up

Another thing that might be cool, is a Coordinated Universal Time event generator. (see http://www.hamuniverse.com/utctime.html ) It probably wouldn't be practical to build a good enough radio receiver into a module . . although there are lots of reasonably priced clocks and watches that have it. hmmm..... Anyway, coordinated world wide music events could be orchestrated, time of day interactive sound installations could use it, internet concerts/jams could use it etc.
narwhal
spectral modules please.
analoglsd
JohnLRice wrote:

Another thing that might be cool, is a Coordinated Universal Time event generator. (see http://www.hamuniverse.com/utctime.html ) It probably wouldn't be practical to build a good enough radio receiver into a module . . although there are lots of reasonably priced clocks and watches that have it. hmmm..... Anyway, coordinated world wide music events could be orchestrated, time of day interactive sound installations could use it, internet concerts/jams could use it etc.



YES!!!...and the seconds clock will put out a trigger so everyone is in sync!!!
Syncopated solstice jams, holiday jams, birthday jams...we could change the world!
JLR is right on! thumbs up
You're a fucking saint for even proposing something like this.
When I saw the thread title I was like, "What does my system need?", but you're like, "What does the Community at Large need?".
Respect. SlayerBadger!
ETP
since i have the a-152 i think that would be cool: a split Version of the 152.

vc digital gate selector (maybe with two gates?)
vc 8 channel t&h (s&h)
vc 8 channel Switch bidirection (i think i saw an interesting one here yesterday)

to save space maybe 6 or 7 channels would be enough.

and of course a nice 4hp voltage and gate controllable shift Register with gate control (plus Switch) for sequence lenght. 4 5 7 steps????

but thats not really new. i imagine that gate/Trigger moduls could be done with new Features. something like this "euclid" thing
plogbidman
An 8-Channel mixer to go with the a-161.
Daisuk
[quote="euromorcego"]
Quote:

as for the panner: doepfer announced once a very interesting module (think it would be great to handle drums): http://www.doepfer.de/a1352.htm

There you would have your quad panner. But there was zero interest, so it never got produced.


Whaaat? They never produced that? Looks like a great module. Damn.

Lots of good suggestions here. A universally synced clock module sounds really cool. I've also always been a bit annoyed with LFO's in all types of synths, you more or less always have to guess its intervals (or listen to it closely for a long time, if you want a long LFO), so strettara's suggestion sounds very useful.
maudibe
A simple request.

A *simple* high quality panning mixer, 8 inputs with pan, two outputs with level control. Not cv controlled, no auxys. Just a simple mixer, preferably with a small hp size. Even if it means using mini pots.

Function, to allow you to easily work with 8 mono sources and place them in stereo for a 'global' out put for your rig.

I am currently using a MFB Drum-98 to do this... but I reckon it could be better.

The big toys like the dub mix are excellent, but hugely expensive once expanded to do the full monty. And also very BIG
L.C.O.
Jimmersound wrote:
L.C.O. wrote:
4HP gate/CV delay.

1. Send a gate to the input.
2. Set the delay time (a knob and CV control over the delay time).
3. Gate comes out of the output after the set delay time.

That's all.


Check out the Circuit Abbey Tripfire. thumbs up

Might be what you want.


Tripfire is very close, but not it.
I bought it, then returned it.
If memory serves me right there were two main problems: it is a multifunction module, but does not retain the settings after startup, so it had to be manually reset every time. And, it was not reliably consistent in behavior (as in, it did not always respond the same way to the same signal).

Anyway. Good call, but not the module I would love to see! :-)
conscious
A-157 or similiar, and a bigger bytom
stike
A module that prints money - with CV controls for nationality and denomination.
tonepanic
maudibe wrote:
A simple request.

A *simple* high quality panning mixer, 8 inputs with pan, two outputs with level control. Not cv controlled, no auxys. Just a simple mixer, preferably with a small hp size. Even if it means using mini pots.

Function, to allow you to easily work with 8 mono sources and place them in stereo for a 'global' out put for your rig.

I am currently using a MFB Drum-98 to do this... but I reckon it could be better.

The big toys like the dub mix are excellent, but hugely expensive once expanded to do the full monty. And also very BIG


+1. I really want a simple panning mixer to use as a sub-mix before my DAW. I don't care about aux sends, but it would be really nice to have CV control over levels. I'm considering dubmix, but some of the features seem overkill, and it's only 4 channels.

Another idea I had the other day which is dead simple (I will probably end up DIY-ing it myself at some point), is a set of attenuators with a large amount of attenuation, for fine grained control. Maybe fully clockwise would give 1/10 attenuation. Especially with pitch modulation, it is sometimes hard to dial in exactly what I want, and I end up using 2 attenuators in series, which eats up my existing attenuators.
morekid
ha! I could totally use a 4hp 'keyboard' module with, say, 1 and half octave.

Would make for a quick and dirty note trigger, been looking for something like it in the last days.
sloth713
morekid wrote:
ha! I could totally use a 4hp 'keyboard' module with, say, 1 and half octave.

Would make for a quick and dirty note trigger, been looking for something like it in the last days.


Welcome to Muffwiggler! nanners

Check out the Soundmachines LS1lightstrip or Pulplogic Ribbon. They may not be exactly what you are looking for but they should be able to fulfill your needs.
duck1887
maudibe wrote:
A simple request.

A *simple* high quality panning mixer, 8 inputs with pan, two outputs with level control. Not cv controlled, no auxys. Just a simple mixer, preferably with a small hp size. Even if it means using mini pots.

Function, to allow you to easily work with 8 mono sources and place them in stereo for a 'global' out put for your rig.

I am currently using a MFB Drum-98 to do this... but I reckon it could be better.

The big toys like the dub mix are excellent, but hugely expensive once expanded to do the full monty. And also very BIG


This sounds like the Circuit Abbey Unify + Expander, which gives you 8 channels panned (no CV, no aux) @ 20hp/$400 total, which isn't SO bad. Still, mini pots would be a small price to pay on a hypothetical 10hp/$200 guy which does the same thing.
acidbob
All modules d'oh!
numan7
JohnLRice wrote:
I don't see why a 4 input 4 output VC panner wouldn't work! thumbs up

At zero CV in:
input 1 is in output 1 100%
input 2 is in output 2 100%
input 3 is in output 3 100%
input 4 is in output 4 100%

As positive voltage increases the input is panned to the next highest numbered output, say for argument's sake 1 volt per full shift to the next step. Negative voltage might pan in the opposite direction.

The tricky part may be getting inputs to pan from output 4 to output 1?


hmmm..... well, this set-up:



....could be patched to do just that (so there you go!) -- and the VCAM can be purchased in kit form....

I'd really love to see someone like sduck's or SSL's take on combining the above (i.e. hard-wiring the A-144 MC outputs into the VCAMatrix cv-inputs, removing or hiding all the VCAM mini-pots, adapting voltages, etc) into a quad vc-pannning matrix!!!!

cheers
euromorcego
Quote:
I could totally use a 4hp 'keyboard' module with, say, 1 and half octave.

CGS has one, but DIY and not 4hp. The circuit looks pretty simple:

http://www.cgs.synth.net/modules/cgs10_pedal.html

but i agree, a lightstrip, and attenuator and a quantizer will get you close.
maudibe
Yea, for the mixer, I wouldn't mind the mini pots...because the way I see it is not so much as a wiggling thing... but more as a utility just to get your complex patch into the DAW with some stereo feel to it.

But nice clean quality is a must with plenty of headroom.

Please do this builders. Auxys and more channels could always be in the expander modules.

I'd even buy it in a kit with a front panel. Quite capable of building my own from scratch, but to get it looking pro with a proper panel could be expensive for the scratch builder.
evs
numan7 wrote:

....could be patched to do just that (so there you go!) -- and the VCAM can be purchased in kit form....
cheers


the vcam can be purchased in kit form? are you sure?
lego
I'd love a simple quad LFO with attenuators, mostly to subtly FM VCOs for pitch vibrato.

Some of my VCOs don't have attenuators on their FM ins, and some are so sensitive they need external attenuation anyway. I end up using overpowered LFOs and lots of attenuators just to impart a little animation to waveforms. Seems like it would be a simple module: 4 rate pots, 4 attenuator pots, 4 outputs.

Anyone know of such a module, should I consider DIY, or should I just buy moar LFOs and attenuators?
stillmonk
Quote:
I'd love a simple quad LFO with attenuators, mostly to subtly FM VCOs for pitch vibrato.

Some of my VCOs don't have attenuators on their FM ins, and some are so sensitive they need external attenuation anyway. I end up using overpowered LFOs and lots of attenuators just to impart a little animation to waveforms. Seems like it would be a simple module: 4 rate pots, 4 attenuator pots, 4 outputs.

Anyone know of such a module, should I consider DIY, or should I just buy moar LFOs and attenuators?



Not simple, but phenominal... Modcan Quad LFO!!! we're not worthy ModCan!
Daisuk
maudibe wrote:
A simple request.

A *simple* high quality panning mixer, 8 inputs with pan, two outputs with level control. Not cv controlled, no auxys. Just a simple mixer, preferably with a small hp size. Even if it means using mini pots.

Function, to allow you to easily work with 8 mono sources and place them in stereo for a 'global' out put for your rig.

I am currently using a MFB Drum-98 to do this... but I reckon it could be better.

The big toys like the dub mix are excellent, but hugely expensive once expanded to do the full monty. And also very BIG


I'd be all over that too. CV control would be a bonus, but not necessary. 8 inputs with pan control and stereo out, as few HP as possible, damn, that would be a great one.
lego
stillmonk wrote:
Not simple, but phenominal... Modcan Quad LFO!!! we're not worthy ModCan!


I've got one and love it, but it sure feels like overkill to use all that power just for a little vibrato / animation across some VCOs. I typically reserve the Modcan for more complex and interesting duties.
tonepanic
duck1887 wrote:
This sounds like the Circuit Abbey Unify + Expander, which gives you 8 channels panned (no CV, no aux) @ 20hp/$400 total, which isn't SO bad. Still, mini pots would be a small price to pay on a hypothetical 10hp/$200 guy which does the same thing.


Thanks for pointing this out, somehow I completely missed this guy when I was looking for panning mixers. For my purposes, I think I will consider Unify plus a Linix, which is nice because the Linix would add additional flexibility to the setup.
daverj
duck1887 wrote:
maudibe wrote:
A simple request.

A *simple* high quality panning mixer, 8 inputs with pan, two outputs with level control. Not cv controlled, no auxys. Just a simple mixer, preferably with a small hp size. Even if it means using mini pots.

Function, to allow you to easily work with 8 mono sources and place them in stereo for a 'global' out put for your rig.

I am currently using a MFB Drum-98 to do this... but I reckon it could be better.

The big toys like the dub mix are excellent, but hugely expensive once expanded to do the full monty. And also very BIG


This sounds like the Circuit Abbey Unify + Expander, which gives you 8 channels panned (no CV, no aux) @ 20hp/$400 total, which isn't SO bad. Still, mini pots would be a small price to pay on a hypothetical 10hp/$200 guy which does the same thing.


Changing from regular pots to mini pots and a narrower panel won't cut the price of the module in half, assuming the circuitry inside is still the same. In fact it makes it harder to manufacture, so the price would probably be a bit higher, not lower.
euromorcego
Quote:
I'd love a simple quad LFO with attenuators

what is wrong with the doepfer A-143-3 http://www.modulargrid.net/e/doepfer-a-143-3 ?
A few attenuators should be easy to add.

Otherwise, there are plenty of simple simple lfo available:
The triples (but mostly as DIY kit, I think): http://www.modulargrid.net/e/d-machinery-triples
EMW from Brasil: http://www.modulargrid.net/e/emw-lfo-3x-tri
and a favorite of mine: http://www.modulargrid.net/e/eowave-zone-b-f

The eowave is digital, so not at smooth (and 5hp, so two of them would be 10hp). But each of them is rather low-cost, at least dual, and you can always add an attenuator. Also Pittsburgh has a simple dual LFO. Barton Musical Circuits has a pcb for a dual lfo. Plenty of options to choose from ...
euromorcego
Quote:
A *simple* high quality panning mixer, 8 inputs with pan, two outputs with level control. Not cv controlled, no auxys. Just a simple mixer, preferably with a small hp size. Even if it means using mini pots.

actually a rather simple circuit. I just did the fonik dc mixer and was surprised how few parts are needed. A stereo mixer would be a bit more parts, but not much.
Maybe someone from the diy section can make a pcb wink Something like the midi micro mixer, whis is tiny, but useful.
lego
Thanks for the DIY tips Euro. I'll probably end up with a couple of the dual Pitts and one of their mixers for attenuation.

euromorcego wrote:
Quote:
I'd love a simple quad LFO with attenuators

what is wrong with the doepfer A-143-3 http://www.modulargrid.net/e/doepfer-a-143-3 ?
A few attenuators should be easy to add.

Otherwise, there are plenty of simple simple lfo available:
The triples (but mostly as DIY kit, I think): http://www.modulargrid.net/e/d-machinery-triples
EMW from Brasil: http://www.modulargrid.net/e/emw-lfo-3x-tri
and a favorite of mine: http://www.modulargrid.net/e/eowave-zone-b-f

The eowave is digital, so not at smooth (and 5hp, so two of them would be 10hp). But each of them is rather low-cost, at least dual, and you can always add an attenuator. Also Pittsburgh has a simple dual LFO. Barton Musical Circuits has a pcb for a dual lfo. Plenty of options to choose from ...
mckenic
Stereo, 44.1kHz, 16bit, 10 second live sampler with SD card for optional playback of loaded wav/aiff files.

A Laser Oscilloscope and the monitoring module to send sound to it (like the one Richard had in that Tokyo Festival live performance).
stillmonk
lego wrote:
stillmonk wrote:
Not simple, but phenominal... Modcan Quad LFO!!! we're not worthy ModCan!


I've got one and love it, but it sure feels like overkill to use all that power just for a little vibrato / animation across some VCOs. I typically reserve the Modcan for more complex and interesting duties.


Definitely overkill! I just think more people should check the module out so I try to recommend it for a ton of different things thumbs up
Funky40
mckenic wrote:
Stereo, 44.1kHz, 16bit, 10 second live sampler with SD card for optional playback of loaded wav/aiff files.

A Laser Oscilloscope and the monitoring module to send sound to it (like the one Richard had in that Tokyo Festival live performance).


my wishes too

make the sampler 16 seconds,
add a fine tune for loop start point and lenght/end point.
has to be able to speed up original speed recording, ........so probably go 96khz
Record by hitting one button, nothing else / no arm or other crappy behavior that would gets one thinking first bevore one could operate.
......a "good" record button with very defined action / click point


i take the laser too, thanks !
needs to be able to send the projection over the street into my neighbours appartment without damaging any eyes lol ..........i´m joking
malnatim
maybe this is unfeasible, but i've been wondering about the idea of a cassette tape delay module.
pcb, kit and instructions. you supply the old walkmans and cut your own tape loops.
komyta
I'd love to see something like a 6 channel 16 bits - 44.1 kHz sample player :
- the samples would be read from an SD card
- each channel would have its own trigger input and audio output
- 8 HP width

hihi
a100user
lego wrote:
I'd love a simple quad LFO with attenuators, mostly to subtly FM VCOs for pitch vibrato.

Some of my VCOs don't have attenuators on their FM ins, and some are so sensitive they need external attenuation anyway. I end up using overpowered LFOs and lots of attenuators just to impart a little animation to waveforms. Seems like it would be a simple module: 4 rate pots, 4 attenuator pots, 4 outputs.

Anyone know of such a module, should I consider DIY, or should I just buy moar LFOs and attenuators?


Try this one http://www.doepfer.de/a1434.htm when it becomes available.
Nuuj
Not hard to DIY, but someone should make a high quality 2hp, 4 channel, static high pass filter, that removes just the sub audio frequencies.
komyta
Nuuj wrote:
Not hard to DIY, but someone should make a high quality 2hp, 4 channel, static high pass filter, that removes just the sub audio frequencies.

I'm with you, such a module would be much appreciated.

What filter slope would you suggest ?
Maybe 18dB/oct, like the Low Cut filters on Mackie mixers ?
malnatim
Nuuj wrote:
Not hard to DIY, but someone should make a high quality 2hp, 4 channel, static high pass filter, that removes just the sub audio frequencies.


yes please!
os
Nuuj wrote:
Not hard to DIY, but someone should make a high quality 2hp, 4 channel, static high pass filter, that removes just the sub audio frequencies.

That's what the loudspeakers are for wink
Nuuj
os wrote:
Nuuj wrote:
Not hard to DIY, but someone should make a high quality 2hp, 4 channel, static high pass filter, that removes just the sub audio frequencies.

That's what the loudspeakers are for wink


Yeah it always happens in the end, but often audio sounds better if you do it on purpose.
I have Earthworks Mics which record sub-audio and recordings from some rooms instantly sound much better when I remove the sub audio.

I would guess that some signals might sound better, or at least different, through some filters, if the source material had sub audio removed first.
milkshake
Nuuj wrote:
os wrote:
Nuuj wrote:
Not hard to DIY, but someone should make a high quality 2hp, 4 channel, static high pass filter, that removes just the sub audio frequencies.

That's what the loudspeakers are for wink


Yeah it always happens in the end, but often audio sounds better if you do it on purpose.
I have Earthworks Mics which record sub-audio and recordings from some rooms instantly sound much better when I remove the sub audio.

I would guess that some signals might sound better, or at least different, through some filters, if the source material had sub audio removed first.

Just use a highpass filter.
If you don't have a highpass filter, patch one by subtracting a lowpass filter from its input.
Or make a passive highpass filter by inserting a capacitor in the signal path. The A-180 is great for this.
Nuuj
milkshake wrote:
Nuuj wrote:
os wrote:
Nuuj wrote:
Not hard to DIY, but someone should make a high quality 2hp, 4 channel, static high pass filter, that removes just the sub audio frequencies.

That's what the loudspeakers are for wink


Yeah it always happens in the end, but often audio sounds better if you do it on purpose.
I have Earthworks Mics which record sub-audio and recordings from some rooms instantly sound much better when I remove the sub audio.

I would guess that some signals might sound better, or at least different, through some filters, if the source material had sub audio removed first.

Just use a highpass filter.
If you don't have a highpass filter, patch one by subtracting a lowpass filter from its input.
Or make a passive highpass filter by inserting a capacitor in the signal path. The A-180 is great for this.


Yeah there is no shortage of ways to do this, but a simple 2hp module would be great.
komyta
Nuuj wrote:
I would guess that some signals might sound better, or at least different, through some filters, if the source material had sub audio removed first.

I've experiencd that cutting most of the content below 25 Hz or even 50 Hz made the mix sound somewhat clearer in a live PA system, without removing what I did not want to.
For next shows I'd like to experiment futher, with a higher low cut frequency, but this won't happen before a few months...

I'm thinking about a module with a switch for selecting the low cut frequency. Maybe 25, 50 and 75 Hz could be nice.
komyta
Nuuj wrote:
Yeah there is no shortage of ways to do this, but a simple 2hp module would be great.

Or something like a two channel 4HP module with switches. hihi

As I usually have between 2 and 4 voices running at the same time, I'd like to be able to add this low cut feature in my rack without using "standard" VCFs.
ETP
that static hp filter would be great. my a-101-2 kills my speakers.
but the sampler idea is great too. i mean the zoom h1 is not bigger than 8 hp.
i would add gate ins for rec and erase and play and pause. and a vc in to address 16 samples.
Nantonos
tonepanic wrote:

I really want a simple panning mixer to use as a sub-mix before my DAW. I don't care about aux sends, but it would be really nice to have CV control over levels. I'm considering dubmix, but some of the features seem overkill, and it's only 4 channels.


So, like the L-1 VC Stereo Mixer but 8 instead of 4 channels?
Nantonos
a100user wrote:
lego wrote:
I'd love a simple quad LFO with attenuators, mostly to subtly FM VCOs for pitch vibrato.

Seems like it would be a simple module: 4 rate pots, 4 attenuator pots, 4 outputs.


Try this one http://www.doepfer.de/a1434.htm when it becomes available.


The requirements were a simple quad LFO with manual rate and attenuators; and you suggest a quad VCo/VC LFO with no attenuators and 22HP?
flashheart
I love how people thunk making things smaller and half the panel width makes them automatically cheaper. eek! Can I have a simple 8 channel mixer with pans in 10HP seriously, i just don't get it
wellurban
Nuuj wrote:
Yeah there is no shortage of ways to do this, but a simple 2hp module would be great.


Something like Navs' quad passive slew (http://navsmodularlab.blogspot.co.nz/2010/07/diy-quad-slew.html), but wired as HPFs rather than LPF, and starting with a 2hp mult rather than a 4hp one? Definitely simple to DIY, but I can imagine a market for something like this if it's cheap enough.

Or rather than 4 the same, a 2hp passive utility module with one AC-coupler like you're after, a slew/click-remover like Navs', and a couple of passive gate-to trigger units with different trigger lengths. Easy, compact, and handy.
matttech
ultimate noise module:

1 - analog noise
2 - digital noise
3 - clock input (for creating random gates from digital noise)
4 - 1v/oct input - for producing pitched noise

similar things exist, but nothing in a small format, with both analog and digital noise
euromorcego
since i just posted in the diy section: one module that should exist but doesn't is definitely a cv distributor, as simple utility.

typically i want to distribute a cv to multiple destinations, usually in at least one unmodified form and 1-2 attenuated (think of pitch cv going to an osc, and also filter and also modulates decay time of an envelope).

Since manufactures increasingly go for minimal hp, inputs with attenuators are often not plenty.

so I would like to plug the cv into a cv-distributor, and get a buffered mult, a copy with attenuator, and maybe on with attenuator.

here is a (primitive and unskilled) mockup:



left version is probably to large. Right version would be 6hp and would take 2 inputs and distribute each to one mult, one attenuator, one attenuverter.
I thought making the whole thing entirely passive (with teo attenuators, or using a fink chicklet for the attenuator, and the rest passive). I know that I can do the whole thing with individual modules, but to have basically a multiply with built-in attenuator would simplify things a bit (sometimes).

see also: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1608126
Summa
have you tried the Intellijel Triatt? does all the above or am I missing something?
euromorcego
Quote:
have you tried the Intellijel Triatt? does all the above or am I missing something?

No, the Triatt does nothing like this. The triatt is a triple attenuverter. It has one input and one output per channel. It does not distribute anything.

It would be different if the inputs were normaled to each other, so that a CV plugged into channel one is available at all three output in different (attenverted) strength.

But this is not what the triatt does. The essential thing are one input and multiple outputs.

Of course it can be done with available modules (I do all the time), but it would be neat in a single utility module.

edit: i meant 'available modules', not models. wink
MRoyce
euromorcego wrote:
Quote:
have you tried the Intellijel Triatt? does all the above or am I missing something?

No, the Triatt does nothing like this. The triatt is a triple attenuverter. It has one input and one output per channel. It does not distribute anything.

It would be different if the inputs were normaled to each other, so that a CV plugged into channel one is available at all three output in different (attenverted) strength.

But this is not what the triatt does. The essential thing are one input and multiple outputs.

Of course it can be done with available models (I do all the time), but it would be neat in a single utility module.


Wouldn't a matrix mixer do all of that?
Summa
euromorcego wrote:

No, the Triatt does nothing like this. The triatt is a triple attenuverter. It has one input and one output per channel. It does not distribute anything.



well, it is not only a attenuverter, it attenuates, inverts and generate DC with nothing plugged in and sums all channels to one if need be, just to make things clear to others. But yeah, I get your point with your proposed module.
euromorcego
Quote:
Wouldn't a matrix mixer do all of that?

yes and no. Or, rather: yes, but very poorly at the expense of a lot hp.

A typical matrix mixer has 4 input (let's say), these are mixed to 4 outputs. So if I want to distribute one CV source to 4 destinations I can do so with a matrix mixer.

But if I add another CV, the output will either be a mix of both cv, or i just have two channels for each input. I cannot distribute the second input to another 4 outputs independently.

And this is what I want: one input is replicated 3-4 times, with the option to attenuate/attenuvert. So for each input, there must be at least 3-4 individual outputs. This is not what a matrix mixer is good for.
visible cow
I would like to see a switch module that would work with pairs of 1v/octave cv and gates. Does that make sense? Something like a mutinator but each switch would turn a gate AND cv source on or off. CV control would also be rad.
ben_hex
More simple EQs. You can get cheap guitar pedal graphic EQs, still surprised to not see some slapped behind a panel.

... I have a feeling they're coming though.
tonepanic
ben_hex wrote:
More simple EQs. You can get cheap guitar pedal graphic EQs, still surprised to not see some slapped behind a panel.

... I have a feeling they're coming though.


+1. I end up doing all my EQ with VSTs, but I'd love to have some more shaping options available at my fingertips while patching, especially for more drastic changes where the EQ becomes part of the sound design. Doesn't need to be "boutique"...
MRoyce
euromorcego wrote:
Quote:
Wouldn't a matrix mixer do all of that?

yes and no. Or, rather: yes, but very poorly at the expense of a lot hp.

A typical matrix mixer has 4 input (let's say), these are mixed to 4 outputs. So if I want to distribute one CV source to 4 destinations I can do so with a matrix mixer.

But if I add another CV, the output will either be a mix of both cv, or i just have two channels for each input. I cannot distribute the second input to another 4 outputs independently.

And this is what I want: one input is replicated 3-4 times, with the option to attenuate/attenuvert. So for each input, there must be at least 3-4 individual outputs. This is not what a matrix mixer is good for.


Gotcha, I like this idea a lot, actually. Basically a 1 to 4 bipolar multiplexer. I'm wondering if this isn't fairly simple to do DIY? It could be done completely passive if it doesn't need to be bipolar, I think, a mult with an attenuators on each output.
wavefold
stike wrote:
A module that prints money - with CV controls for nationality and denomination.


THIS Guinness ftw!
kcmyoung
Is there a module that will turn MIDI or multiple CV inputs into an arpeggiated CV output? This would allow you to play "chords" on an external keyboard with just one oscillator smile I guess it'd need to be clocked and it'd be nice to be able to select from different arp patterns/modes.

I can't tell from the description if this module does this:

http://flame.fortschritt-musik.de/news_Arpeggiator_module.htm

My conclusion is it does everything BUT this?
euromorcego
Quote:
I'm wondering if this isn't fairly simple to do DIY?

yes, this is what i was looking into. Basically it is a passive mult with two passive attenuators: one input, one passive mult, and two attenuated outputs, shouldn't be more than 4hp.

I am only a bit worried about voltage drop. In a passive build, it may affect the other outputs if one of the attenuators is used/adjusted (crosstalk). Otherwise, voltage drop is not too critical, i imagined more a situation where, for example, an envelope is distributed to a VCA, a filter, and maybe a further destination, each with different strength.

Of course, an active version would also be nice, with one input, one buffered out, and two attenuverters, all in a 4hp footprint, similar to the Manhattan modules.
euromorcego
Quote:
Is there a module that will turn MIDI or multiple CV inputs into an arpeggiated CV output?

i think there a few of those available (each doing something slightly different). For example, check Bartons CV ARPEGGIATOR : "A very cool little circuit for turning single notes into arpeggios in your modular synth. It features controls for range, note sets, and movement."
http://www.bartonmusicalcircuits.com/arpeggiator/index.html

But if you just want a basic arppegiator, Yarns has one included, or you use a simple switch that is clocked, up to 4 CV inputs are distributed sequentially to one output, like the A-151 or the new Erica Synth module (8 inputs, you can also skip steps).
kcmyoung
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euromorcego
The modules that should be (but isn't) is a simple eurorack tuner with included precision voltage source/adder. Basically a rotary switch that selects 1/12V-11/12V, an octave select switch. You then can patch the output into an osc and connect the oscillator to the tuner input. And there is a second input, so that the reference voltage source can also be use as an octave switcher. Maybe also a buffered mult for the osc input so you can continue patching from there.

Like single Beast's Chalkboard but with a small tuner included, and the voltage source includes 1/12V steps as well as octaves, and not more than 6hp.
de_raaf
i'm also for more eq in the modular, more as working, utility stuff, no need super high studio quality, like some dual 3 band or dual graphic, so you can do serial and parallel stuff etc
something more compact, i love my res eq, but its hard to find a place for it in the performance case
klo
a multi effect module with lots of cv and preset saving , similar to the vst sugarbytes turnado would be nice !
allert
I think someone said it earlier in the thread but a simple "drum" sampler would be nice:

4 samples 16bit/48k to be read from sd card
4 trigger ins
4 outs

maybe: 4 cv inputs for start point, 4 cv inputs for pitch.
maybe maybe: 4 attenuators for pitch cv inputs
rhizomatik
de_raaf wrote:
i'm also for more eq in the modular, more as working, utility stuff, no need super high studio quality, like some dual 3 band or dual graphic, so you can do serial and parallel stuff etc
something more compact, i love my res eq, but its hard to find a place for it in the performance case


Would also love more EQ options in euro.
Why not look to this classic for inspiration

conscious
allert wrote:
I think someone said it earlier in the thread but a simple "drum" sampler would be nice:

4 samples 16bit/48k to be read from sd card
4 trigger ins
4 outs

maybe: 4 cv inputs for start point, 4 cv inputs for pitch.
maybe maybe: 4 attenuators for pitch cv inputs

yes please!

and more 8/16 step trigger sequencers for drums please
analogue01
I'd like to see a new quad LPG on the market.

Also a 4hp ASR like the old Plan B M 23.

And maybe a voltage controlled comb filter, too.
allert
Voltage controlled comb filter you say? http://www.analoguesystems.co.uk/modules/rs120.htm
mudlogger
analogue01 wrote:

Also a 4hp ASR like the old Plan B M 23.


http://www.analoguehaven.com/elbydesigns/cgs734/
Daisuk
Hell yes to -

- Equalizers
- Quad LPG's
- 4 samples/triggers/ins/outs
- Clocked digital delays (long delays)
mudlogger
A proper granular sampler - hurry up Mr Harvestman!
analogue01
allert wrote:
Voltage controlled comb filter you say? http://www.analoguesystems.co.uk/modules/rs120.htm


I always forget about analoge systems. cool.

mudlogger wrote:
analogue01 wrote:

Also a 4hp ASR like the old Plan B M 23.


http://www.analoguehaven.com/elbydesigns/cgs734/


Last time I checked it's way too deep for my case. There's an ASR thread somewhere where we all go around in circles about this.
ETP
mfb megazwerg delay section as one euro module. not very good audio quality but freeze option is super great
mapmap
i would LOVE to see a high quality looper/sampler with...
-speed control that can lock to 25%/50%/100%/200% or smooth.
-up to 20 seconds of recording at 100% + unlimited overdubbing.
-movable A/B loop points.
-CV control over most (if not all) parameters with bi-polar attenuation
-priced under $400

there are at least a half dozen guitar pedals that do most of these things in the $100-$200 range. the eventide timefactor is the only one that i know of with the movable loop points and that one costs a bit more.

i think that there is a big hole in the eurorack sampler/looper department but i am pretty confidant that we will start to see some interesting things pop up in the next two years.
mskala
Sixteen basic sawtooth VCOs in a 4x4 grid. Nine 1v/oct control inputs: one for each row and column and one global to the whole grid. Some kind of normalling/offset scheme so that you can feed knob-adjustable fixed voltages into those inputs instead of needing a separate control voltage generator. 25 outputs: each of the oscillators, each row and column mixture, and global. Patching into a single-oscillator output removes it from the row and global mix outputs.

This would be big and expensive, but it's not really any more circuitry than let's say an analog vocoder. And depending on how it's patched, it could generate many exciting kinds of chords, super-saws, and polyphony. It could probably be done cheaper digitally, but where's the fun in that? I'll probably build it some day.
Flohr
On the EQ tip, how bout kill switches for low, mid and high? Like on some DJ mixers? I have an old Numark that has these: Pull down and it's like a pitch wheel where it returns to center on release (so playable for quick cuts) flip it up and it holds. Could be very useful and playable in a modular context. Would be fine without CV, but also cool to be able to hit the individual cuts with gates/triggers.

Another idea is a very short stutter delay/looper. Like a hold or freeze. But just that. Starts loop on gate high, record stops when gate is low. Seperate gate for play on and off. Obviously you can already do this with the larger more expensive euro delays and loopers but I think this would work on a smaller scale. No memory, no banked loops. Short time. Just for glitchy stutters and rolls and shit.
analogue01
mapmap wrote:
i would LOVE to see a high quality looper/sampler with...
-speed control that can lock to 25%/50%/100%/200% or smooth.
-up to 20 seconds of recording at 100% + unlimited overdubbing.
-movable A/B loop points.
-CV control over most (if not all) parameters with bi-polar attenuation
-priced under $400

there are at least a half dozen guitar pedals that do most of these things in the $100-$200 range. the eventide timefactor is the only one that i know of with the movable loop points and that one costs a bit more.

i think that there is a big hole in the eurorack sampler/looper department but i am pretty confidant that we will start to see some interesting things pop up in the next two years.


You need a monome aleph. It's totally not in that price range, though Dead Banana
analogue01
A range of fft based spectral modules with lots of cv control would be amazing. a full range of soundhack modules or a GRM series would blow my mind.
mapmap
analogue01 wrote:

You need a monome aleph. It's totally not in that price range, though Dead Banana


would love one... but yeah, not in the price range and also ALL GONE!
no word yet on another run. i think something else pretty cool should be coming along from them next. hyper
Seaweed Sound
Korg PS-3100 resonators in Euro format (assembled or DIY kit)
ZoeB
mangobob wrote:
Korg PS-3100 resonators in Euro format (assembled or DIY kit)


Doepfer A-127 Triple Voltage Controlled Resonance Filter, Fonitronik PS-3100 Resonators, Manhattan Analog PS-3100 Resonators... I'm not sure how close any of these are, but I have an A-127 and love its swirly goodness.
os
Daisuk wrote:
- Clocked digital delays (long delays)

How long do you want?
analogue01
mapmap wrote:
analogue01 wrote:

You need a monome aleph. It's totally not in that price range, though Dead Banana


would love one... but yeah, not in the price range and also ALL GONE!
no word yet on another run. i think something else pretty cool should be coming along from them next. hyper


Oh? They have other new projects? Very cool.

I'm sure there will be a second aleph run eventually.
Protofrangiste
euromorcego wrote:
The modules that should be (but isn't) is a simple eurorack tuner with included precision voltage source/adder. Basically a rotary switch that selects 1/12V-11/12V, an octave select switch. You then can patch the output into an osc and connect the oscillator to the tuner input. And there is a second input, so that the reference voltage source can also be use as an octave switcher. Maybe also a buffered mult for the osc input so you can continue patching from there.

Like single Beast's Chalkboard but with a small tuner included, and the voltage source includes 1/12V steps as well as octaves, and not more than 6hp.


It´s funny I had the same idea... You could add a calibration procedure for the oscillators that don't track accurately (like on the Silent Way voice controller).
With 4 channels and VC octave switches...
Os, could you do that ? It's motherfucking bacon yo
Nuuj
analogue01 wrote:
allert wrote:
Voltage controlled comb filter you say? http://www.analoguesystems.co.uk/modules/rs120.htm


I always forget about analoge systems. cool.

mudlogger wrote:
analogue01 wrote:

Also a 4hp ASR like the old Plan B M 23.


http://www.analoguehaven.com/elbydesigns/cgs734/


Last time I checked it's way too deep for my case. There's an ASR thread somewhere where we all go around in circles about this.


This has been out for a while now: http://www.elby-designs.com/contents/en-us/p734_CGS734_-_Analog_Shift_ Register.html
flashheart
Nuuj wrote:
analogue01 wrote:
allert wrote:
Voltage controlled comb filter you say? http://www.analoguesystems.co.uk/modules/rs120.htm


I always forget about analoge systems. cool.

mudlogger wrote:
analogue01 wrote:

Also a 4hp ASR like the old Plan B M 23.


http://www.analoguehaven.com/elbydesigns/cgs734/


Last time I checked it's way too deep for my case. There's an ASR thread somewhere where we all go around in circles about this.


This has been out for a while now: http://www.elby-designs.com/contents/en-us/p734_CGS734_-_Analog_Shift_ Register.html


That's what he posted 8_) . 3" deep and 3 stage rather than 4. I wish the Quantanimator had a no quantise option when in 'ASR'mode.
concretic
Corellator - mono to stereo or stereo audio signal processor for work with spatial (delay?) based differences.

I really like how "corellator" sounds .. it should be a module for sure.
Seaweed Sound
An audio rate oscillator version of Pamela's Workout kind of like the Patch Chord except smaller. Feed it an oscillator to track and choose which notes you want on say eight outputs so you can get octaves, fifths, chords, etc.
Daisuk
os wrote:
Daisuk wrote:
- Clocked digital delays (long delays)

How long do you want?


How long can the Disting do? wink
REwire
Serge Filter!!

Bunch of CV generators but none of the actual sound of the Serge. I know Wilson Delay is on the horizon but to me, nothing in Euro land sounds like the Serge filter. I wonder if this is because STS would object to such a critical element being copied when all else so far would not lead anyone away from buying a Serge system.

Dan
os
Daisuk wrote:
How long can the Disting do? wink

750ms, but of course you could hack together a longer one if you don't mind reducing the sample rate.
Graham Hinton
Protofrangiste wrote:
euromorcego wrote:
The modules that should be (but isn't) is a simple eurorack tuner with included precision voltage source/adder. Basically a rotary switch that selects 1/12V-11/12V, an octave select switch. You then can patch the output into an osc and connect the oscillator to the tuner input. And there is a second input, so that the reference voltage source can also be use as an octave switcher. Maybe also a buffered mult for the osc input so you can continue patching from there.

Like single Beast's Chalkboard but with a small tuner included, and the voltage source includes 1/12V steps as well as octaves, and not more than 6hp.



The precision stable Calibration Reference already exists, shown here combined with another module to save HP, on its own it would be 6HP. A buffered mult is not needed because the output is not effected by adding more loads and it would normally be integrated within a PinMix or SwitchMix system which can transpose as many VCOs as are patched.



Quote:

It´s funny I had the same idea... You could add a calibration procedure for the oscillators that don't track accurately (like on the Silent Way voice controller).
With 4 channels and VC octave switches...


Although SW has the effect of calibrating VCOs what it is really doing is calibrating the computer DACs. If you transpose the output by adding another CV it may not still be in tune. What you are really asking for is the tune section of a polyphonic analogue keyboard and that really only makes economic sense combined with its own VCO bank. If you press the Tune button on a keyboard synth it mutes the outputs and and routes each VCO in turn to its frequency measuring circuitry. The VCO tuning knobs also go through the same lookup table as the keyboard. As tuning needs to be done several times as VCOs drift having to patch that up every time would put you off using it.
gliiitches
I'd like a 4 channel quantiser with a wide range of selectable scales. When you change the scale all 4 channels change together.

So, like the ADDAC. But something I feel I can buy with confidence!
ben_hex
For the record gliiitches I'm really happy with my ADDAC quantizer. Maybe I don't throw enough at it to find the problems but I've had multiple sources quantizer fine.
scottmoon
I haven't read through this whole thread but I wish there was a 4HP tap tempo LFO module. Just seems like another good utility. hmmm.....
ben_hex
Have you seen the frequency central wave runner? scottmoon no actual tap button (if that's what you're after) but its a clockable 4hp LFO. So it's got the tap tempo / locked to tempo features just no actual tap button.
scottmoon
ben_hex wrote:
Have you seen the frequency central wave runner? scottmoon no actual tap button (if that's what you're after) but its a clockable 4hp LFO. So it's got the tap tempo / locked to tempo features just no actual tap button.


Looks nice Ben but I want a dedicated tap tempo so when I'm jamming with my mates I can sink up with some rhythms if need be. My racks getting a bit tight for QPLFO or QCD. It's a pain to try to dial in the timing sometimes.
Abraxis
Intellijel Pulse Tornado seriously, i just don't get it
Ginko
I think I am most interested in modules with some kind of normalisation in them, so you get a combination of simple ideas that make something complex and different - I know that is against the spirit of modular to some degree but I like it all the same.
ubiquiphilia
Harry Partch quantiser module
listentoaheartbeat
I want a Cyclebox II with full audio bandwith control inputs and OSC 2 PM in the same quality as the internal OSC 1 TZFM. And a different input design so that the control knobs are offsets at any time, with mini-pots added for attenuation. There you have my dream VCO. And no, it's not the Shapeshifter.
maxm
Setting up a patch and palying realtime is fun. but sometimes it can be very finicky. So Some way to take the relevant modulations out of the pacth and putting them somewhere with a large dial, that only affects the relevant patch elements.

I imagine somethin like like an attenuator/vca with max and min level.

So you have one potentiometer to set the lovest level. Another to set the highest levet, and a third to set any level in between those two.


Simple example, the patch sounds good between 25% and 75% filter cutoff. So you set the low level to 25%, the hight to 75% and the large dial will then be able to go from 25% at zero to 75% at max.
SamUK
maxm wrote:
Setting up a patch and palying realtime is fun. but sometimes it can be very finicky. So Some way to take the relevant modulations out of the pacth and putting them somewhere with a large dial, that only affects the relevant patch elements.

I imagine somethin like like an attenuator/vca with max and min level.

So you have one potentiometer to set the lovest level. Another to set the highest levet, and a third to set any level in between those two.


Simple example, the patch sounds good between 25% and 75% filter cutoff. So you set the low level to 25%, the hight to 75% and the large dial will then be able to go from 25% at zero to 75% at max.

Couldn't you get a Mutable Instruments Frames to do that? (Plus a whole lot more)
ubiquiphilia
vibrator interface. daisy-chainable. Bluetooth.
Summa
SamUK wrote:
maxm wrote:
Setting up a patch and palying realtime is fun. but sometimes it can be very finicky. So Some way to take the relevant modulations out of the pacth and putting them somewhere with a large dial, that only affects the relevant patch elements.

I imagine somethin like like an attenuator/vca with max and min level.

So you have one potentiometer to set the lovest level. Another to set the highest levet, and a third to set any level in between those two.


Simple example, the patch sounds good between 25% and 75% filter cutoff. So you set the low level to 25%, the hight to 75% and the large dial will then be able to go from 25% at zero to 75% at max.

Couldn't you get a Mutable Instruments Frames to do that? (Plus a whole lot more)


It sure does! No need to look further! thumbs up
wavefold
pitchshifting-modulated-granular reverb/delay hihi
listentoaheartbeat
mr.freeman wrote:
pitchshifting-modulated-granular reverb/delay hihi


There you go.. smile

ubiquiphilia
utility tuning module with trimpots on the faceplate, for tuning as per an instrument

Picture file

these sort of things.
wavefold
listentoaheartbeat wrote:
mr.freeman wrote:
pitchshifting-modulated-granular reverb/delay hihi


There you go.. smile



all in one razz
ubiquiphilia
ubiquiphilia
that's better. (just working out how this place works)


(also filling 50 post minimum to go join the grown up table (not thst I've got pretensions to being grownup))
listentoaheartbeat
mr.freeman wrote:
listentoaheartbeat wrote:
mr.freeman wrote:
pitchshifting-modulated-granular reverb/delay hihi


There you go.. smile



all in one razz


That wouldn't be very modular, wouldn't it? razz
333
analogue01 wrote:
A range of fft based spectral modules with lots of cv control would be amazing. a full range of soundhack modules or a GRM series would blow my mind.


Yes SlayerBadger!
adolfgottmann
three A-129/3 in one module in the 20 to 24 hp range...with minipots maybe?
os
ben_hex wrote:
Have you seen the frequency central wave runner? scottmoon no actual tap button (if that's what you're after) but its a clockable 4hp LFO. So it's got the tap tempo / locked to tempo features just no actual tap button.

FWIW the disting has this too.
wavefold
os wrote:
ben_hex wrote:
Have you seen the frequency central wave runner? scottmoon no actual tap button (if that's what you're after) but its a clockable 4hp LFO. So it's got the tap tempo / locked to tempo features just no actual tap button.

FWIW the disting has this too.


+ lot more It's peanut butter jelly time! superb module indeed
Ginko
ubiquiphilia wrote:
Harry Partch quantiser module


Yes!
tuj
simple compressor that costs less than $200. I would buy like 3.
ubiquiphilia
laMonte Young VCO matrix and vibrator interface







actually, if anyone wants to use that as a band name..
timelifemethrave
Time Domain Processor in euro format
Daisuk
Eurorack really should have a module like this;

- sampler
- load samples with sd-card
- 8 sample slots / 8 trigger ins
- small screen which you could use to load samples to the 8 different slots
- 8 outputs
- 16 cv ins
- each cv selectable what it would modulate (pitch, envelope, filter, whatever)

Would be pretty big, and probably stupidly expensive. But there should be one like this. Would be great to basically use as a drum rack. I'm kind of faking this now by sending triggers from Trigger Riot to a Trigger IO triggering samples in Ableton Live's 'Simpler', but it would be awesome to have some proper CV control over it, and just having it in the box. thumbs up
MTom5
tuj wrote:
simple compressor that costs less than $200. I would buy like 3.


if by simple you mean basic the HexInverter Battery Acid distortion module has a basic compressor built in

http://cv.hexinverter.net/?projects=batteryacid-i-dream-of-wires-editi on
metasonix


lol
painlessparker
+1s on strettara's LFO, and a few others I've already forgotten whilst working my way through the thread.

I'd add… a digital module resembling the verbos harmonic oscillator in its layout, but a frequency pot for each fader. And more faders.

And although the less said about the above post the better, I wish there really was a manufacturer called 'ZPenis'.
L.C.O.
ubiquiphilia wrote:
Harry Partch quantiser module


I would like that...
allears62
narwhal wrote:
spectral modules please.


This.
conscious
Daisuk wrote:
Eurorack really should have a module like this;

- sampler
- load samples with sd-card
- 8 sample slots / 8 trigger ins
- small screen which you could use to load samples to the 8 different slots
- 8 outputs
- 16 cv ins
- each cv selectable what it would modulate (pitch, envelope, filter, whatever)

Would be pretty big, and probably stupidly expensive. But there should be one like this. Would be great to basically use as a drum rack. I'm kind of faking this now by sending triggers from Trigger Riot to a Trigger IO triggering samples in Ableton Live's 'Simpler', but it would be awesome to have some proper CV control over it, and just having it in the box. thumbs up

nothing to add
FatRocky
just have a look to the Allen Strange book and find some very interested ideas for eurorack circuits that i havent seen as selfcontained modules
jenz
I would like to see a module that we could connect an iPad to send gates, LFO's, offsets etc... We could build a custom patch in Lemur and control our rack directly without using a computer. We would need an ios app to make a connection between Lemur or any touch control app to the modular so that we can decide what kind of signal that is getting out of each descreat output... All that in 4 hp for 8 configurable outs. w00t
mckenic
CV Pal no?

http://mutable-instruments.net/modules/cvpal
FatRocky
cv controlable timestreach
jenz
Works with Lemur and camera connection kit?
botstein
FatRocky wrote:
cv controlable timestreach [sic]


What do you mean specifically? Would you want to control the length and time of samples being played back from a module, independently? It seems a little odd to me, in that our modulars can control pitch and time independently from one another, and in the analog realm, which is to say that they can do so completely continuously and with no quality loss... tell us more and maybe we could be sold on the idea.
jenz
mckenic wrote:
CV Pal no?

http://mutable-instruments.net/modules/cvpal


I want to get Yarns and I just remembered that I have iConnectMidi version 1
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YdqFP9L9Qqs

Should work no?
papercutnoise
A module that could make me sound like Autechre would be pretty nice.
botstein
papercutnoise wrote:
A module that could make me sound like Autechre would be pretty nice.


hihi hihi While you're at it, make me a module that will make me sound like Richard Devine, Surachai, and Verbos, and will make also me pancakes.
FatRocky
botstein wrote:
FatRocky wrote:
cv controlable timestreach [sic]


What do you mean specifically? Would you want to control the length and time of samples being played back from a module, independently? It seems a little odd to me, in that our modulars can control pitch and time independently from one another, and in the analog realm, which is to say that they can do so completely continuously and with no quality loss... tell us more and maybe we could be sold on the idea.


to be simple (for a start point)
a digital or hybrid module that can record, store and timestrech an audio sample in the best possible quality and length. A knob for timestreach length ( maybe an oscillator that output clocks that control the lenght) also CV IN for this oscillator. That could be the CV controllable timestreach. For the sampling and playing section of the module there could be many options that could interact with the timestreach section for crative mayhem and awesome beats: LOOP MODE , START /STOP RECORD TRIGGER IN and push switches, PLAY /STOP TRIGGER IN, REVERSE PLAY, .... more

it doesnt have to be a small or cheap module of course

do you think this could be implemented in a 3u module?
Waz
Reissue of the QMMG but with the MMGs LP->HP fading circuit.
calaveras
re-issue the OTool, but in old people easy reading size for over 40 eyesight.
(or just re-issue the Otool)
Waz
calaveras wrote:
re-issue the OTool, but in old people easy reading size for over 40 eyesight.
(or just re-issue the Otool)


O'tool is coming. He redesigned it a bit.
EarlJemmings
FatRocky wrote:
botstein wrote:
FatRocky wrote:
cv controlable timestreach [sic]


What do you mean specifically? Would you want to control the length and time of samples being played back from a module, independently? It seems a little odd to me, in that our modulars can control pitch and time independently from one another, and in the analog realm, which is to say that they can do so completely continuously and with no quality loss... tell us more and maybe we could be sold on the idea.


to be simple (for a start point)
a digital or hybrid module that can record, store and timestrech an audio sample in the best possible quality and length. A knob for timestreach length ( maybe an oscillator that output clocks that control the lenght) also CV IN for this oscillator. That could be the CV controllable timestreach. For the sampling and playing section of the module there could be many options that could interact with the timestreach section for crative mayhem and awesome beats: LOOP MODE , START /STOP RECORD TRIGGER IN and push switches, PLAY /STOP TRIGGER IN, REVERSE PLAY, .... more

it doesnt have to be a small or cheap module of course

do you think this could be implemented in a 3u module?


I have been thinking of this exact module, just came here to put it out there. Guess I'm not alone hihi

Doesn't pass any dry, just records, and based on the setting, stretches out the signal prey much instantly. Quick changes in length I could see being an issue, but beyond that it seems feasible
racs
EarlJemmings wrote:
FatRocky wrote:
botstein wrote:
FatRocky wrote:
cv controlable timestreach [sic]


What do you mean specifically? Would you want to control the length and time of samples being played back from a module, independently? It seems a little odd to me, in that our modulars can control pitch and time independently from one another, and in the analog realm, which is to say that they can do so completely continuously and with no quality loss... tell us more and maybe we could be sold on the idea.


to be simple (for a start point)
a digital or hybrid module that can record, store and timestrech an audio sample in the best possible quality and length. A knob for timestreach length ( maybe an oscillator that output clocks that control the lenght) also CV IN for this oscillator. That could be the CV controllable timestreach. For the sampling and playing section of the module there could be many options that could interact with the timestreach section for crative mayhem and awesome beats: LOOP MODE , START /STOP RECORD TRIGGER IN and push switches, PLAY /STOP TRIGGER IN, REVERSE PLAY, .... more

it doesnt have to be a small or cheap module of course

do you think this could be implemented in a 3u module?


I have been thinking of this exact module, just came here to put it out there. Guess I'm not alone hihi

Doesn't pass any dry, just records, and based on the setting, stretches out the signal prey much instantly. Quick changes in length I could see being an issue, but beyond that it seems feasible


could you not do this with a nebulae and a csound/puredata patch?
EarlJemmings
racs wrote:

could you not do this with a nebulae and a csound/puredata patch?

seriously, i just don't get it
I'm terrible with programming, and don't have a nebulae to try it out
racs
I've never actually used a nebulae but taking a look it seems there is no audio input - so there would be no audio quality ADC. That's a little disappointing, I could see many uses for such an input
EternalTurtle
For Christmas I want a module that can emulate the sounds made by the stomach. I think it would be cool. applause
racs
EternalTurtle wrote:
For Christmas I want a module that can emulate the sounds made by the stomach. I think it would be cool. applause


hah I was messing around with formant synthesis in SC the other day that sounded exactly like this SlayerBadger! it was just low 'o' sounds with a saw tooth wave
mckenic
EternalTurtle wrote:
For Christmas I want a module that can emulate the sounds made by the stomach. I think it would be cool. applause


http://musicthing.co.uk/modular/?p=933

+ piezo = thumbs up
toschek
morekid wrote:
ha! I could totally use a 4hp 'keyboard' module with, say, 1 and half octave.

Would make for a quick and dirty note trigger, been looking for something like it in the last days.


Can't you "play" the Intellijel uScale like a keyboard? Admittedly it's 6HP but almost what you want I reckon.
mckenic
http://erthenvar.com/store/ribbon?manufacturer_id=12

6hp
Fp
i wish that the module that should exist was the last of the list hihi
mxmxmx
racs wrote:
EarlJemmings wrote:
FatRocky wrote:
botstein wrote:
FatRocky wrote:
cv controlable timestreach [sic]


What do you mean specifically? Would you want to control the length and time of samples being played back from a module, independently? It seems a little odd to me, in that our modulars can control pitch and time independently from one another, and in the analog realm, which is to say that they can do so completely continuously and with no quality loss... tell us more and maybe we could be sold on the idea.


to be simple (for a start point)
a digital or hybrid module that can record, store and timestrech an audio sample in the best possible quality and length. A knob for timestreach length ( maybe an oscillator that output clocks that control the lenght) also CV IN for this oscillator. That could be the CV controllable timestreach. For the sampling and playing section of the module there could be many options that could interact with the timestreach section for crative mayhem and awesome beats: LOOP MODE , START /STOP RECORD TRIGGER IN and push switches, PLAY /STOP TRIGGER IN, REVERSE PLAY, .... more

it doesnt have to be a small or cheap module of course

do you think this could be implemented in a 3u module?


I have been thinking of this exact module, just came here to put it out there. Guess I'm not alone :hihi:

Doesn't pass any dry, just records, and based on the setting, stretches out the signal prey much instantly. Quick changes in length I could see being an issue, but beyond that it seems feasible


could you not do this with a nebulae and a csound/puredata patch?


yes, you could. there's an example (for example) that comes with the pd examples (I07.phase.vocoder.pd). in the absence of a codec/ADC that will work with wav files only, of course. also, the specs of thhe mutable instruments Clouds module mentions WSOLA.
FatRocky
modules that should exist (by now) are: All LIVEWIRE AFG Expansions! All Chaos Computer Expansions razz razz razz razz razz
D Beau
In the "I'm new so pardon me if this is retarded or already exists" category: accordion-style blank panels, that can be stretched or compressed to cover different sized gaps.
Gappeq
I would love to see a nice additive synthesis oscillator. Verbos HO covers a little bit, but it is not deep enough. Like a NI Razor in euro screaming goo yo
FatRocky
i'd like to see a small multichannel comparator of something that is especially made to use the akai MPC as trigger/gate sequencer. ( adjustable pulse length)

Maybe another MPC utility would be a module that converts modular pulses to MPC samples trigger (sort of pulse to MIDI trigger -- and able to trigger from all mpc banks)


maybe both in one single module
ghee hgt
a simple 4-8hp 2in/2out spdif-audio-interface!!!

the only spdif module that i am aware of is the expert sleepers es-40. but to get 2 channels of audio with that, you need the es-40 + es-7 + silent way software = sux!!
FatRocky
4hp digital volt meter with small digit display
calaveras
a couple more occurred to me.
a filter based on the EHX Doctor Q pedal (the old one).
Something magic about the slight overdrive in this pedals resonance.
Not sure if you could easily adapt it to euro voltage levels?

a step sequencer designed for drum parts.
kick and snare just dont need as many steps as hats/clicks/rimshots/cowbells.
IT would be nice to have say 16 steps for the fast parts, and only 4 or 8 for snare and kicks. Maybe with a advance/retard to line up beats right.

An LFO that is somewhat more complex than sine/ramp/saw but not s&H or noise. I've been using a Soundmachines LS1 in record/loop mode for this. But I think maybe like a wogglebug? Though that seems noisier than what I want.

In general I wish more modules were less knobby and more jacked.
For example, I see a few delay modules that only give you CV control of feedback or sometimes rate.
It would be swell if feedback, rate, mix were available. Esp with bipolar control. On feedback esp so you can do neg feedback of the delay. But also on mix so you can go neg on the mix a la Effectron delay boxes.
flo
FatRocky wrote:
i'd like to see a small multichannel comparator of something that is especially made to use the akai MPC as trigger/gate sequencer. ( adjustable pulse length)

Maybe another MPC utility would be a module that converts modular pulses to MPC samples trigger (sort of pulse to MIDI trigger -- and able to trigger from all mpc banks)


maybe both in one single module


Just sample triggers into your MPC and use the individual outs. This one from Makenoise works perfectly fine: http://www.makenoisemusic.com/manuals/modular-pulse.WAV

Gates ("adjustable pulse length") I haven't tried, but assuming it would work you could just sample a bunch of gates with different lengths...
artisokka
D Beau wrote:
In the "I'm new so pardon me if this is retarded or already exists" category: accordion-style blank panels, that can be stretched or compressed to cover different sized gaps.


Ha! This could actually be useful. nanners
euromorcego
FatRocky wrote:
i'd like to see a small multichannel comparator of something that is especially made to use the akai MPC as trigger/gate sequencer. ( adjustable pulse length)

what is wrong with a midi to gate converter? Michael Barton has a new one, also a few other are available. I think also ladik.eu, but not sure which one also translates note length to gate time (not too difficult).

FatRocky wrote:
Maybe another MPC utility would be a module that converts modular pulses to MPC samples trigger (sort of pulse to MIDI trigger -- and able to trigger from all mpc banks)

Again, doepfer a-192 (http://www.doepfer.de/a192.htm) does the job, afaik. The description is a bit confusing, since it mentions no midi note output. But this refers only to tonal midi notes over a full range. You can still assign single (!) notes to each CV input. Since many MPC parameter can be controlled by midi notes (like mute) you could control the MPC quite a bit using this module.

calaveras wrote:
An LFO that is somewhat more complex than sine/ramp/saw but not s&H or noise.

MI Peaks has a few more complex waveforms. Otherwise consider a wavefolder, also many wavetable oscillators work in the lfo range. And of course, if you want an LFO with programmable waveforms, get a sequencer (4-8 steps is is ok) and a slew limiter.
os
ghee hgt wrote:
a simple 4-8hp 2in/2out spdif-audio-interface!!

Very do-able, but I'm curious to know what you'd use it for.
ghee hgt
os wrote:
ghee hgt wrote:
a simple 4-8hp 2in/2out spdif-audio-interface!!

Very do-able, but I'm curious to know what you'd use it for.



hi os!

my soundcard has some spdif in/outs and my mixer too. having a spdif module on the modular would free some analog in/outs for mics and stuff hyper
balpirol
FatRocky wrote:
modules that should exist (by now) are: All LIVEWIRE AFG Expansions! All Chaos Computer Expansions razz razz razz razz razz


I agree

I bought two AFG using them with the expansions. Still waiting..hopefully
racs
FatRocky wrote:
i'd like to see a small multichannel comparator of something that is especially made to use the akai MPC as trigger/gate sequencer. ( adjustable pulse length)

Maybe another MPC utility would be a module that converts modular pulses to MPC samples trigger (sort of pulse to MIDI trigger -- and able to trigger from all mpc banks)


maybe both in one single module


wow these are great ideas - I already use the MPC's 8 outs to trigger the modular but being able to control the MPC from a modular would really improve my workflow. If the module simply converted CV into MIDI then it would be useful for other non-CV synths too - and presumably easy to do? going the other way is simple
Daisuk
A module like the Doepfer A-151 sequential switch, but with only two steps - and 4 (or more) channels of it in under 10hp. Boo yah. hihi
IR
TR-606 hi-hats
Anton
I'm sorry, I know this is just... this isn't... but I just couldn't resist.

Bob Borries
Ideas from this thread visualized...



64 Key Re-Mapper: A digital version of the Serge's Touch Controller Sequencer, you put a keyboard control voltage into it and it spits out 4 different voltages for each and every key on a 64 key midi controller. Each key can have a different chord or what ever 4 CV's can be patched into. Go halfway between two notes and it interpolates between the 2 values. Put a ramp wave into to it and it becomes a standard sequencer. Load/Save presets, Different scales, ect.



Tranposer: Simply transposes the input, can act as a playable keyboard.



Simple Sampler: Plays Samples or single cycle waves, Load/Save options. Designed to be simple and fun 24bit 96kHz. Expander module adds CV'able Next Sample, Previous Sample, Record, quick presets.



Stereo Panner x4: four stereo planners, random mode randomizes the panning for each gate received at CV inputs.



Quadrophonic Panner x4: four quad planners.
Dogma
The keybboard scanner is a great idea. Id buy nearly all those Boris..
Dogma
Dogma wrote:
The keybboard scanner is a great idea. Id buy nearly all those Bob


The CV keyboard - Ladik does one thats the same...Hed be a good person to contact as he brings out a couple of modules a week smile
brandonlogic
simply a delay module (preferably clockable) that has a reverse delay/echo mode.
there's tons of guitar pedals and can do this, but no euroracks.
why? (or are there already?)
Daisuk
Great visuals, Bob! Nice work. applause
glennfin
a Eurorack Echoplex Digital Pro plus..... a REAL looper applause

............. and add the ability to mix in wav files saved to SD card, save loops,

cool
lohacker
Bob Borries wrote:
Ideas from this thread visualized...


Great ideas and panels! ...WTF Labs applause
Ish
papercutnoise wrote:
A module that could make me sound like Autechre would be pretty nice.


Depending on the era, that could just be any old reverb unit.
cupwise
how about a midi to cv module that you can upload scala files to (i don't know but i'm assuming this could be done through the midi in itself), and then it spits out cv according to the scale, finally allowing quick and easy use of microtonal/custom scales in modular.

i don't know if it'd be possible for the same module to double as a quantizer, where it could also take any cv coming in and quantizes it to the scale, but that would be great too. microtonal quantizer.

i'm amazed that this doesn't seem to exist yet, considering that modular synths are supposed to represent the more experimental side of things. although, i've been using silent way to get custom scales for a little while now and it works great, but for some people it'd maybe be nice to have it in a midi to cv form, and silent way still doesn't allow me to quantize a cv in my modular to the scale.
bkbirge
Bob Borries wrote:
Ideas from this thread visualized...



Stereo Panner x4: four stereo planners, random mode randomizes the panning for each gate received at CV inputs.


Make those knobs double stacked, with bottom knob an attenuverter and top one controlling pan bias, still only have cv control over pan, make it audio rate capable and this would be a killer killer module.

I still can't believe there doesn't exist a simple module to generate recordable pulses that can then be read back in for accurate timing, slave to tape kind of thing. And I do mean tape, as well as whatever DAW thing you young'uns use these days. Basically it would be a clock generator/re-conditioner module. Extra points for a fancy signal that indicates start where the reconditioner part won't spit out clock until it sees that.
lohacker
cupwise wrote:
how about a midi to cv module that you can upload scala files to (i don't know but i'm assuming this could be done through the midi in itself), and then it spits out cv according to the scale, finally allowing quick and easy use of microtonal/custom scales in modular.

i don't know if it'd be possible for the same module to double as a quantizer, where it could also take any cv coming in and quantizes it to the scale, but that would be great too. microtonal quantizer.

i'm amazed that this doesn't seem to exist yet, considering that modular synths are supposed to represent the more experimental side of things. although, i've been using silent way to get custom scales for a little while now and it works great, but for some people it'd maybe be nice to have it in a midi to cv form, and silent way still doesn't allow me to quantize a cv in my modular to the scale.


in diy-land there's the barton user writable quantizer, capable of doing custom microtonal quantizing
http://www.bartonmusicalcircuits.com/uwq/
os
glennfin wrote:
a Eurorack Echoplex Digital Pro plus..... a REAL looper applause

............. and add the ability to mix in wav files saved to SD card, save loops,

cool

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=136537
O-Ma
like a lot of people have said here i wanted something with eq in a mixer too. But then that is a mixer so maybe there not much of a market for it. I'd like a parametric eq if poss. But probably too pricey?

jenz wrote:
I would like to see a module that we could connect an iPad to send gates, LFO's, offsets etc... We could build a custom patch in Lemur and control our rack directly without using a computer. We would need an ios app to make a connection between Lemur or any touch control app to the modular so that we can decide what kind of signal that is getting out of each descreat output... All that in 4 hp for 8 configurable outs. w00t


I don't know lemur but wouldn't the new endorphins USB gate/cv/power module do that. Bit bigger but 16 assignable outs. They got a sci fi graphic software to control it too on ipad.

Could do with more choice for effects.
Eg Analogue stereo spacial chorus with lots of parameters. To tweak n cv. Freq, amount, feedback, mix, delay 1 and 2, etc. if the Lfo could be something complex? Too pricey?
yellowecho
os wrote:
glennfin wrote:
a Eurorack Echoplex Digital Pro plus..... a REAL looper applause

............. and add the ability to mix in wav files saved to SD card, save loops,

cool

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=136537


That 4ms module looks cool but I don't think it can do what the Echoplex does. The Echoplex has the ability to multiply, insert, quantize, half speed, and reverse. I'd love to see that sort of functionality in a eurorack format. A marriage between an Echoplex and Boomerag (parallel loops) would be ideal IMO.

As for other modules, I really want a MakeNoise unit that switches the RxMx between the FxdF and DPO.
unclewoody
Kinda silly, but how about a WiiMote/Bluetooth module? Basically a receiver for the Nintendo Wii controller....

It could convert the wiimote accelerometer data to CV. Buttons to triggers/gates...

Actually, probably pretty cheap to make with an arduino...
os
jenz wrote:
I would like to see a module that we could connect an iPad to send gates, LFO's, offsets etc... We could build a custom patch in Lemur and control our rack directly without using a computer. We would need an ios app to make a connection between Lemur or any touch control app to the modular so that we can decide what kind of signal that is getting out of each descreat output... All that in 4 hp for 8 configurable outs. w00t

mckenic
unclewoody wrote:
Kinda silly, but how about a WiiMote/Bluetooth module? Basically a receiver for the Nintendo Wii controller....

It could convert the wiimote accelerometer data to CV. Buttons to triggers/gates...

Actually, probably pretty cheap to make with an arduino...


https://www.behance.net/gallery/Graphic-control-voltage-manipulation/1 4413183
Skimmo
Don't know if this has been mentioned:

Dual or Quad Phase-Slewing/Locking Delay with Sum & Individual Outs. I'm sure this could be patched with multiple modules.

It would have morphing cv of phasing and feedback per channel would be cool. Each channel could be sync'd or slewed and cross-modulated, from a single audio input.

Not sure if Makenoise Echophon already does this?

I'd image it would be a LITTLE expensive.
os
What's a "Phase-Slewing/Locking Delay" exactly?
Skimmo
Like Dr. Octature does with filtration but the ability to have all 4 phases in or out of sync independently. If possible, have a slew on each go out of phase up to 30 degrees.

Edit: Just to clarify from 1 audio input, so split 1 in to 4 channels of cv phasing & delay.
glennfin
os wrote:
glennfin wrote:
a Eurorack Echoplex Digital Pro plus..... a REAL looper applause

............. and add the ability to mix in wav files saved to SD card, save loops,

cool

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=136537


Nope, not even close....
glennfin
Correct.. the 4ms moduleis nothing like an Echoplex.....

I suppose I could design a module that could trigger echoplex events based on eurorack triggers and gates.... CV to control loop length, feedback, etc....



yellowecho wrote:
os wrote:
glennfin wrote:
a Eurorack Echoplex Digital Pro plus..... a REAL looper applause

............. and add the ability to mix in wav files saved to SD card, save loops,

cool

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=136537


That 4ms module looks cool but I don't think it can do what the Echoplex does. The Echoplex has the ability to multiply, insert, quantize, half speed, and reverse. I'd love to see that sort of functionality in a eurorack format. A marriage between an Echoplex and Boomerag (parallel loops) would be ideal IMO.

As for other modules, I really want a MakeNoise unit that switches the RxMx between the FxdF and DPO.
modernage
Let's see a port of a Swarmatron over to eurorack. Featuring dual ribbon controller interface and a key to power on the unit. The only change I would suggest would be to keep the spaghetti to the front side of that turquoise colored, hand hammered panel.
smithknows
I've got one.
The Ultimate In/Out

Balanced line out
Headphone amp
Line in
Send/Return loop (Switchable between line and euro level)

I've been looking for such a module.
Rosie gets close. But no line in and the send is euro level.
Intellijel Audio Interface looks sweet but no headphone.

Kind of strange that this doesn't exist right?
masru
smithknows wrote:
I've got one.
The Ultimate In/Out

Balanced line out
Headphone amp
Line in
Send/Return loop (Switchable between line and euro level)

I've been looking for such a module.
Rosie gets close. But no line in and the send is euro level.
Intellijel Audio Interface looks sweet but no headphone.

Kind of strange that this doesn't exist right?


That one maybe? Quite new ...
http://www.ericasynths.lv/en/shop/eurorack_modules/6076-black_output_m odule.html

Hmm, misses send/return
smithknows
Oooh. That does look nice.
But no send/return.
The search continues.
brackets
Waldorf XT like wave envelopes, with an a LCD interface!
electr0andy
a nice clean piano module with built in reverb effect would be lush. or maybe something with a built in General Midi soundbank?

Rockin' Banana!
brackets
Waldorf microwave digital filters with cv control!!
LoveBot
Modules I wish existed:

-Suite of Moslab in Eurorack (would have to be insanely large panels, sandwiched pcbs and close to originals as possible)
-High resolution sampler with elastic audio manipulation (pitch/time independent, few artifacts when shifting), equipped with USB, SD card, ability to connect to iPad to show sample screen and access further sample mangling tools, a looping/stacking feature, resampling, and many cv options
-Faithful reproduction of SH-5 VCF
-Faithful reproduction of OBxa VCF (even in limited runs given rare CEM)
-An ergonomic, 4-6 channel cp3 mixer
-Discrete reproduction of BA662a VCA found in vintage Rolands
-BLACKSCALE faceplates, to turn eurorack to the dark side!
Stopinterview
Skimmo wrote:
Don't know if this has been mentioned:

Dual or Quad Phase-Slewing/Locking Delay with Sum & Individual Outs. I'm sure this could be patched with multiple modules.

It would have morphing cv of phasing and feedback per channel would be cool. Each channel could be sync'd or slewed and cross-modulated, from a single audio input.

Not sure if Makenoise Echophon already does this?

I'd image it would be a LITTLE expensive.


Check out the WMD phase displacement oscillator. With the core module you can do this and with the triple bipolar vca you can dynamically modulate the phase cv's.
indigoid
CGS24 (gate-to-trigger) in a 1U tile.

I've laid out a PCB for it. A dual unit fits snugly in 6hp. Haven't ordered PCBs yet. Upon thinking about it I will revise it to normal one input to the other.

I made a test 1U tile panel with 6 Thonkiconn jacks (two rows of three) in 6hp. It fit just fine, so maybe worth trying to shoe-horn a third CGS24 onto the PCB. Haven't had time to get back to it lately.
adolfgottmann
Anton wrote:
I'm sorry, I know this is just... this isn't... but I just couldn't resist.



Oh yes please, tape under voltage control, oh please yes!
indigoid
Quote:
Oh yes please, tape under voltage control, oh please yes!


pretty sure I already saw that done. Someone posted a link quite recently to a CV-infused Walkman (and lots of other completely sick stuff, it was incredible)
oscillateur
indigoid wrote:
Quote:
Oh yes please, tape under voltage control, oh please yes!


pretty sure I already saw that done. Someone posted a link quite recently to a CV-infused Walkman (and lots of other completely sick stuff, it was incredible)


That's one of the most recent modules from Gijs Gieskes, the 317VCPreA.

http://gieskes.nl/eurorack/?file=317VCPreA
hippasus
A voltage controlled web browser hihi
mckenic
hippasus wrote:
A voltage controlled web browser hihi


I know your kidding - but and Ardcore/nw2s::b or a variant & and ethernet shield... https://www.arduino.cc/en/Tutorial/WebClient
jonne74
adolfgottmann wrote:
Anton wrote:
I'm sorry, I know this is just... this isn't... but I just couldn't resist.



Oh yes please, tape under voltage control, oh please yes!


The CaStep is still on, I hope.
DruidTek
I've always wanted a multi-band filter with variable tube overdrive/distortion, something like Cubase's Quadrafuzz plugin. Would be the bomb for basslines!
I know it's easy enough to do it with several different modules, but having it all in one unit would be awesome.

vailsy
there's a real shortage of good reverb modules, I would love to see an eventide h9 in modular format with all parameters exposed as pots like their stomp boxes, usb, and all parameters cvable
digidandy
A proper, simple sample player that can play back stereo, 16-bit, 44.1khz samples, and that can loop them (glitch free), change start points without glitches (a simple envelope), and maybe do timestretch/pitchshift without length change.

Will it ever exist? Probably not. But I can dream.
RLK
On another thread - Dreaming up some “what-ifs” with some others for this “ala carte” stereo mixing system.
Obviously inspired by the recent Malekko “performance” modules . . .

modernage
RLK wrote:
On another thread - Dreaming up some “what-ifs” with some others for this “ala carte” stereo mixing system.
Obviously inspired by the recent Malekko “performance” modules . . .

I've actually been thinking about something pretty similar to these the past few days. Those Malekko modules also inspired my daydreams as well.
slumberjack
RLK

just like that!
anarchy4bits
clavia nord "micro" modular G2 eurorack module

1voice
1DSP
LCD displays
endless encoders
switches
audio in
audio stereo out
cv in´s and out´s
editor via mac, pc, ios
.........

please! roland do the first step with the new moduls. clavia have all ready for such a project. the modules are all finish. they have the know how. please mr. nordelius, free your modular soul?
RLK
Things slow at work (again)
Tweaked the "Ala Carte" mixer;
Made the aux units stereo, and switched the mono out with an fx loop/ aux receive section . . .

slumberjack
btw there one guy in the fb group who made a panning mixer by himself and now available for diy parts.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155965239910227&set=a.101527 61590955227.1073741825.693760226&type=1&theater
RLK
Well my familiar refrain, had some down time at work yet again.
I was inspired by Rex Coil 7’s awesome "Arturia Brood" thread.
https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=141086&start=0

I did some "what if"/wish list exercises. It seems to suit this thread as well:
The top one uses roughly the same space as the Microbrute (62hp), which seems to work with 3u.
The 2nd - Just squeezing what I could in 84hp.



brandonlogic

lol jokes... sorry, too soon?
simonhold
brandonlogic wrote:

lol jokes... sorry, too soon?

This is really really mean. waah
brandonlogic
I didnt mean it to be a negative, but a positive thing. It's with out a doubt a module that should exist, so why not add it do the list! It's #1 on my want list and I really hope it comes to be. I was even thinking about seeing if any of you would be interested in helping start some kind of kickstarter type fund to help raise money to make this thing happen if that's what it takes... Though it seems like it's manufacturing issues more than anything else, I just want the help any way I can...
cutterfiltoff
jonne74 wrote:
adolfgottmann wrote:
Anton wrote:
I'm sorry, I know this is just... this isn't... but I just couldn't resist.



Oh yes please, tape under voltage control, oh please yes!


The CaStep is still on, I hope.


Ritzy here, and yes the CaStep is still cookin! Getting close to having audio demos thanks to a few early supporters smile
cupwise
i'd like to see a maybe 6hp mixer module specifically for feedback loops, with 3 separate mixer sections. each one would have 2 inputs and one output, and both ins could use those little mini attenuator knobs. this would allow for 3 separate feedback loops to be set up. i'm thinking of this blue lantern (YES blue lantern) module as the basis for the panel:
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/blue-lantern-modules-mix-em-up

which has 9 jacks and 7 attenuators. as described so far, my module would only need 9 jacks and 6 attenuators, so we could add another jack, and one of the 3 sections could have 3 inputs instead of just 2.

the first input of each section could have an attenuverter to allow you to invert the feedback. the 1st 'section' output could be normalled to go into the 2nd section and the 2nd into the 3rd, allowing more inputs for a more complex feedback at the expense of less separate loops possible.

i guess if you added more hp you could add other things, like the more standard size knobs, maybe allow all 3 mixers to have 3 ins, and even cv over the attenuverter for the first inputs (the feedback signal) of each section.
Amer1231
i dont knwo if it was suggested before but a module that only does the task of recording audio to a memory card so you can record shizz on it > remove the mem card> throw the card into a sampler module (ADDAC ultrawav or something similar)
ghee hgt
1. spdif in out
2. mic pre in with phantom power
3. power outbreak for 9v stompboxes and usb power

It's peanut butter jelly time!
cupwise
i don't know if this would actually be possible at all, let alone, while keeping it to a medium hp size, but-
a module that has maybe 5 cv ins/outs, each kept separate. each would then have its own noise source which would then be mixed in with that cv, by a knob labelled something like 'noise/rand width', which would mix it in so that the cv signal going in would be in the middle of the range of the noise. another control would smooth out the noise, so that it would change more slowly, like a sample and hold using noise but also with slew. so it's like someone is randomly adjusting the cv up and down within the range defined by the width control. the smooth knob would smoothly fade between white noise and that type of behavior, with the motion getting slower the more away from the noise end that you adjust it.

this way you could add anything from noise to slow drift, and from subtle to extreme, to multiple cvs. cv over the width and smooth controls would open up a lot of territory also
mharpum
I had a thought for a nice module the other night:

A drum sampler that can load lots of user samples via usb/sd.

It has 8 individual outputs(each one can store 8 samples) which can be changed through the lcd screen menu, a trigger input for each to trigger the sample, and a trigger input to change sample(user defined sample order) as well as time/pitch stretching, granular mangling possibilities via knobs and cv control for everything.

Feel free to nick this idea and make one, all I ask in return is one(or two) of the modules for free!
cupwise
a sound source that'd act as an osc, but is made from noise that gets tuned by some specifically shaped filters. like several sharp bandpass filters verging on resonance, for the fundamental frequency of the note (obviously with pitch cv control), and then others for some harmonics, maybe those could then be distorted to produce higher harmonics. there could be maybe a few different selectable filter shapes to get a variety of sounds, like how the doepfer a-107 allows different shapes.

could be a ton of controls such as a morph between pure noise and the filtered noise, different filter shapes, different routing between the filters, and multiple outs. another filter that always remains static with selectable shapes for various formants, or can be switched of. thered be a lot of possibilities.
enj_music


An 8-input (with 8 THRU outs) 3-channel input-selection attenuverter with CV control, normaled individual outs, and a MIX out. I like pretty colors.
Dogma
cupwise wrote:
a sound source that'd act as an osc, but is made from noise that gets tuned by some specifically shaped filters. like several sharp bandpass filters verging on resonance, for the fundamental frequency of the note (obviously with pitch cv control), and then others for some harmonics, maybe those could then be distorted to produce higher harmonics. there could be maybe a few different selectable filter shapes to get a variety of sounds, like how the doepfer a-107 allows different shapes.

could be a ton of controls such as a morph between pure noise and the filtered noise, different filter shapes, different routing between the filters, and multiple outs. another filter that always remains static with selectable shapes for various formants, or can be switched of. thered be a lot of possibilities.


That mostly explains the SMRF
Hainbach
jonne74 wrote:
adolfgottmann wrote:
Anton wrote:
I'm sorry, I know this is just... this isn't... but I just couldn't resist.



Oh yes please, tape under voltage control, oh please yes!


The CaStep is still on, I hope.


Gieskes has a Walkmen driver module that tracks 1V/O. Only thing that is not working on it is backwards playing, else its great. Works fine with loop cassettes.
cupwise
is there a type of CV processor that 'bends' the input signal up or down, basically taking the response from being linear towards log or inverted log or whatever it would be? not talking about offset. the idea is to be able to take something like an lfo and bend it so its spending more time on the positive side (or negative), by turning a control in that direction. using it on noise going into a sample and hold would allow you to uh, kind of set a higher likelihood that the output would be positive or negative more often.

i'm sure this probably exists i guess i'm just wondering what it's called. i've searched for 'bias' and a few other things but i don't think that was it. anyone know of some examples of this in euro?
Daisuk
mharpum wrote:
I had a thought for a nice module the other night:

A drum sampler that can load lots of user samples via usb/sd.

It has 8 individual outputs(each one can store 8 samples) which can be changed through the lcd screen menu, a trigger input for each to trigger the sample, and a trigger input to change sample(user defined sample order) as well as time/pitch stretching, granular mangling possibilities via knobs and cv control for everything.

Feel free to nick this idea and make one, all I ask in return is one(or two) of the modules for free!


Already been suggested several times in this thread. wink goes to show it's something a lot of people wish for ...
euromorcego
Daisuk wrote:

Already been suggested several times in this thread. wink goes to show it's something a lot of people wish for ...

yes, but "8 individual outputs", "a trigger input for each to trigger", "as well as time/pitch stretching, granular mangling possibilities", and "cv control for everything" is going to be a MASSIVE module.

more realistic: a 4hp drumsampler that can store a bank of cv-selectable samples with 1-2 parameter under cv control. Essentially a ladik D-333 with easier use of user sampler via sd card (sort of a hybrid between the d-333, Music Thing Radio and Bastl GrandPa).

Also on the wishlist (and already mentioned several times, I guess): a simple no-fuss clean delay with clock input (best with a three way switch to select clock divisions). Nothing fancy, just a clean basic delay, unlike those based on the pt2399 or similar.

And the wishlist: a small inexpensive drum mixer with > 4 inputs and mute buttons. And maybe a transposer, like ALM chalkboard but with a precision adder included and the offset of semitones and octaves.
flo
euromorcego wrote:
And maybe a transposer, like ALM chalkboard but with a precision adder included and the offset of semitones and octaves.


Like this?

tiny333
hihi
euromorcego
flo wrote:

Like this?

yes! (I known the frequency central modules) ... only fewer hp and best with the option to add two signals. CV control is good, but basic utility was what I meant mostly ...

Two others that are close: doepfer precision adder (lacks semitones) and ladik quantizer (no adding, no option to not quantize). Also disting covers some of this territory (like many disting modes, the precision adder with offset would be worth it as a standalone module).
flo
Fewer HP is overrated hihi
Daisuk
euromorcego wrote:
Daisuk wrote:

Already been suggested several times in this thread. wink goes to show it's something a lot of people wish for ...

yes, but "8 individual outputs", "a trigger input for each to trigger", "as well as time/pitch stretching, granular mangling possibilities", and "cv control for everything" is going to be a MASSIVE module.

more realistic: a 4hp drumsampler that can store a bank of cv-selectable samples with 1-2 parameter under cv control. Essentially a ladik D-333 with easier use of user sampler via sd card (sort of a hybrid between the d-333, Music Thing Radio and Bastl GrandPa).

Also on the wishlist (and already mentioned several times, I guess): a simple no-fuss clean delay with clock input (best with a three way switch to select clock divisions). Nothing fancy, just a clean basic delay, unlike those based on the pt2399 or similar.

And the wishlist: a small inexpensive drum mixer with > 4 inputs and mute buttons. And maybe a transposer, like ALM chalkboard but with a precision adder included and the offset of semitones and octaves.


No doubt! I wouldn't mind a massive module for it, to be honest. How big is the DrumDokta, anyway? Something along those lines would work just fine.

I'm currently using two Grandpa's for this purpose, and it works just fine for now, though I wish I could store more samples on them.
os
euromorcego wrote:
Also on the wishlist (and already mentioned several times, I guess): a simple no-fuss clean delay with clock input (best with a three way switch to select clock divisions). Nothing fancy, just a clean basic delay, unlike those based on the pt2399 or similar.

disting?
euromorcego
os wrote:
disting?

yes! this is what i use right now (mk1 version), I have two of them.

But, as i said, some of the modes would be well worth to be stand alone modules (if the stand alone versions are a bit cheaper, and with dedicated labels, and that extra knob that the disting may not have). But the disting is still my to-go module for many basic functions.
jenz
I'd use a module that you could upload arduino sketches and samples via
an iphone/whatever mobile device... (I use my laptop for recording only.)
damase
Nobody had mentioned this so maybe im the only one...
But i would LOVE a smaller footprint matrix mixer.

I find the simple doepfer matrix mixer invaluable amd irreplaceable, but 20 HP is extreme for a routing solution. My fingers dont have the most room with the large knobs anyway. Id love a 10-12 HP 4x4 version with the small tall knobs like the 4ms matrix. Would that mean sacrificing the bipolar option? I hope not, but it would be worth it to me. If bipolar option is there i would also like it to have a proper notch at the zero point

Cheers
Montgomery Word
A motherfucking sampler.
Not granular, not two samples, with everything that you'd get from an mpc at least.
bradfromraleigh
I will echo the wishes for a simple sampler but I would love to have the ability to record directly into the module via a jack. What would be even better is a simple algorithm that would crop the sample on either end by using a adjustable noise floor. A handful of sample slots and trigger inputs is all I need. Some controls over sample rate, speed, direction or bit crushing is cool.
bradfromraleigh
Also, I would love a ZVex Fuzz Factory in euro form. The modulation CV capabilities in euro make that interesting for synth and guitar players alike.
damase
I too am waiting for zvex to enter the euroworld
Summa
bradfromraleigh wrote:
Also, I would love a ZVex Fuzz Factory in euro form. The modulation CV capabilities in euro make that interesting for synth and guitar players alike.


you should seriously take a look at the Strakal Brulu then, I have the pedal (which also sports a CV in). Great fuzz!
Ghost_the_garden
cutterfiltoff wrote:
jonne74 wrote:
adolfgottmann wrote:
Anton wrote:
I'm sorry, I know this is just... this isn't... but I just couldn't resist.



Oh yes please, tape under voltage control, oh please yes!


The CaStep is still on, I hope.


Ritzy here, and yes the CaStep is still cookin! Getting close to having audio demos thanks to a few early supporters smile


Castep is that like this? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JusrHgiBUKA If not sum 1 should make something like that in euro
Blairio
maudibe wrote:
A simple request.

A *simple* high quality panning mixer, 8 inputs with pan, two outputs with level control. Not cv controlled, no auxys. Just a simple mixer, preferably with a small hp size. Even if it means using mini pots.

Function, to allow you to easily work with 8 mono sources and place them in stereo for a 'global' out put for your rig.

I am currently using a MFB Drum-98 to do this... but I reckon it could be better.

The big toys like the dub mix are excellent, but hugely expensive once expanded to do the full monty. And also very BIG


This is whate external mixers do really well, and cheaply. You can pick up 10 or 12 input mixers for buttons, and they have EQ, effects sends (sometimes even effects!). They don't have CV though.

Sometimes it seems positively perverse to try and keep everything in a modular solution, when there are great 'stomp box' fx, cheap and flexible mixers, and a bunch of other stuff that only gets expensive when you try and cram it into a 3U eurorack module.
DonKartofflo
Two things:

A harmonizer like the EHX HOG with cv over harmonics, more harmonics up and down as well as cv control over them plus spectral tilt and balance controls like on the buchla filter bank.

A wavetable distortion like the geiger counter, but with higher res wavetables and morphing through them instead of stepping
burnn_out!
A simple live syncable looper/sampler with multiple sample banks. Actually I'm hoping that's what 4ms has in store for their sampler
ludu357
Montgomery Word wrote:
A motherfucking sampler.
Not granular, not two samples, with everything that you'd get from an mpc at least.


+1 with CVs everywhere!

Well, a 2000's sampler, with time stretch.
Audio In + SDcard.
SineBrave
A tape echo. That uses tape.
damase
Wow just having my mind blown by this Castep. Not eurorack though? I cant find hardly any info id love a link to more info or where i can follow the updates about it.

So cool... Id take the non euro box anyday, but maybe a version with a microcassette in euro would be amazing also if possible
HipDestroyer
Maybe it's a bit of a retarded idea but:

A BEAT COUNTER. Really simple idea for live rigs – I myself prefer having some sort of structure even though it's an improv and some sort of beatcounter would be a great help. A sort of inverted clock divider that you could set up to tell you, eg. when an 8 bar chunk is finishing and you need to get ready to change it up for the next 8 bars.
joem
HipDestroyer wrote:
Maybe it's a bit of a retarded idea but:

A BEAT COUNTER. Really simple idea for live rigs – I myself prefer having some sort of structure even though it's an improv and some sort of beatcounter would be a great help. A sort of inverted clock divider that you could set up to tell you, eg. when an 8 bar chunk is finishing and you need to get ready to change it up for the next 8 bars.


Can't you just use a clock divider for that? If one isn't slow enough for you (like you want to measure something really long), then use a clock divider into another clock divider.
calaveras
SineBrave wrote:
A tape echo. That uses tape.

I'd add my vote to that idea as well. Should be pretty easy to find some NOS answering machine tapes that would work. I know there used to be microcassettes that were just a 5-10 sec loop for the outgoing message. CV control over speed, gate to fire it. Maybe have a CV to offset the start and end times as well.

Personally I'd also love to see a trigger sequencer in between the Amnesia/uStep and the '1000 steps 128 outputs super step sequencers'.
Maybe something with 4 outs, and dual 16/quad 8 step?

Also would love to see some more interesting switches.
HipDestroyer
joem wrote:
HipDestroyer wrote:
Maybe it's a bit of a retarded idea but:

A BEAT COUNTER. Really simple idea for live rigs – I myself prefer having some sort of structure even though it's an improv and some sort of beatcounter would be a great help. A sort of inverted clock divider that you could set up to tell you, eg. when an 8 bar chunk is finishing and you need to get ready to change it up for the next 8 bars.


Can't you just use a clock divider for that? If one isn't slow enough for you (like you want to measure something really long), then use a clock divider into another clock divider.


yes you could – but I'm talking about an extended version of that. On a clock divider it's very subtle. I imagine it as a screen ala the o'tool and then it says HEY GUY, YOU'RE ABOUT TO FINISH AN 8 BAR CHUNK, so it grabs your attention and you can focus on switching things up when you're about to finish an 8 bar chunk
strangegravity
I'd like a series of modules that actually utilize the Gate and CV rails specified in the eurorack standards for the power connectors.

Every module should have in/out holes for these rails
flo
strangegravity wrote:
I'd like a series of modules that actually utilize the Gate and CV rails specified in the eurorack standards for the power connectors.

Every module should have in/out holes for these rails


The Doepfer A185 1 and 2 can both access the bus.
joem
strangegravity wrote:
I'd like a series of modules that actually utilize the Gate and CV rails specified in the eurorack standards for the power connectors.

Every module should have in/out holes for these rails


I'm actually glad that didn't really catch on. I'd rather save the room on my modules, and if it's hardwired to the power connector instead of being a dedicated jack that would defeat a lot of the modularity of modules for me.
MRoyce
HipDestroyer wrote:
joem wrote:
HipDestroyer wrote:
Maybe it's a bit of a retarded idea but:

A BEAT COUNTER. Really simple idea for live rigs – I myself prefer having some sort of structure even though it's an improv and some sort of beatcounter would be a great help. A sort of inverted clock divider that you could set up to tell you, eg. when an 8 bar chunk is finishing and you need to get ready to change it up for the next 8 bars.


Can't you just use a clock divider for that? If one isn't slow enough for you (like you want to measure something really long), then use a clock divider into another clock divider.


yes you could – but I'm talking about an extended version of that. On a clock divider it's very subtle. I imagine it as a screen ala the o'tool and then it says HEY GUY, YOU'RE ABOUT TO FINISH AN 8 BAR CHUNK, so it grabs your attention and you can focus on switching things up when you're about to finish an 8 bar chunk


Or you could learn to count to a beat. This is really basic for learning how to play any instrument. After a while it becomes almost subconscious.

Otherwise, this would be pretty easy to implement in MAX or puredata or any other programmable environment.
Daisuk
A slim mixer, say 8 hp, with 4 channels 2->1 for mixing CV. Would love to send say an LFO through a channel, to a module, and then send a second CV in (like a more static signal/offset that's slowly increasing and decreasing) to add or subtract from the LFO signal (not like with VCA's where you just modulate the strength, but add to the original signal).

I know there are mixers that can do this, but they're usually like 1 channel and/or too big.

Someone please make one! Mr. Green
rygloon
I'm not sure if my ideas "should exist" but I'm pretty sure they don't. As unfeasible as they may be I'll share them anyways.

Off the wall (dumb) ideas:
- It'd be neat if Daphne Oram's "Oramics" concept found a home in modular land. Either touch screen or Etch-a-sketch style.
- A cat scratch post/controller that generates cv and/or gates so cats can play too (or maybe like a kitty theremin?). Post would be external then connected to a panel.
- A sequencer that was patched by little bulbs like in the old Lite Brite. Would be a matrix like the Lite Brite but would have controllable clock speed and scale/mode. Obviously, would be gimmicky but how cool would that be?! The Circadian Rhythm is probably close enough to matrix of blinky lights cry

More reasonable-ish:
- This probably exists and I just haven't yet discovered it, but a random module that generates a gate at random intervals within a controllable range (easy to do in Max/puredata).
- Tesla's Spirit radio module or digital module with very similar sounds
- Module inspired by the wacky sounds of a waterphone

Dead Banana

Before you ask... no I didn't grow up near power lines.
Futuresound
A simple send/return module. That way we could choose mixers based on other factors, and add as many auxes as we like.

Wasn't Malekko going to do something like this?
WaveRider
A 4 HP flip flop!
Roy72
I'd like an input/output module, like the ALM SBG, but with a 9v out on it, so you don't need to lug wall warts! Is that possible? Someone make it!
Bobbyv2
Cwejman S(aturation):4

>>> 4 x the saturation part of the MMF-1S

Cwejman DP-2's

>>> i dont believe they really exist anymore

An SH-101 type sequencer

>> midi in for a keyboard but edit-ability + visibility of notes, rests, slides. Portamento knob.
obmuc
euromorcego wrote:
The modules that should be (but isn't) is a simple eurorack tuner with included precision voltage source/adder. Basically a rotary switch that selects 1/12V-11/12V, an octave select switch. You then can patch the output into an osc and connect the oscillator to the tuner input. And there is a second input, so that the reference voltage source can also be use as an octave switcher. Maybe also a buffered mult for the osc input so you can continue patching from there.

Like single Beast's Chalkboard but with a small tuner included, and the voltage source includes 1/12V steps as well as octaves, and not more than 6hp.


+1. Would love to have more options for 1/12V manipulation of pitch CVs.
WaveRider
I would like to have a sort of expension for the deopfer BBD module, a steep 48db filter that follows the clock speed of the BBD with an offset adjustment
jenz
I would like to see a stand alone mixer (I know it's not a rackable module)
The size of the smallest Behringer mixers. 6 inputs with sliders, pans, 3 band EQ for each chanel, mute and solo, headphone monitoring out, 2 aux and the most important thing: CV over every parameter. It's like a mix(no pun intended) between the mutamix and the Dub mix. Ins for modular levels and out for line levels of course.
joem
Roy72 wrote:
I'd like an input/output module, like the ALM SBG, but with a 9v out on it, so you don't need to lug wall warts! Is that possible? Someone make it!


The just announced Stoker Elektrek from TouellSkouarn has a 9v out for pedals and.... buffered mults. No in/out, so it's not quite your dream. But that + SBG would do it. Thread for it (and a few other TS modules).
CF3
I want a "power consumption" moudule that monitors/measures the amount of power being used and how much is available.
uncleyam
I want a quantizer that quantizes into non western scales.

edit: i know you can do this with the er-101 but id rather it be a small 4-10hp quantizer.
meatbeatz
CF3 wrote:
I want a "power consumption" moudule that monitors/measures the amount of power being used and how much is available.


http://www.noiseengineering.us/adigo-metric
CF3
meatbeatz wrote:
CF3 wrote:
I want a "power consumption" moudule that monitors/measures the amount of power being used and how much is available.


http://www.noiseengineering.us/adigo-metric


w00t Ask and you shall recieve SlayerBadger!
fhars
uncleyam wrote:
I want a quantizer that quantizes into non western scales.


It should only take a simple firmware rewrite to get the penrose to support quarter tone oriental scales similar to the way "oriental" arranger keyboards do.
One could probably also add a minikeyboard and the tuner functionality someone requested further up in this thread. (All modulo the precision limits imposed by the DAC used in the penrose. But there seem to be pin-compatible higher precision DACs for around €10 that could be supported by a modified firmware. They might also open the possibility to approximate all other scales to something like 6 cents. Designing the user interaction might be a challenge, though.)
os
uncleyam wrote:
I want a quantizer that quantizes into non western scales.

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2181808#2181808
euromorcego
meatbeatz wrote:
CF3 wrote:
I want a "power consumption" moudule that monitors/measures the amount of power being used and how much is available.


http://www.noiseengineering.us/adigo-metric

the adigo metric measures voltage, not power consumption. You might see if the load is getting critical, but not per se how much power is used and how much is still available.

Also, simple voltmeters of this kind are fairly cheap ($2 or so), one could even design a busboard that includes them.
DanPacific
I can't for my life see how it would be possible, but a quad (or multiple) square to sine converter. When running a clock divider at audio rates I often wish I had something more than divided squares to play around with at the outputs. "Square to triangle" could be fun too, and maybe more doable, but a sine version would be golden. Om
meatbeatz
euromorcego wrote:
meatbeatz wrote:
CF3 wrote:
I want a "power consumption" moudule that monitors/measures the amount of power being used and how much is available.


http://www.noiseengineering.us/adigo-metric

the adigo metric measures voltage, not power consumption. You might see if the load is getting critical, but not per se how much power is used and how much is still available.

Also, simple voltmeters of this kind are fairly cheap ($2 or so), one could even design a busboard that includes them.


damn, you're right... didn't look close enuff..
EMX-1
rygloon wrote:

- A cat scratch post/controller that generates cv and/or gates so cats can play too (or maybe like a kitty theremin?). Post would be external then connected to a panel.



Yes!
justintonation
uncleyam wrote:
I want a quantizer that quantizes into non western scales.

edit: i know you can do this with the er-101 but id rather it be a small 4-10hp quantizer.


I want this too. So amazed that it has not happened yet.
justintonation
DonKartofflo wrote:
Two things:

A harmonizer like the EHX HOG with cv over harmonics, more harmonics up and down as well as cv control over them plus spectral tilt and balance controls like on the buchla filter bank.

A wavetable distortion like the geiger counter, but with higher res wavetables and morphing through them instead of stepping


This would be a cool idea. The serge wave multipliers does something similar in a timbral way (adding overtones which are basically just sine waves) but it would be awesome to have full duplication of waves at harmonically related ratios or any pitch really with separate outputs for each harmony.

The A-113 does this for subharmonics but we still need something more flexible.
Summa
justintonation wrote:
uncleyam wrote:
I want a quantizer that quantizes into non western scales.

edit: i know you can do this with the er-101 but id rather it be a small 4-10hp quantizer.


I want this too. So amazed that it has not happened yet.


Check out ADDAC 207 for some non-western temperaments and the Intellijel uScale has 144 user scales seriously, i just don't get it if that's not enough for you I'm pretty sure you can make one for the Disting, I made a simple one for my ADDAC VCC..
os
DanPacific wrote:
I can't for my life see how it would be possible, but a quad (or multiple) square to sine converter. When running a clock divider at audio rates I often wish I had something more than divided squares to play around with at the outputs. "Square to triangle" could be fun too, and maybe more doable, but a sine version would be golden. Om

Saw, sine and triangle:
http://expert-sleepers.co.uk/distingalgorithms.html#4b
far
EMX-1 wrote:
rygloon wrote:

- A cat scratch post/controller that generates cv and/or gates so cats can play too (or maybe like a kitty theremin?). Post would be external then connected to a panel.



Yes!

You could do this with the Mikrophonie i think, extend the cable to the contact mic to a scratching post. I was thinking of doing it today and gaffing the mic to the girlfriends ipad as she scrolls through whatever.
GGW
Many of the smaller utility functions are placed in repeat multiples to fill the panel. This is inefficient in smaller systems. My suggestion is for a 2hp module with a combination of one buffered multiple and one unity mixer.
Silent.
Maybe something like this is out there, but a digital cv function module.

As in, I put a cv signal in, it measures it, and I can, using a calculator-like keypad, WRITE a mathematical equation/function with X in it. X is replaced by the measured CV-in amount and the cv output is the answer of the function/equation. Of course there would be limitations, like multiplying by 99999 and you'd hit a maximum output, but it could be very useful indeed. Maybe multiple CV ins with X, Y, Z, etc etc.
Paul Perry
Silent. wrote:
Maybe something like this is out there, but a digital cv function module.

As in, I put a cv signal in, it measures it, and I can, using a calculator-like keypad, WRITE a mathematical equation/function with X in it. X is replaced by the measured CV-in amount and the cv output is the answer of the function/equation. Of course there would be limitations, like multiplying by 99999 and you'd hit a maximum output, but it could be very useful indeed. Maybe multiple CV ins with X, Y, Z, etc etc.


Completely outside my experience, but surely this is a job for MATLAB? or (optimistically) a cheap/free equivalent running on some common microprocessor?
mskala
Silent. wrote:
Maybe something like this is out there, but a digital cv function module.

As in, I put a cv signal in, it measures it, and I can, using a calculator-like keypad, WRITE a mathematical equation/function with X in it. X is replaced by the measured CV-in amount and the cv output is the answer of the function/equation. Of course there would be limitations, like multiplying by 99999 and you'd hit a maximum output, but it could be very useful indeed. Maybe multiple CV ins with X, Y, Z, etc etc.


The Microbe Equation Composer does something very much like this. Mount an iPhone or whatever next to it for the keypad. If that particular module doesn't have the right inputs/resolution/etc., there are many other programmable modules that can do something similar.
DMR
Silent. wrote:
Maybe something like this is out there, but a digital cv function module.

As in, I put a cv signal in, it measures it, and I can, using a calculator-like keypad, WRITE a mathematical equation/function with X in it. X is replaced by the measured CV-in amount and the cv output is the answer of the function/equation. Of course there would be limitations, like multiplying by 99999 and you'd hit a maximum output, but it could be very useful indeed. Maybe multiple CV ins with X, Y, Z, etc etc.


Check the Monome Teletype: http://monome.org/docs/modular/teletype/
sullenbay
DMR wrote:
Silent. wrote:
Maybe something like this is out there, but a digital cv function module.

As in, I put a cv signal in, it measures it, and I can, using a calculator-like keypad, WRITE a mathematical equation/function with X in it. X is replaced by the measured CV-in amount and the cv output is the answer of the function/equation. Of course there would be limitations, like multiplying by 99999 and you'd hit a maximum output, but it could be very useful indeed. Maybe multiple CV ins with X, Y, Z, etc etc.


Check the Monome Teletype: http://monome.org/docs/modular/teletype/


Every time I see it printed it makes my heart flutter a bit.

Module idea? Madrona Labs Kaivo in 20hp. No display, tons of ins and outs. Lots of lights. All modes/sizes/types etc selected through CV.
DanJGW
Here's one, an Atari 2600 cartridge with I/O and cv control so you can use your old console as a sound source. Doesn't need a monitor either- any reasons why this couldn't work?
acgenerator
DanJGW wrote:
Here's one, an Atari 2600 cartridge with I/O and cv control so you can use your old console as a sound source. Doesn't need a monitor either- any reasons why this couldn't work?


Midi2600 from highly liquid ( now open source) + synthcart from atariage + simple mod for audio out. Cv to midi is easy enough to find an option for.


Or you can help convince the guy that made pokey.synth module to open source/resurrect it.
melittophily
A morphing DSPer inspired by the Lexicon Vortex, with its onboard LFOs/envelope followers/VCAs/delays/etc patched out but normalled and more preset routings like the Vortex's "Bleen" "Orbits," "Centrifuge," etc. Tap tempo/clock and morph inputs as in the original.

More modestly, a small reverb dedicated to Alesis Midiverb "Bloom"/ValhallaDSP Shimmer's pitch-shifted feedback with feedback loop VCA CV and audio I/O for insert FX. The reverb core doesn't need to be fancy.
soot
Taking a cue from the CV bus, I would love to have mults that could be tied together internally via ribbon cable. That would enable a user to patch in at one point in their rack, and out at another. This would open up the interface and allow for more wiggling and save on patch cables.

This would of course make for a rather simple DIY project. thumbs up
thermionicjunky
soot wrote:
Taking a cue from the CV bus, I would love to have mults that could be tied together internally via ribbon cable. That would enable a user to patch in at one point in their rack, and out at another. This would open up the interface and allow for more wiggling and save on patch cables.

This would of course make for a rather simple DIY project. :tu:


http://www.cgs.synth.net/modules/cgs98_busdriver.html
soot
thermionicjunky wrote:


http://www.cgs.synth.net/modules/cgs98_busdriver.html


Thanks for showing me this!

Edit: After some more digging, I found this, which is more like what I was referring to: http://www.elby-designs.com/contents/en-us/p1106_CGS93_-_Trunk_Lines_M ultiples.html

I do like the added functionality of the Bus Driver though.
kirklandish
justintonation wrote:
DonKartofflo wrote:
Two things:

A harmonizer like the EHX HOG with cv over harmonics, more harmonics up and down as well as cv control over them plus spectral tilt and balance controls like on the buchla filter bank.



This would be a cool idea. The serge wave multipliers does something similar in a timbral way (adding overtones which are basically just sine waves) but it would be awesome to have full duplication of waves at harmonically related ratios or any pitch really with separate outputs for each harmony.

The A-113 does this for subharmonics but we still need something more flexible.


I'm on board with this idea! Perhaps two modes - one based on the harmonic series and another based on 12TET that quantizes in semitones. Basically something to turn your existing oscillators into an additive synthesizer.

I'm fine with it being digital - might add more for less $/HP. Seems like something Mutable Instruments or Audio Damage could do.

Rockin' Banana!

I've also thought about something similar to Beast's Chalkboard, but with semitones and the harmonic series for FM.
Daisuk
A five channel granular synth with voct tracking. Sample in a waveform and create polyphony. Yeah. Would be ace. smile orthogonal 103, I'm looking at you. wink
Logite
I want a delay that can double as a reverb and also print money :(
exper
in Euro: 223e Buchla 222e

- complete with sequencing, programmable routings, pressure AND location, XY pads, etc.

Seriously. Someone needs to make a touch controller NOT based on a keyboard, and that is highly customizable with scales, multiple forms of output (unipolar and bipolar voltage, gates, triggers, v/oct)

Holding out for the serge tkb from ARC modular for now.
kwaidan
I want an affordable quad filter designed for playing chords.

I want an expandable/retractable blind panel, sort of like a shade or blind. Since MI grabbed those names, along with veil, I guess I want a drape or curtain.
unclebastard
melittophily wrote:
A morphing DSPer inspired by the Lexicon Vortex, with its onboard LFOs/envelope followers/VCAs/delays/etc patched out but normalled and more preset routings like the Vortex's "Bleen" "Orbits," "Centrifuge," etc. Tap tempo/clock and morph inputs as in the original.

I'd pay good money for this: I own a Vortex, and whilst it does lovely/horrible things to sound, it's a real ball-ache to program and the output is really noisy. Should anyone decide to do it, the signal routing for each preset is in the manual. It would be incredible to be able to control it all via CV.
gryfon1
Apologies if this has already been posted in the thread, but...

The module I want badly to have a couple of is a real gate delay. That is, one that will preserve the length of the incoming gate. All my experience with gate delays to date is that they'll delay the start of a gate but the delayed gate out is terminated when the incoming gate goes low.

I get it that that's easier to implement, and may even represent what most users want (?) but I'd love to be able to run a series of gates into a delay and have them all shifted forward in time but otherwise unprocessed. Surely there are fun and interesting things that could be done with such a gate delay?
Tripadvizer
gryfon1 wrote:
Apologies if this has already been posted in the thread, but...

The module I want badly to have a couple of is a real gate delay. That is, one that will preserve the length of the incoming gate. All my experience with gate delays to date is that they'll delay the start of a gate but the delayed gate out is terminated when the incoming gate goes low.

I get it that that's easier to implement, and may even represent what most users want (?) but I'd love to be able to run a series of gates into a delay and have them all shifted forward in time but otherwise unprocessed. Surely there are fun and interesting things that could be done with such a gate delay?

couldnt you just use a normal delay which is dc coupled? something like the foh sound of shadows?
gryfon1
Tripadvizer wrote:
gryfon1 wrote:
Apologies if this has already been posted in the thread, but...

The module I want badly to have a couple of is a real gate delay. That is, one that will preserve the length of the incoming gate. All my experience with gate delays to date is that they'll delay the start of a gate but the delayed gate out is terminated when the incoming gate goes low.

I get it that that's easier to implement, and may even represent what most users want (?) but I'd love to be able to run a series of gates into a delay and have them all shifted forward in time but otherwise unprocessed. Surely there are fun and interesting things that could be done with such a gate delay?

couldnt you just use a normal delay which is dc coupled? something like the foh sound of shadows?


I don't know. Interesting thought! But I'd hate to give up a good delay module for this, especially as I think I could see using multiple dealyed gates.
An example of something not light-years away from a possible use would be to mimic the slight offsets in start and end times from different players in an ensemble. Or some of the things Steve Reich was doing with his phasing pieces. Slight differences in the release stage of an envelope don't quite seem to do the same sort of thing.
Maybe it's just me ;-\
os
disting would do that.
gryfon1
os wrote:
disting would do that.

Ah, excellent news! Raises that module on my want-list, for sure.
Paranormal Patroler
gryfon1 wrote:
os wrote:
disting would do that.

Ah, excellent news! Raises that module on my want-list, for sure.


What you're looking for is called Tripfire, it's 4HP and you have the option of having it delay the Attack phase but keep the Release as is or delay both. And more options. Very nice module to have!
Roy72
You could do this sort of thing using the logic section (Rise Fall gates) on the Befaco Rampage, so you have an offset gate linked to the fall of one channel. You could then modulate rise/fall times to get variations in the offset. Could be fun....
geremyf
Isn't this the sole purpose of the SSF propagate?
pinkflag16
USB power module in 3U, max 2hp. It's so simple, no one has bothered! I'd like to play my Keystep sometimes without another AC adapter. No data needed, just power the thing.
pinkflag16
double. sorry
Dcramer
pinkflag16 wrote:
USB power module in 3U, max 2hp. It's so simple, no one has bothered! I'd like to play my Keystep sometimes without another AC adapter. No data needed, just power the thing.

Are you thinking of something like the Synthwerks lamp modules?
They're designed to power USB gooseneck lamps and have enough juice to let me run my Qunexus from it. thumbs up
L.C.O.
Paranormal Patroler wrote:
gryfon1 wrote:
os wrote:
disting would do that.

Ah, excellent news! Raises that module on my want-list, for sure.


What you're looking for is called Tripfire, it's 4HP and you have the option of having it delay the Attack phase but keep the Release as is or delay both. And more options. Very nice module to have!


On the very first page of this thread:

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=116468&postdays=0&po storder=asc&start=0

I suggested the need for gate delay, and someone suggested Tripfire.

My response is there: I bought it, returned it: it does not work well as a gate delay...
pinkflag16
Dcramer wrote:
pinkflag16 wrote:
USB power module in 3U, max 2hp. It's so simple, no one has bothered! I'd like to play my Keystep sometimes without another AC adapter. No data needed, just power the thing.

Are you thinking of something like the Synthwerks lamp modules?
They're designed to power USB gooseneck lamps and have enough juice to let me run my Qunexus from it. thumbs up


I'd been told at a couple of shops that the Synthwerks may not have enough juice for an Arturia. Even so, it seems to be out of stock everywhere and also $85. A bit steep for what I need. Intellijel makes a 1U power jack for $15. Should be easy enough to make one in 3U for not too much more. Seems like it would be a pretty popular item given the number of usb-powered controllers out there. Maybe Arturia can use there mass market position to sell one! nanners
mdoudoroff
Practically speaking, it might be useful to have a slim module that functions as a power switch between one module and the bus so that you can safely “reboot” a single, chronically-problematic module without having to cycle the power on the entire rack.
Paranormal Patroler
L.C.O. wrote:
Paranormal Patroler wrote:
gryfon1 wrote:
os wrote:
disting would do that.

Ah, excellent news! Raises that module on my want-list, for sure.


What you're looking for is called Tripfire, it's 4HP and you have the option of having it delay the Attack phase but keep the Release as is or delay both. And more options. Very nice module to have!


On the very first page of this thread:

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=116468&postdays=0&po storder=asc&start=0

I suggested the need for gate delay, and someone suggested Tripfire.

My response is there: I bought it, returned it: it does not work well as a gate delay...


Weird, mine works perfectly as a gate delay. That is its purpose actually.
mskala
Interesting how many of these wishes are "Such-and-such module that already exists, but in fewer HP."
Chopper
pinkflag16 wrote:
USB power module in 3U, max 2hp. It's so simple, no one has bothered! I'd like to play my Keystep sometimes without another AC adapter. No data needed, just power the thing.


THIS. anyone pointing me towards the general direction of something like that Will be worshipped as the messiah he is.
huffnPuff
^ Looks like Dcramer already has...
intellijel
Chopper wrote:
pinkflag16 wrote:
USB power module in 3U, max 2hp. It's so simple, no one has bothered! I'd like to play my Keystep sometimes without another AC adapter. No data needed, just power the thing.


THIS. anyone pointing me towards the general direction of something like that Will be worshipped as the messiah he is.


4hp but in 1U format for our cases: https://intellijel.com/eurorack-modules/usb-power-1u/

We intended it for USB lamps, charging iphone/recorder or powering peripherals. Our PSUs have headers to connect two of these.
ersatzplanet
pinkflag16 wrote:
Dcramer wrote:
pinkflag16 wrote:
USB power module in 3U, max 2hp. It's so simple, no one has bothered! I'd like to play my Keystep sometimes without another AC adapter. No data needed, just power the thing.

Are you thinking of something like the Synthwerks lamp modules?
They're designed to power USB gooseneck lamps and have enough juice to let me run my Qunexus from it. thumbs up


I'd been told at a couple of shops that the Synthwerks may not have enough juice for an Arturia. Even so, it seems to be out of stock everywhere and also $85. A bit steep for what I need. Intellijel makes a 1U power jack for $15. Should be easy enough to make one in 3U for not too much more. Seems like it would be a pretty popular item given the number of usb-powered controllers out there. Maybe Arturia can use there mass market position to sell one! nanners


I made these for my personal rig replacing the standard Doepfer power inlet panel. I have thought of making a skinny version (the width of a USB connector) but they are super easy to make yourself.



All it takes is a simple panel mounted USB extender cable (from Amazon):



And any small USB phone charger module mounted in the cabinet. I used a standard Apple charger and wired it to a set of quick-connects that were plugged into the extra blades on my power supply. The charger was then just stuck to the inner corner of the cabinet with double sided sticky tape (they are very light). Super simple and PLENTY of power for whatever you want to plug into it. NO strain on the internal supply, and NO switching artifacts added to the bus. Mine looks like this:



The extra TSR to dual TS adaptor is for my QuNexus CV/Gate line but could be audio or any other stereo cable use. These are normalized to my internal CV/Gate bus.
mdoudoroff
I’ve sometimes wished for a special VCA with a trigger-based fade feature: press a button or send a trigger and it attenuates (or un-attenuates) a signal smoothly over a configurable period of time. Kind of like “fader automation”. It’s possible to patch something like this together, but not without chewing up a lot of resources. (You could do with with a Control Forge and a vanilla VCA, but that seems like swatting a fly with a bazooka.)

I suppose it would be also be useful if the module could do the same as a cross-fader.

Alternatively, a module where you set two cv levels that you can toggle between using a trigger, with a variable duration slew between them?
pinkflag16
intellijel wrote:
Chopper wrote:
pinkflag16 wrote:
USB power module in 3U, max 2hp. It's so simple, no one has bothered! I'd like to play my Keystep sometimes without another AC adapter. No data needed, just power the thing.


THIS. anyone pointing me towards the general direction of something like that Will be worshipped as the messiah he is.


4hp but in 1U format for our cases: https://intellijel.com/eurorack-modules/usb-power-1u/

We intended it for USB lamps, charging iphone/recorder or powering peripherals. Our PSUs have headers to connect two of these.


Can you make one in 3u? I'll go buy a Springray to help you fund it smile.
pinkflag16
ersatzplanet wrote:
pinkflag16 wrote:
Dcramer wrote:
pinkflag16 wrote:
USB power module in 3U, max 2hp. It's so simple, no one has bothered! I'd like to play my Keystep sometimes without another AC adapter. No data needed, just power the thing.

Are you thinking of something like the Synthwerks lamp modules?
They're designed to power USB gooseneck lamps and have enough juice to let me run my Qunexus from it. thumbs up


I'd been told at a couple of shops that the Synthwerks may not have enough juice for an Arturia. Even so, it seems to be out of stock everywhere and also $85. A bit steep for what I need. Intellijel makes a 1U power jack for $15. Should be easy enough to make one in 3U for not too much more. Seems like it would be a pretty popular item given the number of usb-powered controllers out there. Maybe Arturia can use there mass market position to sell one! nanners


I made these for my personal rig replacing the standard Doepfer power inlet panel. I have thought of making a skinny version (the width of a USB connector) but they are super easy to make yourself.



All it takes is a simple panel mounted USB extender cable (from Amazon):



And any small USB phone charger module mounted in the cabinet. I used a standard Apple charger and wired it to a set of quick-connects that were plugged into the extra blades on my power supply. The charger was then just stuck to the inner corner of the cabinet with double sided sticky tape (they are very light). Super simple and PLENTY of power for whatever you want to plug into it. NO strain on the internal supply, and NO switching artifacts added to the bus. Mine looks like this:



The extra TSR to dual TS adaptor is for my QuNexus CV/Gate line but could be audio or any other stereo cable use. These are normalized to my internal CV/Gate bus.


Thanks. I'm not handy or patient enough to make my own, though. Care to market one? smile
Paranormal Patroler
mdoudoroff wrote:
I’ve sometimes wished for a special VCA with a trigger-based fade feature: press a button or send a trigger and it attenuates (or un-attenuates) a signal smoothly over a configurable period of time.


hmmm..... Manual Gate > ADSR > VCA , there are so many options, you could probably pull this off with 6-8HP worth of modules
tonepanic
Paranormal Patroler wrote:
mdoudoroff wrote:
I’ve sometimes wished for a special VCA with a trigger-based fade feature: press a button or send a trigger and it attenuates (or un-attenuates) a signal smoothly over a configurable period of time.


hmmm..... Manual Gate > ADSR > VCA , there are so many options, you could probably pull this off with 6-8HP worth of modules


I don't think a typical ADSR would work with a trigger approach, as you want it to go from a steady state 0 / max to a steady state max / 0. I think ideally you would need something like a latch or toggle flop (e.g. Intellijel Plog), although I'm pretty sure there are other tricks you could play depending on the modules you have.
mdoudoroff
tonepanic wrote:
Paranormal Patroler wrote:
hmmm..... Manual Gate > ADSR > VCA , there are so many options, you could probably pull this off with 6-8HP worth of modules


I don't think a typical ADSR would work with a trigger approach, as you want it to go from a steady state 0 / max to a steady state max / 0. I think ideally you would need something like a latch or toggle flop (e.g. Intellijel Plog), although I'm pretty sure there are other tricks you could play depending on the modules you have.


I know I could pull this off—I could do it with my rack using my sequential switch + a slew + an offset generator + a VCA—but my point is that that’s actually fairly complicated and resource-intensive, while a dual implementation in a single utility module could probably fit in 4-8HP. Hence my post in this this thread. Mr. Green Such a module I’d probably use often.
Paranormal Patroler
mdoudoroff wrote:
tonepanic wrote:
Paranormal Patroler wrote:
hmmm..... Manual Gate > ADSR > VCA , there are so many options, you could probably pull this off with 6-8HP worth of modules


I don't think a typical ADSR would work with a trigger approach, as you want it to go from a steady state 0 / max to a steady state max / 0. I think ideally you would need something like a latch or toggle flop (e.g. Intellijel Plog), although I'm pretty sure there are other tricks you could play depending on the modules you have.


I know I could pull this off—I could do it with my rack using my sequential switch + a slew + an offset generator + a VCA—but my point is that that’s actually fairly complicated and resource-intensive, while a dual implementation in a single utility module could probably fit in 4-8HP. Hence my post in this this thread. Mr. Green Such a module I’d probably use often.


Ah, now I see what you want. Funny you should mention it actually ... hihi
calaveras
Wiard-Malekko Anti-Envelope.
It should exist but it doesn't.
D Beau
A "humanizer" that syncs to an incoming clock signal and outputs it's own clock where the timing is always slightly off. A knob would adjust the range of error, and a three way switch to select whether the timing was late, early, or both.
Paranormal Patroler
D Beau wrote:
A "humanizer" that syncs to an incoming clock signal and outputs it's own clock where the timing is always slightly off. A knob would adjust the range of error, and a three way switch to select whether the timing was late, early, or both.


Barton LRQ; to a t. thumbs up
D Beau
Paranormal Patroler wrote:
D Beau wrote:
A "humanizer" that syncs to an incoming clock signal and outputs it's own clock where the timing is always slightly off. A knob would adjust the range of error, and a three way switch to select whether the timing was late, early, or both.


Barton LRQ; to a t. thumbs up

Sweet!
Paranormal Patroler
D Beau wrote:
Paranormal Patroler wrote:
D Beau wrote:
A "humanizer" that syncs to an incoming clock signal and outputs it's own clock where the timing is always slightly off. A knob would adjust the range of error, and a three way switch to select whether the timing was late, early, or both.


Barton LRQ; to a t. thumbs up

Sweet!


I patch the LRQ using two clocks, one steady and a different clock in a similar rate but obviously not synced to the clock proper. I then use LRQ to set late, early and outside windows to taste. Lovely module and a gem of Eurorack, totally under the radar for a lot of people.
tthogs
A multimode analog overdrive/distortion akin to the new elektron analog heat. I would trade filter options that presently exist in euro for some more distortions to chose from. More color boxes.
Fiddlestickz
Module that doesn't exist but should... eek!

1: eurorack mixer chan module with parametric EQ..

idea is you buy one, or 6 or 12 and each module can be connect via cable on the back to pass audio through to a separate master chan module, so initially you'd have to buy one or two individual mixerEQ chan modules with a master module, but you can then buy separate modules to expand your mixer up to 12 chans...each mixer/EQ/chan can connect via cable round the back or there could be a row of patch points on the master module that you plugged into..

* The master stereo chan module would have a built in limiter SSL type compressor that could be engaged or not..

this would be boutique stuff..high quality, British sounding EQ with high end build quality..


thumbs up
lohacker
Fiddlestickz wrote:
Module that doesn't exist but should... eek!

1: eurorack mixer chan module with parametric EQ..

idea is you buy one, or 6 or 12 and each module can be connect via cable on the back to pass audio through to a separate master chan module, so initially you'd have to buy one or two individual mixerEQ chan modules with a master module, but you can then buy separate modules to expand your mixer up to 12 chans...each mixer/EQ/chan can connect via cable round the back or there could be a row of patch points on the master module that you plugged into..

* The master stereo chan module would have a built in limiter SSL type compressor that could be engaged or not..

this would be boutique stuff..high quality, British sounding EQ with high end build quality..


thumbs up


Here you go:
http://frap.tools/portfolio/mixer/

they don't have the EQ and comp features but are lovely nonetheless love
calaveras
The Frap tools mixer modules are interesting, but I'd be more inclined to build a mixer with the Dœpfer 138p and 138o. For what I'd save in hp and I could pick up a few eq modules.

I do like the idea of a "British" modular eurorack mixer. However there are significant hurdles. The form factor being chief. I've racked a few mixer preamps to use in my home studio and the sheer size of a mixer module is pretty huge. Most of them are longer than a 19" rack is wide. So you chop off the fader and the group buttons and squeeze the premp/EQ pcb in there somehow.
On a PM1000 I did a while ago the PCB board is huge! And that only had a 3 band eq with switch selected freqs on the mid.
(the Yamaha PM1000 is Japanese, but kind of derived from British designs)
There are also the size of the pots as well to consider. even the tiny 9mm alphas take up a footprint. Imagine 4 knobs for eq; lo, mid, mid freq and high. Add a knob for gain , another for pan. That is 6 knobs already and we havent put any jacks or switches! You are going to want some kind of mute, solo and aux as well I assume (I'd like to have 2 auxes minimum!).

I think to get something like this to happen you'd either end up with a 14hp wide panel, or 3 or 4 stacked PCBs. on a 6hp wide panel.
The other big hurdle would be the power rails. All those great vintage consoles had much bigger rails than bipolar 12v. Neves are 24v +/- IIRC. Some mixers like the Yamaha PM1000 are 44v +/-!

Still, not impossible. Just look at the 500 series modules that exist.
Similar form factor, and power rails.
beem
A groove template clock generator, where you can set +- offset in timing per click.

Hope that this exists already, maybe varigate to some extent?
Fiddlestickz
those Frap tools module are absolutely gorgeous..
Paranormal Patroler
beem wrote:
A groove template clock generator, where you can set +- offset in timing per click.

Hope that this exists already, maybe varigate to some extent?


There's arythmia ... if I understand what you're looking for correctly. The thing is a beast!
Fiddlestickz
calaveras wrote:
The Frap tools mixer modules are interesting, but I'd be more inclined to build a mixer with the Dœpfer 138p and 138o. For what I'd save in hp and I could pick up a few eq modules.

I do like the idea of a "British" modular eurorack mixer. However there are significant hurdles. The form factor being chief. I've racked a few mixer preamps to use in my home studio and the sheer size of a mixer module is pretty huge. Most of them are longer than a 19" rack is wide. So you chop off the fader and the group buttons and squeeze the premp/EQ pcb in there somehow.
On a PM1000 I did a while ago the PCB board is huge! And that only had a 3 band eq with switch selected freqs on the mid.
(the Yamaha PM1000 is Japanese, but kind of derived from British designs)
There are also the size of the pots as well to consider. even the tiny 9mm alphas take up a footprint. Imagine 4 knobs for eq; lo, mid, mid freq and high. Add a knob for gain , another for pan. That is 6 knobs already and we havent put any jacks or switches! You are going to want some kind of mute, solo and aux as well I assume (I'd like to have 2 auxes minimum!).

I think to get something like this to happen you'd either end up with a 14hp wide panel, or 3 or 4 stacked PCBs. on a 6hp wide panel.
The other big hurdle would be the power rails. All those great vintage consoles had much bigger rails than bipolar 12v. Neves are 24v +/- IIRC. Some mixers like the Yamaha PM1000 are 44v +/-!

Still, not impossible. Just look at the 500 series modules that exist.
Similar form factor, and power rails.


yes indeed the 500 series stuff is where I get a lot of my ideas for these EQ's and mixer modules...it's so obvious yet no one is really doing anything along that line in euro..
systmcrsh
a module that doesn't exist but should is:

a module that converts tr-707 style tape sync to clock =)

related: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=170308
Orwell
A small pin matrix synthi vco voice, ad, trap, filter would be great - something simple. Kind of like an ems Atlantis voice.
mdoudoroff
A pin matrix is an alternative to patch cabling. Pin matrices don't do any good without all the wiring behind them. Inserting a pin matrix to a patch cable system is just a way to make a complex thing even more confusing.
atrostor
A Peaks with CV inputs for its four knobs would be amazing.
Happiness Forever
atrostor wrote:
A Peaks with CV inputs for its four knobs would be amazing.


This +1
calaveras
Orwell wrote:
A small pin matrix synthi vco voice, ad, trap, filter would be great - something simple. Kind of like an ems Atlantis voice.

Well Erica Synths has that virtual pin matrix touch screen thing. Not as dense as the ones on the EMS synths, but it's pretty keen. Checked it out at the MiM in Queens a few weeks ago.
Want.

IIRC there was a thread about pin matrices on Muffs or Electro-music. Apparently the actually part for those is very expensive, and wiring the pins is tedious, difficult and therefore: expensive! So a eurorack version might end up costing close to a grand or so.
I could certainly see it as a neat way to interconnect several adjacent racks to one central rack in a larger studio type system using multipin edac or dsub connectors.
Shoot, now I have a new pie in the sky goal for my modular. Dead Banana
mbartkow
I would love to see a module that allows to shape the spectrum of a signal in a way similar to waveshaping in time domain.

For example, it could chop the signal into frames, compute the Fourier Transform, and produce a periodic wave whose shape is like the spectrum shape. This signal could be then mangled by any normal module, and transformed back to time domain.
uncleyam
atrostor wrote:
A Peaks with CV inputs for its four knobs would be amazing.


we can only dream. I love my peaks, but it not being syncable makes me sad. Dead Banana
asteraster
Paranormal Patroler whoa! LRQ and Arrythmia both look great! Thanks for pointing them out smile love anything that leads to interesting rhythms
Orwell
mdoudoroff wrote:
A pin matrix is an alternative to patch cabling. Pin matrices don't do any good without all the wiring behind them. Inserting a pin matrix to a patch cable system is just a way to make a complex thing even more confusing.


Don't nerd out so much cool Try to look at it from a creative and visual arts perspective. Music is art and creativity - first and foremost.
Pin matrixs on the synthi and vcs induce a sense of art. A sense of exploration. A sense of wonder. I.e Even a wrong pin, in the wrong hole, causes each ems to do their own thing.

I quite like the easel cards as well.
mdoudoroff
Something else I’ve been pondering: we’ve got a lot of sequencers designed principally for melody sequencing—deliberate or random—and that’s all well and good, but much of the time, there’s nothing all that inherently interesting about creating modular melodies: they tend to be relatively rudimentary structures that get interesting only with how you employ them.

Meanwhile, it seems to me that one of the most difficult things to do in modular sequencing is to move from one melodic pattern to another or back. Just achieving a basic ABA “song structure” can require a lot of patching and/or laboriously setting up presets in a high-end sequencer.

Hypothetically, I’d be interested in a module vaguely similar to the Zularic Repetitor, that you clock and it spits out multiple, complementary, parallel sequences—under cv selection—from a large built-in database of short, canned sequences (melodies and “bass lines”, not random). Ideally, selection changes would only take place when the current sequence ends, and the database of sequences would be prepared in a fashion that the sequences tend to work well together. Like the Zularic Repetitor, you could select any combination of sequences and change them up at any time, or revert, and you get a bunch of usable cv to employ however you like.
mdoudoroff
Orwell wrote:
mdoudoroff wrote:
A pin matrix is an alternative to patch cabling. Pin matrices don't do any good without all the wiring behind them. Inserting a pin matrix to a patch cable system is just a way to make a complex thing even more confusing.


Don't nerd out so much cool Try to look at it from a creative and visual arts perspective. Music is art and creativity - first and foremost.
Pin matrixs on the synthi and vcs induce a sense of art. A sense of exploration. A sense of wonder. I.e Even a wrong pin, in the wrong hole, causes each ems to do their own thing.

I quite like the easel cards as well.


Hurrumph. With any Eurorack system, you have plenty of opportunities to explore and plug things into “the wrong hole” without needing a pin matrix.

I’m not criticizing pin matrices—I dream of one day owning a Synthi (although that dream seems to be looking depressingly unlikely). The pin matrix is the EMS patching system, and it’s brilliant, but specific to an integrated “modular” synth design. It still has nothing to do with Eurorack; Eurorack isn’t integrated, and already has its own patching system.

If you have a specific use case—an “art project”—you can, with a little effort, build your own pin matrix. If you just want to bring in semi-unpredictable, tactile influences to your Eurorack, akin to pressing on an Easel card while it’s in use, you’ve got various options from Folktek, Mobenthey, Music Thing Modular, Error Instruments, Eowave, Make Noise and others.
lohacker
about pin matrices I'm loving the one on Sugar Bytes Factory,


ok this is software but it lets you create and explore a lot of wild patches with ease, you can also randomize connections and modulate the matrix, really awesome! love
Silver
I'm sure this can be done with existing modules (guessing a few VCA's do it), but something dedicated and user friendly would be nice...
a linear to expontential voltage converter. probably needs a built in attenuator and control over how exponential the signal is. Basically for modules that don't have 1V/oct input.
Looking around, I see the Disting has it as one of it's features, but that seems like a bit of a waste.
Would be easy to make, so I'm not sure why I don't see it existing as a stand alone. Am I wrong that this would be useful???
lohacker
Silver wrote:
I'm sure this can be done with existing modules (guessing a few VCA's do it), but something dedicated and user friendly would be nice...
a linear to expontential voltage converter. probably needs a built in attenuator and control over how exponential the signal is. Basically for modules that don't have 1V/oct input.
Looking around, I see the Disting has it as one of it's features, but that seems like a bit of a waste.
Would be easy to make, so I'm not sure why I don't see it existing as a stand alone. Am I wrong that this would be useful???


There are a few out there already:
Make Noise Format Jumbler
Harvestman English Tear
Ladik U-202 and U-201 for reverse Hz/V to V/oct
TouellSkouarn Jedonian
Elby ED102
and this one in diy, but not sure about availabilty
Silver
lohacker wrote:
Silver wrote:
I'm sure this can be done with existing modules (guessing a few VCA's do it), but something dedicated and user friendly would be nice...
a linear to expontential voltage converter. probably needs a built in attenuator and control over how exponential the signal is. Basically for modules that don't have 1V/oct input.
Looking around, I see the Disting has it as one of it's features, but that seems like a bit of a waste.
Would be easy to make, so I'm not sure why I don't see it existing as a stand alone. Am I wrong that this would be useful???


There are a few out there already:
Make Noise Format Jumbler
Harvestman English Tear
Ladik U-202 and U-201 for reverse Hz/V to V/oct
TouellSkouarn Jedonian
Elby ED102
and this one in diy, but not sure about availabilty


whoops... though I had looked harder. Thanks for the info lohacker
R.U.Nuts
A, well, a modular sequencer. Somehow like the Doepfer A-155/A-154 combo but smaller and with more different options to expand. For example take a main module with just the bread and butter 8 or 16 step sequencing functions and you can add various expanders or not if you like. For example an expander for CV over reset and start point, expander for individual gate outputs for each step, expander for tactile input like a pressure points, expander for ratcheting, CV over gate length, expander with inputs for each stage like the A-155, expander fir tap tempo master clock or even an expander for sequence memory. So you can customize and make your sequencer as complex or as simple as you want. Ladik offers such a concept, but even the full-on build with all expansions is still very basic...
Silver
R.U.Nuts wrote:
A, well, a modular sequencer. Somehow like the Doepfer A-155/A-154 combo but smaller and with more different options to expand. For example take a main module with just the bread and butter 8 or 16 step sequencing functions and you can add various expanders or not if you like. For example an expander for CV over reset and start point, expander for individual gate outputs for each step, expander for tactile input like a pressure points, expander for ratcheting, CV over gate length, expander with inputs for each stage like the A-155, expander fir tap tempo master clock or even an expander for sequence memory. So you can customize and make your sequencer as complex or as simple as you want. Ladik offers such a concept, but even the full-on build with all expansions is still very basic...


+1!
I've been working on building something like this for myself, but surprised it doesn't already exist. Kind of like the expansions for the Turing machine but for just a normal sequencer!
R.U.Nuts
Yes. I'm recently in the market for a sequencer but none of the offerings seems to fit my demands without lacking anything or having tons of features that I don't need. The Doepfer A-155/A-155/A-154 combo comes closest to what I want but it is such a huge panel hog which would require me to expand my rack way too much since I want to keep it compact and portable.
taintedsun
I put these together a month, or so, ago for fun. Not sure if they're technically possible. After speaking with someone who knows about building modules, I'd likely need to add a control or two to the matrix mixer.



In short, you're looking at:

- an eight-band EQ with q and frequency controls (12hp)
- a duel envelope generator reminiscent of Make Noise's Function with a limited feature-set (8hp)
- a 3x3 matrix mixer with vector-based "bleed" controls (16hp)

More details:

^ Click for a larger picture
mdoudoroff
R.U.Nuts wrote:
Yes. I'm recently in the market for a sequencer but none of the offerings seems to fit my demands without lacking anything or having tons of features that I don't need. The Doepfer A-155/A-155/A-154 combo comes closest to what I want but it is such a huge panel hog which would require me to expand my rack way too much since I want to keep it compact and portable.


Seems a sequencer that has more than one knob per step is going to unavoidably be a panel hog. Are knobs a requirement?

That aside, breaking out every last sequencer feature into its own expander probably makes no practical sense: lots of extra component costs and you would most likely sacrifice even more HP in the process.

To just say “without lacking anything or having tons of features that I don’t need” is pretty vague. What is it really that the market is not already providing?
R.U.Nuts
mdoudoroff wrote:
R.U.Nuts wrote:
Yes. I'm recently in the market for a sequencer but none of the offerings seems to fit my demands without lacking anything or having tons of features that I don't need. The Doepfer A-155/A-155/A-154 combo comes closest to what I want but it is such a huge panel hog which would require me to expand my rack way too much since I want to keep it compact and portable.


Seems a sequencer that has more than one knob per step is going to unavoidably be a panel hog. Are knobs a requirement?

That aside, breaking out every last sequencer feature into its own expander probably makes no practical sense: lots of extra component costs and you would most likely sacrifice even more HP in the process.

To just say “without lacking anything or having tons of features that I don’t need” is pretty vague. What is it really that the market is not already providing?


You would only sacrifice HP on features you want to have and leave out the rest. Concerning my own sequencer requirements I didn't go into detail since that's not the topic of this thread. But good news: After reading the René's manual a second time I think I'll go for a René.
pinkflag16
How about an analog delay that isn't huge or expensive, and doesn't squeal when you lower the delay time? There are compact sub-$100 guitar pedals that do this no problem on a 9v battery, so why is this such a challenge in Eurorack (I'm asking seriously)? very frustrating
thermionicjunky
pinkflag16 wrote:
How about an analog delay that isn't huge or expensive, and doesn't squeal when you lower the delay time? There are compact sub-$100 guitar pedals that do this no problem on a 9v battery, so why is this such a challenge in Eurorack (I'm asking seriously)? :bang:


I suppose that they tend to be huge and expensive because most modular users want more features than a typical pedal (or they'll just use a pedal). And BBDs that aggressively filter out the clock have extremely dark repeats which people complain about. Analogue Systems left the filtering to the user and people complained. The Modcan Super Delay is just about perfect, but it's not Euro, no longer available, expensive, and large.
pinkflag16
thermionicjunky wrote:
pinkflag16 wrote:
How about an analog delay that isn't huge or expensive, and doesn't squeal when you lower the delay time? There are compact sub-$100 guitar pedals that do this no problem on a 9v battery, so why is this such a challenge in Eurorack (I'm asking seriously)? very frustrating


I suppose that they tend to be huge and expensive because most modular users want more features than a typical pedal (or they'll just use a pedal). And BBDs that aggressively filter out the clock have extremely dark repeats which people complain about. Analogue Systems left the filtering to the user and people complained. The Modcan Super Delay is just about perfect, but it's not Euro, no longer available, expensive, and large.


Sounds like some people want a digital delay sound from an analog bbd. Of course analog will be darker - it's part of the appeal! I personally think this more often than not complements synths in general, with its warming effect. I use both digital and analog delay pedals outside the modular, but there are definite advantages to having one (of each) on board. SlayerBadger!
Paranormal Patroler
On the subject of pin matrices. You guys do know there are passive options which are extremely cheap for the Eurorack, right ?

Analogue Solutions offers two versions, and Future Sound Systems offers the passive (and extremely cheap!) MTX9. And since we are on Matrix options I always feel obliged to mention the Alyseum MS Matrix because, let's face it, it's the best one out there SlayerBadger! (I love that module!)


asteraster wrote:
Paranormal Patroler whoa! LRQ and Arrythmia both look great! Thanks for pointing them out smile love anything that leads to interesting rhythms


You're welcome mate. Happy to be of service!
Ghost_the_garden
I want an etch n sketch envelope generator
mdoudoroff
Paranormal Patroler wrote:
And since we are on Matrix options I always feel obliged to mention the Alyseum MS Matrix because, let's face it, it's the best one out there SlayerBadger! (I love that module!)


The MS Matrix is MUCH more interesting than a pin matrix.

Ghost_the_garden wrote:
I want an etch n sketch envelope generator


If you’re really looking for that cumbersome twin-dial Etch-a-sketch UI, then Erica Synths and Macro Machines might get you close… some day. But if you can think in segments, instead, then Rossum Electro Music might be able to set you up sooner.
mskala
Ghost_the_garden wrote:
I want an etch n sketch envelope generator


I tried one, but I got tired of having to pick up the whole rack and shake it upside down when I wanted a new envelope shape.
Markthom
I'd love to see a Euro sequencer using the approach the Novation Circuit uses for it's sequencing function, it's visually informative, really intuitive and multi layered.

Perhaps not the most efficient space wise, as you would need 50hp+ once you include all the necessary inputs & outputs, but I'd love it, having it in the case would mean one less thing to carry about smile
Nino
Doepfer A-195-1 Pitch-to-CV/MIDI Interface waah
sockmonkey
6x bipolar to unipolar / v.v. voltage converter in few HP.
R.U.Nuts
sockmonkey wrote:
6x bipolar to unipolar / v.v. voltage converter in few HP.


https://www.modulargrid.net/e/happy-nerding-3x-mia

3x two channel mixer with offset voltage on a channel with nothing plugged into the input = at least 3x bipolar to unipolar converter in few HP
R.U.Nuts
What about an analog to digital converter that puts out gates on seperate channels for each digit of the binary number it derives from the analog input?
The sampling of the ADC can be clocked externally. This way you could turn any analog voltage from LFOs, envelopes or CV sequencers into a multi channel polyphonic trigger sequence.
sopresada
A Cwejman sequencer.
R.U.Nuts
sopresada wrote:
Cwejman sequencer?


Cerjman made a sequencer? Couldn't find that one on the website...
sopresada
R.U.Nuts wrote:
sopresada wrote:
Cwejman sequencer?


Cerjman made a sequencer? Couldn't find that one on the website...


Nah, 'modules that should exist'. A Cwejman sequencer is a pretty intriguing idea though, but I've read Wowa is into 'sound' more than anything, so i dunno if he would be interested in doing one.
R.U.Nuts
sopresada wrote:
R.U.Nuts wrote:
sopresada wrote:
Cwejman sequencer?


Cerjman made a sequencer? Couldn't find that one on the website...


Nah, 'modules that should exist'. A Cwejman sequencer is a pretty intriguing idea though, but I've read Wowa is into 'sound' more than anything, so i dunno if he would be interested in doing one.


Sorry, I got you wrong. I thought your post about the Cwejman sequencer was an answer to my post above.
sopresada
R.U.Nuts wrote:
sopresada wrote:
R.U.Nuts wrote:
sopresada wrote:
Cwejman sequencer?


Cerjman made a sequencer? Couldn't find that one on the website...


Nah, 'modules that should exist'. A Cwejman sequencer is a pretty intriguing idea though, but I've read Wowa is into 'sound' more than anything, so i dunno if he would be interested in doing one.


Sorry, I got you wrong. I thought your post about the Cwejman sequencer was an answer to my post above.


yip, no worries
qwerty458
Doepfer A-138e w/voltage control

Clocked Slew - A slew module with slew time set in divisions/multiples of a clock (preferably with voltage control).

Clocked Gate Delay - A gate module with delay time set in divisions/multiples of a clock (preferably with voltage control).

Clocked Triggerd Gate - Sends a gate for a set number of divisions/multiples of a clock when it's input receives a positive/negative (or both) edge (preferably with voltage control over gate length).

Clocked ADSR - ADSR with each section's time being set in divisions/multiples of a clock (preferably with voltage control).

Analogue MUX/DEMUX - Simple gate-controlled routing tools to choose a source signal, or to which output a signal is sent.

Multiple Shared Step Sequencer - Since knobs take up the most panel space and are the most expensive parts I figured a good way to get extra use out of them in a sequencer would be to have multiple sequencers all using the same knobs for stage values; you'd have a bunch of independent sequencers all with the same step values that could run at independent speeds, etc. without increasing the footprint or cost of the module too much, you'd only need to add a few jacks at the panel, and another counter and an analogue MUX on the inside, for each extra sequencer (as long as the basic sequencer isn't too complex).

A massive matrix of these things:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bwl-aJm3wG4nTkhKY3FDc2NGNkE

I don't even own a modular, but these all sound like they could be pretty useful.
sockmonkey
R.U.Nuts wrote:
sockmonkey wrote:
6x bipolar to unipolar / v.v. voltage converter in few HP.


https://www.modulargrid.net/e/happy-nerding-3x-mia

3x two channel mixer with offset voltage on a channel with nothing plugged into the input = at least 3x bipolar to unipolar converter in few HP


This is somewhat better than Shades, but it's still a lot of module to manage a fairly routine task. There's a -2.5 to 2.5V standard for CV and 0-8V standard for envelopes (which are generally ignored), but providing a simple utility to convert from -2.5/2.5 or -5/5 to 0-5 or 0-8 and back is such a no-brainer, and provides immediate benefits for any sized system, I don't know why there aren't several slim, cheap options to handle the task. Given, there's shades/blinds, SISM, 3xMIA, but they all do other stuff and take up more space than is necessary for a simple scale/offset.
Dcramer
Sockmonkey - would a 2hp CV mixer (like the Intellijel) with an offset CV patched to one input fill the bill?

Qwerty - the Z8000 sequencer produces ten differently clocked sequencers with 16 knobs, is a bidirectional switch what you're looking for in a Mux/Demux? And maybe the new Control Forge can do clocked adsrs?
Another trick is to use a dual sequencer, one channel being the envelope values and the other controlling a slew and clock. thumbs up
R.U.Nuts
qwerty458 wrote:


Clocked Gate Delay - A gate module with delay time set in divisions/multiples of a clock (preferably with voltage control).

.


You can plug the output of your gate delay into the input of a S&H and clock the S&H with the master clock. That's not ideal, since you have to tweak the delay time to make surw the S&H won't miss a gate when gates are fairly short but it would work I guess.
euromorcego
R.U.Nuts wrote:
What about an analog to digital converter that puts out gates on seperate channels for each digit of the binary number it derives from the analog input?
The sampling of the ADC can be clocked externally. This way you could turn any analog voltage from LFOs, envelopes or CV sequencers into a multi channel polyphonic trigger sequence.

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/mystic-circuits-vert-
VZvision
Ghost_the_garden wrote:
I want an etch n sketch envelope generator


Omnimod by Macro Machines. Scheduled to be out by the end of November
R.U.Nuts
euromorcego wrote:
R.U.Nuts wrote:
What about an analog to digital converter that puts out gates on seperate channels for each digit of the binary number it derives from the analog input?
The sampling of the ADC can be clocked externally. This way you could turn any analog voltage from LFOs, envelopes or CV sequencers into a multi channel polyphonic trigger sequence.

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/mystic-circuits-vert-


Cool! Thanks for that. It only bugs me that in unipolar mode it needs up to 8V to work through all 256 values. Many CV modules have a range of 0-5V. Given that this module has an input attenuator it would have been better to scale it to work with 0-5V. Higher Voltages could be attenuated then. But using a 0-5V source would require a DC coulpled amp module...
damase
2hp vca with bias and attenuverter

Analog thru zero synth voice- dual sine osc thing
autopoiesis
damase wrote:
2hp vca with bias and attenuverter


Yeah, I've thought this before. Ideally, with 2 switches determining whether the 2 pots act as unipolar vs. bipolar controls (Triatt / Shades style) -- trying to dial in dead-zero on a bipolar mini-pot is hell. 2 switches, 2 mini pots, and 3 jacks has been pretty ergonomically feasible on my EON, as long as I'm thoughtful about where I locate it in the system.
Paranormal Patroler
R.U.Nuts wrote:
euromorcego wrote:
R.U.Nuts wrote:
What about an analog to digital converter that puts out gates on seperate channels for each digit of the binary number it derives from the analog input?
The sampling of the ADC can be clocked externally. This way you could turn any analog voltage from LFOs, envelopes or CV sequencers into a multi channel polyphonic trigger sequence.

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/mystic-circuits-vert-


Cool! Thanks for that. It only bugs me that in unipolar mode it needs up to 8V to work through all 256 values. Many CV modules have a range of 0-5V. Given that this module has an input attenuator it would have been better to scale it to work with 0-5V. Higher Voltages could be attenuated then. But using a 0-5V source would require a DC coulpled amp module...


Check R2R and VCSQ thumbs up
R.U.Nuts
Paranormal Patroler wrote:
R.U.Nuts wrote:
euromorcego wrote:
R.U.Nuts wrote:
What about an analog to digital converter that puts out gates on seperate channels for each digit of the binary number it derives from the analog input?
The sampling of the ADC can be clocked externally. This way you could turn any analog voltage from LFOs, envelopes or CV sequencers into a multi channel polyphonic trigger sequence.

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/mystic-circuits-vert-


Cool! Thanks for that. It only bugs me that in unipolar mode it needs up to 8V to work through all 256 values. Many CV modules have a range of 0-5V. Given that this module has an input attenuator it would have been better to scale it to work with 0-5V. Higher Voltages could be attenuated then. But using a 0-5V source would require a DC coulpled amp module...


Check R2R and VCSQ thumbs up


You mean Ginko VCSQ? That's a different concept: the trigger outputs are assigned to different voltage ranges. What I mean is an ADC that puts out the digital values as triggers. The obvious difference: VCSQ has only one active channel at a time. An ADC based module could have any number of channels active at a time.
And the R2R is the exact opposite: It's a DAC. It converts up to eight triggers into an analog voltage. Pretty interesting module. Thanks for that thumbs up
Paranormal Patroler
R2R is passive, it might work in the opposite direction just as well. Worth checking the manual me thinks.
Veqtor
qwerty458 wrote:

Multiple Shared Step Sequencer - Since knobs take up the most panel space and are the most expensive parts I figured a good way to get extra use out of them in a sequencer would be to have multiple sequencers all using the same knobs for stage values; you'd have a bunch of independent sequencers all with the same step values that could run at independent speeds, etc. without increasing the footprint or cost of the module too much, you'd only need to add a few jacks at the panel, and another counter and an analogue MUX on the inside, for each extra sequencer (as long as the basic sequencer isn't too complex).


This is the Tiptop Audio Z-8000, owned one before, but realized it's not quite as useful as one might think, quantity is sometimes better than density.
Doublecoolbossman
A precision adder/ subtracter in tile format waah
mharpum
Had a thought the other day, a true polyphonic sequencer and oscillator.

They would need to be designed and made by the same company until a standard is put in place.

Perhaps the sequencer would have a small screen with a piano roll type display, a MIDI keyboard could be attached for quantized recording.

To avoid it getting too complicated, have only 3 or 4 note polyphony.

I think the real challenge would be the user interface, trying to keep it simple without too much menu diving would be difficult.

You could have an all in one module with sequencer and oscillator, or keep them separate and release different compatible oscillators to go with it.

Separate outs for each voice, a mix out and trigger inputs for each voice.

I realize this will never happen because it would be very expensive, complicated and there are loads of poly synths out there already, plus it is so much easier to do this on a computer!
Daisuk
I had an idea while quite ... hazed, shall we say, yesterday.

A spectral panner module, where you would have individual pan control over say 6 fixed frequency bands of an incoming sound. I guess you could achieve it with a blend of fixed freq filters and mixers, but would be cool to have in one module.

Gonna try out with Ableton now to hear if it would be any good at all. razz

Edit - yes, it's wicked! Someone make it, please. lol Mr. Green Made a little test using Shapeshifter into Make Noise FxdF, then band outs into Live and using the auto-pan plugin in Live. Sounds great, I think. smile

[s]http://soundcloud.com/green-gym/spectralpanner[/s]
euromorcego
Daisuk wrote:

A spectral panner module, where you would have individual pan control over say 6 fixed frequency bands of an incoming sound. [...] , but would be cool to have in one module.

it is called modular for a reason. The FXDf and the Rxmx is pretty close (the rxmx has 3 outputs. The FXDf (is cheap and) can be combined with a variety of modules, try the Sputnik Stereo Mixer (or any 6 channel stereo mixer).

I quite like the FXDf is combination with the Turing Vactrol Mix. I don't think it would be rocket science to build something like this with added pan control.
Daisuk
euromorcego wrote:
Daisuk wrote:

A spectral panner module, where you would have individual pan control over say 6 fixed frequency bands of an incoming sound. [...] , but would be cool to have in one module.

it is called modular for a reason. The FXDf and the Rxmx is pretty close (the rxmx has 3 outputs. The FXDf (is cheap and) can be combined with a variety of modules, try the Sputnik Stereo Mixer (or any 6 channel stereo mixer).

I quite like the FXDf is combination with the Turing Vactrol Mix. I don't think it would be rocket science to build something like this with added pan control.


True! I'm gonna check it out. Would be nice to have VC over the phasing of the panning as well. It's just that the panning mixers out there with CV control are massive.

The Happy Nerding pan-mix would be pretty ace for it, I reckon!
dysonant
Daisuk That did sound dope as hell. oNly 4 bands possible, but for a smaller footprint what about a combo of the Verbos Scan & Pan and the fxdf?
FatRocky
something like the Plan B Model 14
bennyboy
I would love to see a copy or a version of the URSA Space Station multi tap delay / reverb unit in Eurorack format. I would snap that up so quickly. Anyone know if we have anythinf similar to this unit?
Ras Thavas
bennyboy wrote:
I would love to see a copy or a version of the URSA Space Station multi tap delay / reverb unit in Eurorack format. I would snap that up so quickly. Anyone know if we have anythinf similar to this unit?


There actually was development by the creator of the Space Station to do just that five years ago. Rumor was development stopped because the price point was going to be about $1000. A quick Google search will show a picture of the module racked with other eurorack.
bennyboy
There actually was development by the creator of the Space Station to do just that five years ago. Rumor was development stopped because the price point was going to be about $1000. A quick Google search will show a picture of the module racked with other eurorack.[/quote]

Ahhh really? Shame that it got to that point. I have searched far and low on Google but never seen anything, I was actually going to start a thread but seen this one. Thanks for the info mate.
FatRocky
a beautiful line of eventide glorious digital reverb and effects ( in eurorack of course)
Margins_of_the_Mind
I would love a multimode distortion module with a similar format to the intellijel Polaris. Mode would have a selection of different distortion flavours - Tube (Korg Nutube chip?), overdrive, fuzz, vactrol etc. Type would give soft, medium, hard and extream clipping/knee options. Give voltage control of drive, wet/dry, tone (eq/filter) etc. Add an automatic gain reduction switch and you would end up with a bit of a beast. Think Abletons saturator for eurorack.
calaveras
a real time reverse reverb effect. Like when you record something then flip the tape over (or reverse the track) and add reverb.
Reverse reverb presets on reverb effects dont work the same because the 'reverse' starts at the same time as the note.
It needs to start before the note.
I am confident that with today's practical quantum physics we can solve this with tachyons, quantum entanglement, diluthium crystals etc.
krz
I've asked for years...and it's been touched on in this thread.
Guitar pedal effects are small and super varied, and individualistic,
especially these days, with what's capable being very extensive.
What's stopping anyone from putting guitar pedal circuits into a Eurorack format? There's pedal signal convertors and the expensive Pittsburgh option,
but it just seems a no brainer to make a pedals circuits and patchbay
in a module.
Daisuk
krz wrote:
I've asked for years...and it's been touched on in this thread.
Guitar pedal effects are small and super varied, and individualistic,
especially these days, with what's capable being very extensive.
What's stopping anyone from putting guitar pedal circuits into a Eurorack format? There's pedal signal convertors and the expensive Pittsburgh option,
but it just seems a no brainer to make a pedals circuits and patchbay
in a module.


From a guy who knows nothing about pedals - which do you reckon would be useful in euro format? smile
mbartkow
Daisuk wrote:

A spectral panner module, where you would have individual pan control over say 6 fixed frequency bands of an incoming sound.

It's very easy to patch, and you don't need a panning mixer for that. Just run your signal through a filterbank or a graphic eq (like e.g. Serge resonant), then split. Add one copy to your original signal for your L, subtract the second copy from your original signal for your R. Now, the faders of your fb will act like panning pots. Bonus: mono compatibility.
Daisuk
mbartkow wrote:
Daisuk wrote:

A spectral panner module, where you would have individual pan control over say 6 fixed frequency bands of an incoming sound.

It's very easy to patch, and you don't need a panning mixer for that. Just run your signal through a filterbank or a graphic eq (like e.g. Serge resonant), then split. Add one copy to your original signal for your L, subtract the second copy from your original signal for your R. Now, the faders of your fb will act like panning pots. Bonus: mono compatibility.


Hey, smart move! Hadn't thought of that. woah Nice, thanks for the tip, gotto try it out with the 601. smile
krz
[quote="Daisuk"][quote="krz"]I've asked for years...and it's been touched on in this thread.
Guitar pedal effects are small and super varied, and individualistic,
especially these days, with what's capable being very extensive.
What's stopping anyone from putting guitar pedal circuits into a Eurorack format? There's pedal signal convertors and the expensive Pittsburgh option,
but it just seems a no brainer to make a pedals circuits and patchbay
in a module.[/quote]

From a guy who knows nothing about pedals - which do you reckon would be useful in euro format? smile[/quote]

I have quite a few pedals here... over 40 on last count
and I'm not sure where to start. A DIY pedal building website,
of which there are a few might shed some light on the choices.
There are many distortion, overdrives, fuzz'es, EQ's,choruses,
flangers, envelope followers, octave dividers, tremolos. There
are basic pcb's already for sale and many pedals throughout
history have been reverse engineered. I could name a few of
the more esoteric type effects that ai like a lot, some of which
are being implemented in Eurorack.. like loopers, glitch and
grain sampling type effects but I'm referring to the more basic
"tone shapers" to start because as far as I known no one is taking
stock or advantage of the existing knowledge and tech I referred
to earlier. The Pittburgh solution is quite pricey imo and a bit limited.
With the right research, and DIY skills, I thinks there's some sounds
yet to be heard from these basic (for guitar and bass) effects.
Skinny Puppy used guitar pedals in the mid-80's in synths as
another example. Change a pedals i/o from 6.5mm to 3.5mm
and you're off to the races. Have people already used
generalguitargadgets in Euro? Maybe there's a gap in the "market"
that I should personally be investing in instead of talking about here? LOL
I haven't had much response other than impedance and jack
matching modules haven't seen anything as such implemented but
I may have missed something? smile Just a thought... especailly with
the patch-bay ability, the tonal variety added could be immense and not $500?
ehg
From the "drum sequencer" thread also on the front page currently: a multi-output mute utility. 8 inputs each with an individual output and a switch or button to mute the signal. Think the Melekko Mute 4, but with dedicated outputs rather then a single summed one. Could be a really simple passive circuit.
Dcramer
Daisuk wrote:
euromorcego wrote:
Daisuk wrote:

A spectral panner module, where you would have individual pan control over say 6 fixed frequency bands of an incoming sound. [...] , but would be cool to have in one module.

it is called modular for a reason. The FXDf and the Rxmx is pretty close (the rxmx has 3 outputs. The FXDf (is cheap and) can be combined with a variety of modules, try the Sputnik Stereo Mixer (or any 6 channel stereo mixer).

I quite like the FXDf is combination with the Turing Vactrol Mix. I don't think it would be rocket science to build something like this with added pan control.


True! I'm gonna check it out. Would be nice to have VC over the phasing of the panning as well. It's just that the panning mixers out there with CV control are massive.

The Happy Nerding pan-mix would be pretty ace for it, I reckon!

4MS SMR patched into a mixer with CV panning. thumbs up
hegeldas
Would like a collaboration of kurzweil and intellijel for a KSP8 in a eurorack
8 analog voice of incredible effect, and a patch bay for cv control nanners
FatRocky
I would like to see a Shippmann take on the bode frequency Shifter
Paranormal Patroler
ehg wrote:
From the "drum sequencer" thread also on the front page currently: a multi-output mute utility. 8 inputs each with an individual output and a switch or button to mute the signal. Think the Melekko Mute 4, but with dedicated outputs rather then a single summed one. Could be a really simple passive circuit.


The Mutinator from Manhattan Analog is a great module for this purpose. It's also an OR combiner and a very playable module at that.
ehg
Ah, that looks grand! Slightly more functionality / cost / HP than I need or want, so I'm thinking of building my own little 4 to 8 HP passive thing, but yep it looks like a great piece of kit.
Paranormal Patroler
You could also check Suboptimal's Short Bus 2. It's passive so I assume it can pull of what you want ... two inputs to 7 ouputs. Not sure if it can though, maybe it's worth asking Logan. It's 6HP so definitely worth it.
davidh
speech synth with screen and usb/bluetooth connectivity for a keayboard
Fiddlestickz
A MIDI controller in euro format..and before you ask why on earth, because for me to have all my shit in my cases is better than having crap all over my desk and extra cabling going everywhere that I don't want or have the space for.

a MIDI controller module that's just a series of knobs and a couple of sliders that can used to control anything you want, for instance a lot of the Elektron boxes don't spit out any MIDI controller messages to control other synths or to be used to control software, I would use one to control software, and as one of my cases lives right next to my computer/interface it would work perfectly, just 6 knobs and 3 sliders would be ace..
Paranormal Patroler
Fiddlestickz wrote:
A MIDI controller in euro format..and before you ask why on earth, because for me to have all my shit in my cases is better than having crap all over my desk and extra cabling going everywhere that I don't want or have the space for.

a MIDI controller module that's just a series of knobs and a couple of sliders that can used to control anything you want, for instance a lot of the Elektron boxes don't spit out any MIDI controller messages to control other synths or to be used to control software, I would use one to control software, and as one of my cases lives right next to my computer/interface it would work perfectly, just 6 knobs and 3 sliders would be ace..


There's a whole line of Eurorack sized MIDI controllers.
Fiddlestickz
Paranormal Patroler wrote:
Fiddlestickz wrote:
A MIDI controller in euro format..and before you ask why on earth, because for me to have all my shit in my cases is better than having crap all over my desk and extra cabling going everywhere that I don't want or have the space for.

a MIDI controller module that's just a series of knobs and a couple of sliders that can used to control anything you want, for instance a lot of the Elektron boxes don't spit out any MIDI controller messages to control other synths or to be used to control software, I would use one to control software, and as one of my cases lives right next to my computer/interface it would work perfectly, just 6 knobs and 3 sliders would be ace..


There's a whole line of Eurorack sized MIDI controllers.


what do you mean..?? what are they..?

I'm talking about a MIDI controller module that could be screwed into my case, even powered by it that was covered in knobs and sliders and a 5 pin MIDI out patch, it wouldn't necessarily be used to control anything modular but it would be great to get everything off my desk and into my cases whether they are modular by nature or not..

I think being modular has this closed fence mentality still in that we only have modules that are to work within limited array of euro devices. Eurorack doesn't have to be just about eurorack modules that make noise or switch or filter, the cases can be harnessed for other things like MIDI controllers and Guitar effects, microphones, drum pads, dumb knobs that control other modules and you assign whatever CV value to it you want...etc etc..anything we use can be built to fit into a Modular case, I see that side of this hobby a little under utilized..
mskala
Fiddlestickz wrote:
Paranormal Patroler wrote:
There's a whole line of Eurorack sized MIDI controllers.


what do you mean..?? what are they..?


http://lividinstruments.com/news/elements-modular-midi-control-system/

I don't know if they still sell it. The "buy now" link is dead, and it's not listed on their current products page, but it's also not listed on their "legacy" products page.
Paranormal Patroler
mskala wrote:
Fiddlestickz wrote:
Paranormal Patroler wrote:
There's a whole line of Eurorack sized MIDI controllers.


what do you mean..?? what are they..?


http://lividinstruments.com/news/elements-modular-midi-control-system/

I don't know if they still sell it. The "buy now" link is dead, and it's not listed on their current products page, but it's also not listed on their "legacy" products page.


mskala was quicker. Those are all eurorack format according to their site. Dunno about ins and outs but I guess a couple of modifications would make it work.
windspirit
R.U.Nuts wrote:
euromorcego wrote:
R.U.Nuts wrote:
What about an analog to digital converter that puts out gates on seperate channels for each digit of the binary number it derives from the analog input?
The sampling of the ADC can be clocked externally. This way you could turn any analog voltage from LFOs, envelopes or CV sequencers into a multi channel polyphonic trigger sequence.

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/mystic-circuits-vert-


Cool! Thanks for that. It only bugs me that in unipolar mode it needs up to 8V to work through all 256 values. Many CV modules have a range of 0-5V. Given that this module has an input attenuator it would have been better to scale it to work with 0-5V. Higher Voltages could be attenuated then. But using a 0-5V source would require a DC coulpled amp module...


Hi, was flipping through the thread and saw thIs. The vert's range of conversion is 0-5v when in unipolar mode and the input attenuator is all the way open wink.

From what I understand the R-2R is a digital to analog converter (when used only with gates) whereas the vert is an analog to digital converter. Not 100% sure what the vcsq does.
Fiddlestickz
mskala wrote:
Fiddlestickz wrote:
Paranormal Patroler wrote:
There's a whole line of Eurorack sized MIDI controllers.


what do you mean..?? what are they..?


http://lividinstruments.com/news/elements-modular-midi-control-system/

I don't know if they still sell it. The "buy now" link is dead, and it's not listed on their current products page, but it's also not listed on their "legacy" products page.


whoa those are badass, thanks for sharing that, I had no idea about those.. thumbs up
Fiddlestickz
oh...too bad it seems they do not make those anymore for whatever reason, probably not enough call for them...shame as I think it's a great idea..
djd_oz
FatRocky wrote:
a beautiful line of eventide glorious digital reverb and effects ( in eurorack of course)


I was going to post, an eurorack Eventide H9 with a few CV inputs would be out of this world.
djd_oz
Margins_of_the_Mind wrote:
I would love a multimode distortion module with a similar format to the intellijel Polaris. Mode would have a selection of different distortion flavours - Tube (Korg Nutube chip?), overdrive, fuzz, vactrol etc. Type would give soft, medium, hard and extream clipping/knee options. Give voltage control of drive, wet/dry, tone (eq/filter) etc. Add an automatic gain reduction switch and you would end up with a bit of a beast. Think Abletons saturator for eurorack.


Analog Heat comes close with I think 1 CV input.
jackmattson
something like Redrum from Propellerheads. Sample loading drum module with step sequencer and control of some basic params with knobs and CV.
Pico drum and a step sequencer look to come close.
DonKartofflo
A harmonizer like the EHX HOG but with cvover individual outputs and a scan/tilt function like the verbos HO.
I think it would sell like hot cakes.
richc90
I'd like to see Make Noise's take on a joystick.
nickkwas
I'd like a really nice-sounding, simply laid-out mixer module, 8 stereo channels, all identical with a stereo pair of inputs each with attenuators, two stereo FX send/returns, and a master fader. No CV control. No weird parameter controls i won't use.
pmarchitect
but *don't*
pmarchitect
Sequencers - if you want a certain feature ie note repeat per step, you go to a specific module, but them it does have x feature.

Really with the size of most of the staple sequencers I would expect much more functionality. Including linked patterns / song / progression mode, 64 step with all features we want.
RTG
A complete drum voice where you can program a beat and then CV-control the amount of "agitation" it gets - like fills and syncopation. Also velocity.

Kind of like EZ drummer (is that the one i'm thinking of?) but for analog electronic sounds.

EDIT ok not very "modular" in approach.
Daisuk
pmarchitect wrote:
Sequencers - if you want a certain feature ie note repeat per step, you go to a specific module, but them it does have x feature.

Really with the size of most of the staple sequencers I would expect much more functionality. Including linked patterns / song / progression mode, 64 step with all features we want.


Agreed. And fixed. wink Varigate 8 is the closest at the moment, it seems.
moofi
Finally lol

pmarchitect wrote:
but *don't*
Paranormal Patroler
moofi wrote:
Finally lol

pmarchitect wrote:
but *don't*


And OP changed the title. Thank you, much appreciated. I'm usually far from a grammar nazi but this one made me cringe for some stupid reason. Dunno why ...
moofi
I feel you lol

Paranormal Patroler wrote:
moofi wrote:
Finally lol

pmarchitect wrote:
but *don't*


And OP changed the title. Thank you, much appreciated. I'm usually far from a grammar nazi but this one made me cringe for some stupid reason. Dunno why ...
acidicfeces
Daisuk wrote:
A slim mixer, say 8 hp, with 4 channels 2->1 for mixing CV. Would love to send say an LFO through a channel, to a module, and then send a second CV in (like a more static signal/offset that's slowly increasing and decreasing) to add or subtract from the LFO signal (not like with VCA's where you just modulate the strength, but add to the original signal).

I know there are mixers that can do this, but they're usually like 1 channel and/or too big.

Someone please make one! Mr. Green

I've been thinking about something like this, too. Happy nerding is on the right track with it's 3xMIA (3 channels of 2->1 attenuverting mixers capable of chaining in 6hp). My extra request would be to make it capable of higher voltages, like what Invy does.
FatRocky
Something like Clouds but with really good sound quality........please let me know if something like that exists?
pmarchitect
moofi wrote:
I feel you lol

Paranormal Patroler wrote:
moofi wrote:
Finally lol

pmarchitect wrote:
but *don't*


And OP changed the title. Thank you, much appreciated. I'm usually far from a grammar nazi but this one made me cringe for some stupid reason. Dunno why ...


Oh wow! Just seen title change. thumbs up
Bob Borries


A Lowpass + Comb Filter for the ages!

A 4 Pole lowpass filter that screams with a comb filter (+ or - feedback) tracking the frequency of the Lowpass in perfect sync (or not)
brickman
+1 for a comb filter . There seem to be precious few of them in eurorack .

I'd love to see a touch screen module with 4 drawable MSEGs , with cv input to modify rate and depth of the MSEGs .
mbartkow
Every flanger and phaser is a comb filter
Lsd911
A passive mid side encoder. Two way so L R can be the outputs too.

A delayed all pass filter like kiloheartz disperser.
euromorcego
Lsd911 wrote:
A passive mid side encoder. Two way so L R can be the outputs too.

why does it have to be passive? There is one by worng electronics [https://www.modulargrid.net/e/worng-electronics-lrmsmslr-black-and-go ld-panel] and it is two way: L/R are also available as outputs.
Lsd911
euromorcego wrote:
Lsd911 wrote:
A passive mid side encoder. Two way so L R can be the outputs too.

why does it have to be passive? There is one by worng electronics [https://www.modulargrid.net/e/worng-electronics-lrmsmslr-black-and-go ld-panel] and it is two way: L/R are also available as outputs.


I'm just being picky about passive in an imaginary thread. I'm going to try the Worng version, I would've just liked it to be able to go in my passive utility box.
mattsb
On the prosaic side, a 2hp buff mult with the inputs normalled to a fixed voltage source, so that when I want to use my Mutamix as a sequencer, I don't have to use a channel of Maths and a whole buff mult. Yes it's not "in the spirit of modular", but it just bugs me for some reason. Or to have the Mutamix normal its inputs to 10v (but then that wouldn't belong in this thread hihi

On the wilder side, a set of wireless plugs that mesh together via RF and that act as wireless patch cables. You could choose which two (or more) you want to plug together via some kind of simple touch gestures on a multi coloured led /button (think Tempi buttons that can do 256 colors) on the end.
jack4ss92
a reset trigger button smile, so that you can sync all your modules with the click of a button
boom blip
jack4ss92 wrote:
a reset trigger button smile, so that you can sync all your modules with the click of a button


http://pulplogic.com/product/fsr/ + stack cables?
Paranormal Patroler
boom blip wrote:
jack4ss92 wrote:
a reset trigger button smile, so that you can sync all your modules with the click of a button


http://pulplogic.com/product/fsr/ + stack cables?


Using the Doepfer a-184-1 for this purpose as well.
R.U.Nuts
Paranormal Patroler wrote:
boom blip wrote:
jack4ss92 wrote:
a reset trigger button smile, so that you can sync all your modules with the click of a button


http://pulplogic.com/product/fsr/ + stack cables?


Using the Doepfer a-184-1 for this purpose as well.


I use a clock divider for this. no need for resetting manually. But yeah, there are a few manual gate modules. Ladik has one (that can also provide tap tempo clock), Thonk/Horsetronic (with a nice Arcade-style button and some funky logic) and Trogotronic (actually a VCA with a manual gate button). you'll only need a multiple to distribute the gate to the modules you like to reset.
Trigga
don't know whether this was already mentioned, but I'm missing: the perfect mixer with mutes for a reasonable price!
Paranormal Patroler
R.U.Nuts wrote:
I use a clock divider for this. no need for resetting manually. But yeah, there are a few manual gate modules. Ladik has one (that can also provide tap tempo clock), Thonk/Horsetronic (with a nice Arcade-style button and some funky logic) and Trogotronic (actually a VCA with a manual gate button). you'll only need a multiple to distribute the gate to the modules you like to reset.


Funny that you'd mention it, that's exactly how I use the a-184-1. The a-184-1 has an input and you can use button 1 as a switch so I plug the output of Pamela there and use it to Reset everything in time with the first clock.
dooj88
JohnLRice wrote:
strettara wrote:
I would like an LFO with a digital readout so I could set it precisely to cycle once every 23 seconds or whatever. Something like a z3000, but as an LFO - cycle times from say 0,0005 Hz (around 30 minutes) to 50 Hz.
That would be really useful! thumbs up

Another thing that might be cool, is a Coordinated Universal Time event generator. (see http://www.hamuniverse.com/utctime.html ) It probably wouldn't be practical to build a good enough radio receiver into a module . . although there are lots of reasonably priced clocks and watches that have it. hmmm..... Anyway, coordinated world wide music events could be orchestrated, time of day interactive sound installations could use it, internet concerts/jams could use it etc.


bumping for justice!! hihi Drinking

one i thought of is a radio signal to CV conversion. could have differing tranlational algos or a wavefolder built in for interesting, crazy and unpredictable modulation sources. i'm trying to piece it together, but i'm circuitry illiterate, so it'll take a bit of time. arduino seems like a good platform to use.
dysonant
Trigga wrote:
don't know whether this was already mentioned, but I'm missing: the perfect mixer with mutes for a reasonable price!


Topobillo StereoMix. Plus there are a ton of mixers out there now.
dysonant
dooj88 wrote:
JohnLRice wrote:
strettara wrote:
I would like an LFO with a digital readout so I could set it precisely to cycle once every 23 seconds or whatever. Something like a z3000, but as an LFO - cycle times from say 0,0005 Hz (around 30 minutes) to 50 Hz.
That would be really useful! thumbs up

Another thing that might be cool, is a Coordinated Universal Time event generator. (see http://www.hamuniverse.com/utctime.html ) It probably wouldn't be practical to build a good enough radio receiver into a module . . although there are lots of reasonably priced clocks and watches that have it. hmmm..... Anyway, coordinated world wide music events could be orchestrated, time of day interactive sound installations could use it, internet concerts/jams could use it etc.


bumping for justice!! hihi Drinking

one i thought of is a radio signal to CV conversion. could have differing tranlational algos or a wavefolder built in for interesting, crazy and unpredictable modulation sources. i'm trying to piece it together, but i'm circuitry illiterate, so it'll take a bit of time. arduino seems like a good platform to use.


This maybe? https://www.modulargrid.net/e/evaton-technologies-rf-nomad
dooj88
dysonant wrote:
dooj88 wrote:
JohnLRice wrote:
strettara wrote:
I would like an LFO with a digital readout so I could set it precisely to cycle once every 23 seconds or whatever. Something like a z3000, but as an LFO - cycle times from say 0,0005 Hz (around 30 minutes) to 50 Hz.
That would be really useful! thumbs up

Another thing that might be cool, is a Coordinated Universal Time event generator. (see http://www.hamuniverse.com/utctime.html ) It probably wouldn't be practical to build a good enough radio receiver into a module . . although there are lots of reasonably priced clocks and watches that have it. hmmm..... Anyway, coordinated world wide music events could be orchestrated, time of day interactive sound installations could use it, internet concerts/jams could use it etc.


bumping for justice!! hihi Drinking

one i thought of is a radio signal to CV conversion. could have differing tranlational algos or a wavefolder built in for interesting, crazy and unpredictable modulation sources. i'm trying to piece it together, but i'm circuitry illiterate, so it'll take a bit of time. arduino seems like a good platform to use.


This maybe? https://www.modulargrid.net/e/evaton-technologies-rf-nomad


yeah i've seen that, and while it's a start, it doesn't generate CV based on radio station audio
Jaypee
LFO step sequencer like Step LFO plug in by Expert Sleepers.

Hope Eloquencer will do this. And more: Mixing several waveforms to achieve complex waveforms.

I know Control Forge but it's just 1 output, and you can't mix waveforms.
sendepause
2 or 3 aux / send with 6 channel inputs...
we're not worthy
neonmercury1
sendepause wrote:
2 or 3 aux / send with 6 channel inputs...
we're not worthy


https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=180586&sid=b57a9b78a 89e759623a482832b6a3f0b

the euro mixer with all the bells and whistles if that is what you mean. maybe im just projecting my desires but multiple stereo effects sends 5 stereo channels plus a hellova lot more.

edit: unless your talking about the previous post in which case this is irrelevant. but gives me the gas...
dysonant
Jaypee wrote:
LFO step sequencer like Step LFO plug in by Expert Sleepers.

Hope Eloquencer will do this. And more: Mixing several waveforms to achieve complex waveforms.

I know Control Forge but it's just 1 output, and you can't mix waveforms.


Malekko Voltage Block. 16 Steps of CV, use the glide to smooth. Boom, LFO Step sequencer. In fact and CV sequencer could do something similar.
R.U.Nuts
dooj88 wrote:
dysonant wrote:
dooj88 wrote:
JohnLRice wrote:
strettara wrote:
I would like an LFO with a digital readout so I could set it precisely to cycle once every 23 seconds or whatever. Something like a z3000, but as an LFO - cycle times from say 0,0005 Hz (around 30 minutes) to 50 Hz.
That would be really useful! thumbs up

Another thing that might be cool, is a Coordinated Universal Time event generator. (see http://www.hamuniverse.com/utctime.html ) It probably wouldn't be practical to build a good enough radio receiver into a module . . although there are lots of reasonably priced clocks and watches that have it. hmmm..... Anyway, coordinated world wide music events could be orchestrated, time of day interactive sound installations could use it, internet concerts/jams could use it etc.


bumping for justice!! hihi Drinking

one i thought of is a radio signal to CV conversion. could have differing tranlational algos or a wavefolder built in for interesting, crazy and unpredictable modulation sources. i'm trying to piece it together, but i'm circuitry illiterate, so it'll take a bit of time. arduino seems like a good platform to use.


This maybe? https://www.modulargrid.net/e/evaton-technologies-rf-nomad


yeah i've seen that, and while it's a start, it doesn't generate CV based on radio station audio


Why not run a radio output through an envelope follower?
FatRocky
a bread an butter oscilloscope eurorack module with a proper big screen
akrylik
FatRocky wrote:
a bread an butter oscilloscope eurorack module with a proper big screen


The Mordax DATA is not big enough for you? eek!
Jumbuktu
dysonant wrote:
Trigga wrote:
don't know whether this was already mentioned, but I'm missing: the perfect mixer with mutes for a reasonable price!


Topobillo StereoMix. Plus there are a ton of mixers out there now.


I have the Toppo mixer, and it's good ... but I would really like something like a stereo version of the mutamix. Perhaps a digital mixer with 'scenes' and a way of changing scenes using CV and gates ... plus a variable slew between scenes. Maybe a stereo cross between mutamix and frames?
anosou
I've always wanted a probability-based melody crossfader. Plug in two voltages and a gate. At each gate, it has X% probability to sample the voltage on input 1 or 2, depending on a crossfader.

This would allow you to:
  • Quickly switch from melody A to melody B, as two parts of a song
  • Easily do slight variations of a melody
  • Go from your melody to completely random voltages... and back!
  • Crossfade between two different random sources (say, white noise and verhulst) for spectacular random melodies
  • More stuff I haven't thought of


Here's a mockup I did for fun:

Jaypee
dysonant wrote:
Jaypee wrote:
LFO step sequencer like Step LFO plug in by Expert Sleepers.

Hope Eloquencer will do this. And more: Mixing several waveforms to achieve complex waveforms.

I know Control Forge but it's just 1 output, and you can't mix waveforms.


Malekko Voltage Block. 16 Steps of CV, use the glide to smooth. Boom, LFO Step sequencer. In fact and CV sequencer could do something similar.


Yes, I use my ER 101 as a LFO sequencer, but it's not an easy way to do it, even for basic waveforms.
Malekko seems very very nice, and I will probably get one soon.
But still not what I'm looking for.
Nino
anosou wrote:
I've always wanted a probability-based melody crossfader...


could't you manage this quite easily with branches + x?
anosou
Nino wrote:
anosou wrote:
I've always wanted a probability-based melody crossfader...


could't you manage this quite easily with branches + x?


Possibly. Branches + two S&H + something. You'd need to make sure only one of the S&H is sent to the oscillator at a time, depending on which side of Branches triggers, so maybe a switch of some kind. Not well-versed in switches...

Regardless, I prefer a module that's designed for this purpose. Ease-of-use and all that. smile
Daisuk
I always have a lot of unused oscillator/waveform outs in my system (typically I use one or two waves out from an oscillator, leaving a few osc outs open unused).

Idea:

- Quad envelope follower with slew and waveshaper
- Four audio inputs
- One slew knob per input
- One waveshaper per input
- Four CV outputs

Obviously you'd need to use oscillators that are in use somehow (since a static osc out wouldn't do much for the envelope follower) with it.

Make sense? seriously, i just don't get it
Keltie
Voltage control over talent please. If only I could find the damned input jack. very frustrating
Paranormal Patroler
anosou wrote:
I've always wanted a probability-based melody crossfader. Plug in two voltages and a gate. At each gate, it has X% probability to sample the voltage on input 1 or 2, depending on a crossfader.


I haven't tried the Confundo with melodic lines, it could work .. hmmm.....
Maalis
A cassette recorder module.
gimber
A simple 4 HP precision adder that will add a transpose input to each of four other inputs and output each individually.

Inputs: 1, 2, 3, 4, X
Outputs: 1+X, 2+X, 3+X, 4+X
guestt
anosou wrote:
Nino wrote:
anosou wrote:
I've always wanted a probability-based melody crossfader...


could't you manage this quite easily with branches + x?


Possibly. Branches + two S&H + something. You'd need to make sure only one of the S&H is sent to the oscillator at a time, depending on which side of Branches triggers, so maybe a switch of some kind. Not well-versed in switches...

Regardless, I prefer a module that's designed for this purpose. Ease-of-use and all that. smile


I use Knobs for more or less this functionality check it out:

https://www.rabidelephant.com/products/knobs
Bachelard
anosou wrote:
I've always wanted a probability-based melody crossfader. Plug in two voltages and a gate. At each gate, it has X% probability to sample the voltage on input 1 or 2, depending on a crossfader.

This would allow you to:
  • Quickly switch from melody A to melody B, as two parts of a song
  • Easily do slight variations of a melody
  • Go from your melody to completely random voltages... and back!
  • Crossfade between two different random sources (say, white noise and verhulst) for spectacular random melodies
  • More stuff I haven't thought of


Here's a mockup I did for fun:



I think Noise Engineering's Mimetic Sequent is close to that, though not exactly. 3 pattern selection switch, CV recorder into any of those pattern memories, on-board random sequence generator.

As mentioned a while back in this thread, a multi-LFO with attenuators seems like a no-brainer but most LFOs don't have it. I don't mind having a load of attenuators in my system because they're generally super useful, but attenuators/level control in an LFO would make life a lot easier.
anosou
Baddcr wrote:
I use Knobs for more or less this functionality check it out:

https://www.rabidelephant.com/products/knobs


I've looked at that and it's really cool, but missing the probability and "mixing" of two signals.

Bachelard wrote:
anosou wrote:
I've always wanted a probability-based melody crossfader. Plug in two voltages and a gate. At each gate, it has X% probability to sample the voltage on input 1 or 2, depending on a crossfader.

This would allow you to:
  • Quickly switch from melody A to melody B, as two parts of a song
  • Easily do slight variations of a melody
  • Go from your melody to completely random voltages... and back!
  • Crossfade between two different random sources (say, white noise and verhulst) for spectacular random melodies
  • More stuff I haven't thought of


Here's a mockup I did for fun:



I think Noise Engineering's Mimetic Sequent is close to that, though not exactly. 3 pattern selection switch, CV recorder into any of those pattern memories, on-board random sequence generator.

As mentioned a while back in this thread, a multi-LFO with attenuators seems like a no-brainer but most LFOs don't have it. I don't mind having a load of attenuators in my system because they're generally super useful, but attenuators/level control in an LFO would make life a lot easier.


I own a Mimetic Sequent and love it to death. I actually didn't think about the Pattern CV input, which could get me pretty close. Not quite as flexible as what I had in mind (recorded sequences, not two always-running etc.) but still! Good idea.
guestt
anosou wrote:
Baddcr wrote:
I use Knobs for more or less this functionality check it out:

https://www.rabidelephant.com/products/knobs


I've looked at that and it's really cool, but missing the probability and "mixing" of two signals.


It mixes CV signals no problem:

"CV TRANSPOSER

Use the crossfader section to select between two offset settings set by Ch. A and B for an incoming pitch CV to externally or manually control the transposition with the crossfader. With the active switch, you get even more options."

"CROSSFADING CVS

The module originally started out as a way to 'play' your CV signals. Using the crossfader, you can select between two different processing chains in a highly playable way. Try setting FM amounts on each channel, or different transposition amounts, or anything that you'd want to set exactly on the extents but still be able to morph between them. The target and initial set-points are precisely set by channels A and B but you still retain full control between. You can throw in an LFO into XF CV using the fader to 'bypass' the XF CV when needed."

You're right there's no probability in there, but there is a CV input to the crossfader - so a sequencer programmed with your desired CV values, with the same value programmed to multiple steps and then randomised will give you probability i.e. if you have four values say 1,2,3,4 V, and a 16 step sequencer you program 2 steps each to have 1,2,3 V and then set the remaining 10 to have 4V the probability of 4V is naturally higher smile

The results from mixing CV are varied, sometimes it works nicely especially if you throw the slider right from one end to the other, other times it can sound quite strange when placed in-between the two end positions loads of fun to be had!

I know this isn't the one module solution you're looking for, but hope it helps!
anosou
Baddcr wrote:
anosou wrote:
Baddcr wrote:
I use Knobs for more or less this functionality check it out:

https://www.rabidelephant.com/products/knobs


I've looked at that and it's really cool, but missing the probability and "mixing" of two signals.


It mixes CV signals no problem:

"CV TRANSPOSER

Use the crossfader section to select between two offset settings set by Ch. A and B for an incoming pitch CV to externally or manually control the transposition with the crossfader. With the active switch, you get even more options."

"CROSSFADING CVS

The module originally started out as a way to 'play' your CV signals. Using the crossfader, you can select between two different processing chains in a highly playable way. Try setting FM amounts on each channel, or different transposition amounts, or anything that you'd want to set exactly on the extents but still be able to morph between them. The target and initial set-points are precisely set by channels A and B but you still retain full control between. You can throw in an LFO into XF CV using the fader to 'bypass' the XF CV when needed."

You're right there's no probability in there, but there is a CV input to the crossfader - so a sequencer programmed with your desired CV values, with the same value programmed to multiple steps and then randomised will give you probability i.e. if you have four values say 1,2,3,4 V, and a 16 step sequencer you program 2 steps each to have 1,2,3 V and then set the remaining 10 to have 4V the probability of 4V is naturally higher smile

The results from mixing CV are varied, sometimes it works nicely especially if you throw the slider right from one end to the other, other times it can sound quite strange when placed in-between the two end positions loads of fun to be had!

I know this isn't the one module solution you're looking for, but hope it helps!


Cool ideas, appreciate it! Who knows, might pick one up and try smile
Paranormal Patroler
If Knobs wasn't so expensive I'd definitely be interested in giving it a try. I'll see if I can get any results from the Confundo Funkitus with CV, I haven't tried it yet ...

It's a cool idea for live, right now I just switch between CV sources.
exper
Paranormal Patroler wrote:
If Knobs wasn't so expensive I'd definitely be interested in giving it a try. I'll see if I can get any results from the Confundo Funkitus with CV, I haven't tried it yet ...

It's a cool idea for live, right now I just switch between CV sources.


When you add up the individual modules needed to recreate Knobs (2x Manhattan analog cvps, a cv crossfader, something for rectifying) then the price is very good imo. Plus it's built like TANK. That gets thrown around a lot but in this case, it's insanely solid and feels great. smile
PlanetZaxxon
I'd like to see more stereo effect or filter unit options in no more than 6hp in size.
Nino
why? like what?
what's the hassle with hp?
Bob Borries


How about a filter module that uses that new SSM (SSI2144-2017) chip everyone is talking about?

The SSI2144 Filter chip is an improved reissue of the vintage SSM2044 chip.

The "Solid State Micro Technology for Music" SSM2044 is a 4-pole filter on a chip, used in classic synths like E-Mu Drumulater, E-mu Emulator 1 & 2, Late Fairlight CMI, Korg Mono/Poly, Korg Polysix, Octave Plateau Voyetra Eight, PPG 2.2, Sequential Circuits Prophet-5 rev 1 & 2, and others. Many consider the SSM2044 to be the best-sounding VCF chip ever created.
tauburn
My module idea is called DH Gate. You input a trigger to the checkout input and receive a trigger at the delivery output. The input trigger is divided by a random generator. You never know when it's going to come or if it ever is going to. There's also the refund trigger input which whenever is struck, outputs a trigger 3-5 triggers less than the initial input to simulate the bank's processing time. It could also potentially output an envelope or random cv on a rare chance simulating when you aren't shipped the correct item. Sometimes, the LED blinks even though no trigger is outputted to simulate when you are given a fake item instead of what you purchased.
Paranormal Patroler
exper wrote:
Paranormal Patroler wrote:
If Knobs wasn't so expensive I'd definitely be interested in giving it a try. I'll see if I can get any results from the Confundo Funkitus with CV, I haven't tried it yet ...

It's a cool idea for live, right now I just switch between CV sources.


When you add up the individual modules needed to recreate Knobs (2x Manhattan analog cvps, a cv crossfader, something for rectifying) then the price is very good imo. Plus it's built like TANK. That gets thrown around a lot but in this case, it's insanely solid and feels great. smile


Absolutely no disagreement there, just out of my budget for what it offers.
Shledge
A module that is a complete general purpose analogue computer, allowing you to do stuff like patching it up to create lorenz attractors etc. Would be useful as a good CV source too. Think of a complete Comdyna, but in eurorack format. Maths comes close, but at the moment there isn't really a module that fully ticks this box.

Another one is a module that would allow many CV inputs/outputs to be converted to digital and then transmitted wirelessly or online. It could also be programmed to generate CV on it's own and either transmit that too or output it. Imagine sending CV to a modular at the other side of the room, or sending/receiving CV from modulars across the internet - allowing you to jam with friends, test modules before buying etc.
Shledge
Few more:

- Modules that interface with HOTAs flight sticks
- Modules that have specific jacks for stereo cables, to allow the transmission of digital on one channel, and analogue on the other. Can be used for outputting just analogue or digital if a mono cable is used. Imagine it though - digital side of the output can send data between modules to allow anything from advanced controls to digital polyphony
- Modules that allow drawings to be made on an oscilloscope/custom X/Y CV source
Shledge
Here is a quick draft on the general analogue computer module I was talking about. It's loosely based on the Comdyna analogue computers, which are generally modular friendly to begin with due to their +/-10v output. Pots can be used as offsets or attenuators, and has X/Y outputs in BNC and 3.5mm jacks for oscilloscopes and CV/audio out.

Bob Borries
EDIT: Something great is coming soon

chess1
An expanded Ornament and Crime that unpacked the menu options as dials, sliders and more cv inputs. And more modules with cross faders PLEASE!!
Xtheunknown
WMD's standalone PLL. Apparently, the design exists at least conceptually, but it never made it into production.
Homepage Englisch
mdoudoroff wrote:
Something else I’ve been pondering: we’ve got a lot of sequencers designed principally for melody sequencing—deliberate or random—and that’s all well and good, but much of the time, there’s nothing all that inherently interesting about creating modular melodies: they tend to be relatively rudimentary structures that get interesting only with how you employ them.

Meanwhile, it seems to me that one of the most difficult things to do in modular sequencing is to move from one melodic pattern to another or back. Just achieving a basic ABA “song structure” can require a lot of patching and/or laboriously setting up presets in a high-end sequencer.

Hypothetically, I’d be interested in a module vaguely similar to the Zularic Repetitor, that you clock and it spits out multiple, complementary, parallel sequences—under cv selection—from a large built-in database of short, canned sequences (melodies and “bass lines”, not random). Ideally, selection changes would only take place when the current sequence ends, and the database of sequences would be prepared in a fashion that the sequences tend to work well together. Like the Zularic Repetitor, you could select any combination of sequences and change them up at any time, or revert, and you get a bunch of usable cv to employ however you like.


This is an excellent point, and my idea is this: a step sequencer that can not only load/save "presets", but also "combis" or "performances" - a group of 12 different sequencer presets. Add a CV input that is a voltage detector and voila, you have different sequences mapped for each key of your keyboard (or some other offset voltage source).
RLK
I would love to see a more compact matrix module.
Something like what I'm depicting below.

It seems pretty doable.

Daisuk
Arrrgh. I wish there was an auto-tune module you could just patch all your oscillators through, press one big fat button on it saying "auto tune to ..." and you could just tune all the damn oscillators to a C or something. I'm too lazy to tune all my oscillators before starting a patch, and then some of them drift off, or I accidentally hit a knob while patching, and more often than not shit sounds off by just a little bit mid-patch and ruins the fun. Goddamnit! One of the few draws of software, shit just being in goddamn tune. d'oh! angry w00t
Jaypee
Daisuk wrote:
Arrrgh. I wish there was an auto-tune module you could just patch all your oscillators through, press one big fat button on it saying "auto tune to ..." and you could just tune all the damn oscillators to a C or something. I'm too lazy to tune all my oscillators before starting a patch, and then some of them drift off, or I accidentally hit a knob while patching, and more often than not shit sounds off by just a little bit mid-patch and ruins the fun. Goddamnit! One of the few draws of software, shit just being in goddamn tune. d'oh! angry w00t



https://www.schneidersladen.de/en/endorphin-es-autopilot.html
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ianbortolotti
anosou wrote:
Nino wrote:
anosou wrote:
I've always wanted a probability-based melody crossfader...


could't you manage this quite easily with branches + x?


Possibly. Branches + two S&H + something. You'd need to make sure only one of the S&H is sent to the oscillator at a time, depending on which side of Branches triggers, so maybe a switch of some kind. Not well-versed in switches...

Regardless, I prefer a module that's designed for this purpose. Ease-of-use and all that. smile


I've been thinking about this... What about Branches + S.P.O. (or Maths) + a VC Switch?

You'd mult the sequencer gates to Branches, mix both outs with the S.P.O. inverting or attenuating one of the Branches outs. The switch would receive the different sequences on its inputs and the mixed output of the S.P.O. on the Select input.

You'd have to tweak the amount of attenuation/inversion on the S.P.O. to match it with the Selector input of the Switch.

I don't have neither Branches or a Switch to test this out, though. I'm just exercising my imagination. spinning

edit: Maybe you don't even need the mixer, just put one of the outs from Branches into the Switch selector and adjust it so that when there is no gate from Branches it stays on the first sequence and when the gate is on it switches to the second sequence.
Dcramer
Frames or the A-152 can both be used to patch up a switch (Frames will also do crossfade) that will switch on each melody note; simply patch a clocked Random voltage into the CV’d step in and patch your two or more CV for pitch in to the switch. thumbs up
Daisuk
Jaypee wrote:
Daisuk wrote:
Arrrgh. I wish there was an auto-tune module you could just patch all your oscillators through, press one big fat button on it saying "auto tune to ..." and you could just tune all the damn oscillators to a C or something. I'm too lazy to tune all my oscillators before starting a patch, and then some of them drift off, or I accidentally hit a knob while patching, and more often than not shit sounds off by just a little bit mid-patch and ruins the fun. Goddamnit! One of the few draws of software, shit just being in goddamn tune. d'oh! angry w00t



https://www.schneidersladen.de/en/endorphin-es-autopilot.html
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woah

I haven't seen this before! Excellent! Thanks! Mr. Green SlayerBadger!
wm.wragg
anosou wrote:
I've always wanted a probability-based melody crossfader. Plug in two voltages and a gate. At each gate, it has X% probability to sample the voltage on input 1 or 2, depending on a crossfader.

This would allow you to:
  • Quickly switch from melody A to melody B, as two parts of a song
  • Easily do slight variations of a melody
  • Go from your melody to completely random voltages... and back!
  • Crossfade between two different random sources (say, white noise and verhulst) for spectacular random melodies
  • More stuff I haven't thought of


Here's a mockup I did for fun:



I think this might do the job for you:



https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/596258

It's a Mutable Instruments Branches, Doepfer A-180-1 Multiple, Doepfer A-148 Dual S&H, Doepfer A-132-1 Dual Linear VCA, Doepfer A-138u Dual Micro Mixer (2x3)

The patch goes:

Trigger in -> Branches, S&H sources -> top and bottom sig ins of the A-148, Branches outs -> the top and bottom parts of the A-180-1, A-180-1 -> top and bottom trigger ins of the A-148 and CVs of the A-132-1, A-148 sig outs -> top and bottom inputs of the A-132-1, A-132-1 outputs mixed in the A-138u, A-138u out to 1v/oct in of VCO.

The outs of Branches drive both the S&Hs as well as the VCAs, which are mixed, but only one will ever be active at a time. Use the branches P knob to probabilty crossfade bewteen the two S&H sources.
wm.wragg
You can of course simplify the above patch by using stacking cables, a combined VCA mixer, and mixing the S&H sources rather than the outputs:



This just uses a Mutable Instruments Branches, Make Noise Moddemix, and a Mutable Instruments Kinks.
onre
Something with, say, four or six or eight in-out pairs - channels, so to say - and a single clock in. For every channel there's a button. If the channel is muted, button is red, if not, button is green. When you push the button, button goes yellow and channel is muted or unmuted on next clock input.

(I'm actually waiting for someone to come and tell that this is available and only )
Daisuk
onre wrote:
Something with, say, four or six or eight in-out pairs - channels, so to say - and a single clock in. For every channel there's a button. If the channel is muted, button is red, if not, button is green. When you push the button, button goes yellow and channel is muted or unmuted on next clock input.

(I'm actually waiting for someone to come and tell that this is available and only )


I'm trying to wrap my head around what you're saying here, but having a hard time doing so. How do you mute a channel? And how do you turn it on? And what does yellow mean (will it when yellow go either on or off on the next clock pulse?)? Sounds a bit like you're describing a flip flop, but not sure.

This module has four channels. Send a gate to a channel and it's ON, and stays on until you send it another gate, then it's OFF. And so on.

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/metatronic-mods-quad-sequential-switch

This might be of interested to you as well:
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/itijik-toggle
mgallagher641
I would like...deep breath...

A four voice Prophet VS oscillator module with all the VS waves in, and a joystick mixer (like Intellijel's planar but for all four voices - so it would probably need to be built in). The clincher would be that, for me, I'd want it to replicate the VS's 12 bit waveforms complete with fizzy aliasing, and its eccentric cost-cutting way of mixing the waves with sample and hold multiplexer chips rather than VCAs. This mucks up the sound in a way that is really distinctive.

It should have a 4 voice summed output plus an out for each voice, i.e. each set of four waveforms.

Quite how the vector position would be modulated I'm not sure. Might need a mix envelope function built in as well.

Why only four voices? I find the eight voices of my VS is usually more than I need, and would cost a lot more and possibly be bigger.

Why this module? Because I love my VS, but the editing is fiddly - one knob per function would transform it - and I think there are nicer sounding filters out there, plus the envelopes are a faff with the multiple stages, the LFOs can't be set to free run, and the mod matrix is limited.

The best thing about the synth is the OSC and vector mixing section. Imagine being able to put that - even just paraphonically - through, say, a Roland-style OTA, SSM or multimode filter, or a couple of filters in series, with all the knobs there to tweak, and have parameters modulated with easier-to-use envelopes (I'd just have two ADSRs), free running LFOs patched to whatever you want...

The other thing is, the CEM 5530 sample and hold chips in the VS are known to die, and are very hard to get hold of, so those of us who own a VS live in fear. And Dave Smith has yet to release a modern equivalent. It would be good for the world to have a non-obsolete, modern, warranty-repairable way of producing that classic VS sound without resorting to soft synth copies.
chess1
8x8 mixer grid that allows for touch control of multiple points and movement (like the LP1 but with 16 i/o). So a touch interface recorder that is a modulation/mixer matrix that allows for multiple streams (sequences) of touch control.
Daisuk
chess1 wrote:
8x8 mixer grid that allows for touch control of multiple points and movement (like the LP1 but with 16 i/o). So a touch interface recorder that is a modulation/mixer matrix that allows for multiple streams (sequences) of touch control.


Hehe, that's a pretty awesome idea. Mr. Green
StrangeWorldofSynths
1. A large buchla style matrix mixer 4x8 or 5x10.
2. multitrack recorder
Daisuk
StrangeWorldofSynths wrote:
1. A large buchla style matrix mixer 4x8 or 5x10.
2. multitrack recorder


https://www.modulargrid.net/e/sssr-labs-sm010-matrixarchate
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/1010-music-bitbox
Shledge
Bitbox can't record more than one source at once.
onre
Daisuk wrote:
onre wrote:
Something with, say, four or six or eight in-out pairs - channels, so to say - and a single clock in. For every channel there's a button. If the channel is muted, button is red, if not, button is green. When you push the button, button goes yellow and channel is muted or unmuted on next clock input.

(I'm actually waiting for someone to come and tell that this is available and only )


I'm trying to wrap my head around what you're saying here, but having a hard time doing so. How do you mute a channel? And how do you turn it on? And what does yellow mean (will it when yellow go either on or off on the next clock pulse?)? Sounds a bit like you're describing a flip flop, but not sure.

This module has four channels. Send a gate to a channel and it's ON, and stays on until you send it another gate, then it's OFF. And so on.

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/metatronic-mods-quad-sequential-switch

This might be of interested to you as well:
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/itijik-toggle

Nope. Add VCAs and button logic and you'd be close. What I'm after is basically a "tempo-synced bunch of channel mutes". Think of it like this - you have a complex patch with multiple signal paths that all end up on a mixer. Put this module just before mixer and route all the paths through it. Then connect the module's clock in to sequencer's position 1 out. Then, while performing, you can use the buttons to bring parts of the patch in and out - in sync with tempo.
os
StrangeWorldofSynths wrote:
1. A large buchla style matrix mixer 4x8 or 5x10.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ben78vLFzAa/
williamjturkel
Something like NLC Triple Sloths that spits out slow chaotic gates on three time scales. The same form factor and 2-knob, 2-input, 11-output interface would be awesome.
chess1
A module that can sample an audio stream and from that create a quanitzed cv source that will tune a vco to sound "exactly" like the sample.
Jaypee
chess1 wrote:
A module that can sample an audio stream and from that create a quanitzed cv source that will tune a vco to sound "exactly" like the sample.


https://www.modulargrid.net/e/analogue-systems-rs-35 ?
big job head
A 4x4 matrix where each in/out row is actually a CV/gate pair.
With one button you can select where to route this cv/gate and if it was already routed somewhere else on the matrix, this latter connection should be deactivated automatically.
an expander could add cv control over routing love
ok it's a bit like a wmd ssm ++++
dooj88
williamjturkel wrote:
Something like NLC Triple Sloths that spits out slow chaotic gates on three time scales. The same form factor and 2-knob, 2-input, 11-output interface would be awesome.


run sloths through a ladik derivator and you've got it
chess1
Jaypee What I have in mind is a quantizer that would learn the notes and timbre of the input and then try to tune and play a VCO to match it. Kinda like the recent developments of the Google AI machine learning stuff.
luchog
What I would like to see that I haven't, although I've seen a few modules that were close, is a simple utility analog VCLFO, with two selectable ranges; independent sine, phase-shifted sine, triangle, saw, ramp, and square/pulse wave outputs; with a range of about 30m to 100hz; phase selector for sine; sync input; and CV control with attenuation over frequency, PWM, and sine phase; and gate control over range. Ideally within 12HP or less.
Jaypee
chess1 wrote:
Jaypee What I have in mind is a quantizer that would learn the notes and timbre of the input and then try to tune and play a VCO to match it. Kinda like the recent developments of the Google AI machine learning stuff.

"learn the note" = audio to pitch/CV. Many modules can do it.
"Timbre". hmm. hmmm..... not sure what you mean.
dooj88
Jaypee wrote:
chess1 wrote:
Jaypee What I have in mind is a quantizer that would learn the notes and timbre of the input and then try to tune and play a VCO to match it. Kinda like the recent developments of the Google AI machine learning stuff.

"learn the note" = audio to pitch/CV. Many modules can do it.
"Timbre". hmm. hmmm..... not sure what you mean.


sounds like they meant it mimics the waveform going into it by some kind of AI sampling/analysis
desolationjones
onre

The upcoming LPZW Schleußig does everything you are looking for with tempo-synced mutes.
redonyellow
Dual complex oscillator with +-2v stepped toggle pitch shift for each oscillator.
Koryo
A CV sampler, looper.

Basically a DC coupled 1010music - Bitbox.

Just call it a Cvbox.
R.U.Nuts
redonyellow wrote:
Dual complex oscillator with +-2v stepped toggle pitch shift for each oscillator.


Well, yeah. The lack of octave switches in euro VCOs is pretty annoying. No matter if they're complex or not. Luckily there's the Doepfer A-185-2.
Koryo
R.U.Nuts wrote:
The lack of octave switches in euro VCOs is pretty annoying.


I use this:
https://seismic.industries/pamt/

mskala
dooj88 wrote:
Jaypee wrote:
learn the note" = audio to pitch/CV. Many modules can do it.
"Timbre". hmm. :hmm: not sure what you mean.


sounds like they meant it mimics the waveform going into it by some kind of AI sampling/analysis


If the module is meant to do the playback itself, okay, no big deal, a granular synth would work, and it's possible to build one a bit smarter than current granular synths to do things like recognize the rhythm and build a Markov chain on pitches to imitate melodies.

But the request to "tune a VCO" makes it sound to me like the idea is for the learning module to somehow control a separate VCO to make the separate VCO imitate an input sound... and that's going to be difficult to say the least, because there are many sounds a standard VCO simply cannot produce.

And just remember: you can tune a VCO, but you can't tuna fish.
os
R.U.Nuts wrote:
Well, yeah. The lack of octave switches in euro VCOs is pretty annoying. No matter if they're complex or not. Luckily there's the Doepfer A-185-2.

disting Precision Adder mode was created for just this reason.

The disting VCOs also have octave switches.

I'll be quiet now.
calvinsomething
Why can't there be an analogue sequencer with sliders for pitch, secondary CV (or an option for 2 accent levels that can be set on the side with two knobs and have a button to turn on accent 1 or 2 per step), per step slew (with control), attenuation knob for the slider range, and aux in's per step if that makes it more popular, but keeping the size down while making it playable is key.

The DU-Seq is close to this, but does not have 2 CVs and does not have attenuation for the CV range.
R.U.Nuts
A function/AD envelope generator with a switch that decides how the function is retriggered while running:

1. completely ignores triggers while the function is running (Doepfer A-171-2 style)
2. only rettiggers during fall-stage (Maths style)
3. always retriggers (hard-synced VCO/LFO style)

... And attenuvertors for rise- and fall CV inputs!
Sandrine
chess1 wrote:
A module that can sample an audio stream and from that create a quanitzed cv source that will tune a vco to sound "exactly" like the sample.


Well you'd need not only VCO frequency control (easy) but also a filter control or two (rings?), noise control (random), amplitude follower, and automatic waveform identification/selection.

Probably a voice recognition algorithm would suffice to extrapolate all of that as most usable ranges fall within the voice & vowel ranges.
Sort of like a reverse vocoder, but most importantly one that has an internal tracking comb filter that quickly finds a null and presents this information inversely to control elements of a real filter.

The TC Helicon Talkbox might be the thing to spring off from to experiment with. It takes vocal patterns & decodes them, converts it into a parametric filter chain to shape a guitar into vocal patterns. This is done digitally of course smile

A *very* interesting thought though isn't it?
lobra
Dedicated Attenuverter module to use for attenuverters hihi
bradpickapiper
R.U.Nuts wrote:
A function/AD envelope generator with a switch that decides how the function is retriggered while running:

1. completely ignores triggers while the function is running (Doepfer A-171-2 style)
2. only rettiggers during fall-stage (Maths style)
3. always retriggers (hard-synced VCO/LFO style)

... And attenuvertors for rise- and fall CV inputs!


+1 smile
nso_music
an actually compact (6-8hp) random module with no nonsense, just 6+ outputs of smooth or stepped random CV, with a clock input to control rate. built-in little attenuverters on each output and you have my dream module.
lobra
bradpickapiper wrote:
R.U.Nuts wrote:
A function/AD envelope generator with a switch that decides how the function is retriggered while running:

1. completely ignores triggers while the function is running (Doepfer A-171-2 style)
2. only rettiggers during fall-stage (Maths style)
3. always retriggers (hard-synced VCO/LFO style)

... And attenuvertors for rise- and fall CV inputs!


+1 smile


great ideassssss
FatRocky
eurorack modules designed to serve as interface to control several aspects of classic Analogue Synthesizer (something like the english tear) but more complex and requiring modification in the synthesizer

for example

an euro version of the OP-8 (DCB) interface to the Juno 60

an euro module to trigger all sounds in the TR606

something for the EDP WASP? etc ,, you say it
Eurtrude
Koryo wrote:
A CV sampler, looper.

Basically a DC coupled 1010music - Bitbox.

Just call it a Cvbox.


It's coming and it's called Hermod smile

http://squarp.net/hermod (and it can do a lot more !)
jeboo
hihi



Arders Bergdahl
The Gibson/oberhiem Exchoplex looprer.. it would be KILLER in a modular format..
ethnotronics
A 6HP stereo mixer. Just like two Malekko MIX4, next to each other but with one column of pots controlling volume and the other controlling pan.
jsco
a multi-pendulum oscillator with CV influence.

specifically, i want an LFO that can *loosely* sync to an incoming clock or waveform, with a variable degree of looseness. multi-pendulum systems are the best idea i know of along these lines. in the simplest case, picture an input CV being mapped to the horizontal offset of the central (fixed) pivot of the pendulum. if you wiggle it side to side, the pendulum will either oscillate in time, or bounce around chaotically, or a bit of both, depending on details like segment length, mass, rigidity, etc. changing either the input waveform or the pendulum parameters would change the behavior of the system.

possible inputs (general):
- number of segments
- number of dimensions (2D, 3D, etc)
- target steady state total system energy, potential+kinetic
- "kick": short term adjustment to system energy (e.g. in response to a trigger signal)
- system energy rise/fall rates (how quickly to respond to kick and return to steady state)
- "air resistance"
- base pivot point position (X, Y, etc)
- global time dilation factor (1v/oct)
possible inputs (for each pendulum segment):
- angle relative to parent component (sum CV input with simulation state)
- angular speed (sum CV input with simulation state)
- joint friction
- segment length
- segment rigidity (spring constant, damping factor)
- far endpoint mass
possible outputs (for each pendulum segment):
- angle relative to parent component
- absolute angle
- angular speed
- far endpoint position (X, Y, etc.) relative to near endpoint
- absolute far endpoint position
- angles could be mapped to position in a wavetable (sine/saw/etc)

obviously this would not all fit on a panel. the challenge would be limiting the interface enough to be usable but still retain some of the crazy possibilities of a system like this.

this would also fit nicely in something like o_c.
chess1
Sandrine wrote:
chess1 wrote:
A module that can sample an audio stream and from that create a quanitzed cv source that will tune a vco to sound "exactly" like the sample.


Well you'd need not only VCO frequency control (easy) but also a filter control or two (rings?), noise control (random), amplitude follower, and automatic waveform identification/selection.

Probably a voice recognition algorithm would suffice to extrapolate all of that as most usable ranges fall within the voice & vowel ranges.
Sort of like a reverse vocoder, but most importantly one that has an internal tracking comb filter that quickly finds a null and presents this information inversely to control elements of a real filter.

The TC Helicon Talkbox might be the thing to spring off from to experiment with. It takes vocal patterns & decodes them, converts it into a parametric filter chain to shape a guitar into vocal patterns. This is done digitally of course smile

A *very* interesting thought though isn't it?




Sandreams

Rockin' Banana!
starthief
A relatively compact manual offset generator.

4-6 channels, each with an input, an offset knob or slider, a 3-way toggle switch, a momentary button, and an output. There's also an overall "Select" output and a "Gate" output.

When the toggle switches are fully up, the dialed-in offset is added to the input. When in the center, the input is passed to the output with no offset. When down, the output is muted.

Pressing a button temporarily passes through the input+offset to the output regardless of switch position. It also routes its associated input+offset to the "Select" output and sets the "Gate" output high.

So it's a fixed CV source, a manual gate source, an offset module, a mini keyboard and a manual 4-1 selector switch. (There might be room for a "Mix" output to make it a mixer too, or gate or CV inputs for switching etc.)
Shledge
Quote:
A relatively compact manual offset generator.


https://www.modulargrid.net/e/livestock-electronics-felix

6 offset outputs, also acts as a buffered multiple. Attenuverters too!
johnbaptistephilouza
tauburn wrote:
My module idea is called DH Gate. You input a trigger to the checkout input and receive a trigger at the delivery output. The input trigger is divided by a random generator. You never know when it's going to come or if it ever is going to. There's also the refund trigger input which whenever is struck, outputs a trigger 3-5 triggers less than the initial input to simulate the bank's processing time. It could also potentially output an envelope or random cv on a rare chance simulating when you aren't shipped the correct item. Sometimes, the LED blinks even though no trigger is outputted to simulate when you are given a fake item instead of what you purchased.


as a fan of the actual DHGate, I am way into this and would buy it immediately
suicidelane
starthief wrote:
A relatively compact manual offset generator.

4-6 channels, each with an input, an offset knob or slider, a 3-way toggle switch, a momentary button, and an output. There's also an overall "Select" output and a "Gate" output.

When the toggle switches are fully up, the dialed-in offset is added to the input. When in the center, the input is passed to the output with no offset. When down, the output is muted.

Pressing a button temporarily passes through the input+offset to the output regardless of switch position. It also routes its associated input+offset to the "Select" output and sets the "Gate" output high.

So it's a fixed CV source, a manual gate source, an offset module, a mini keyboard and a manual 4-1 selector switch. (There might be room for a "Mix" output to make it a mixer too, or gate or CV inputs for switching etc.)


Meng Qi Lines will somewhat get you there.
noisewreck
ethnotronics wrote:
A 6HP stereo mixer. Just like two Malekko MIX4, next to each other but with one column of pots controlling volume and the other controlling pan.


Check out the Happy Nerding mixers. They have at least two 6HP stereo mixers.
Jaypee
A trigger sequencer. Ideally 16 steps with 4 tracks with 4 clock inputs.

Basically something like Deeper 157 with a functional fully developed softwares. http://www.doepfer.de/a157.htm
dooj88
Jaypee wrote:
A trigger sequencer. Ideally 16 steps with 4 tracks with 4 clock inputs.

Basically something like Deeper 157 with a functional fully developed softwares. http://www.doepfer.de/a157.htm


stillson hammer can get you most of the way there, though you only get clock divisions for each track.
chess1
Introducing the Korg Facehugger: a cv modulation to midi cc interface for the Korg Volca Series.

KORG SAMPLE FACEHUGGER "Ripply"

cv inputs for:

LEVEL *1
PAN *1
SAMPLE START POINT *1
SAMPLE LENGTH *1
HI CUT *1
SPEED *1
PITCH EG INT *1
PITCH EG ATTACK *1
PITCH EG DECAY *1
AMP EG ATTACK *1
AMP EG DECAY

As well as channel 16 Channel Gate inputs.


R.U.Nuts
A stored voltages expander for the Makenoise Tempi. Imagine having six channels of stored voltages that can be set and saved per state. so each time you change Tempi's state manually, with CV or triggered it will also send out a different set of stored voltages. For example one of these voltages would go into the rate input of your master clock, another into the FM index of DPO, a third into the delay time CV input of your delay and another into the decay time CV input of an envelope. -You get the picture.

Additionally you could enable shift/mod to any of the CV channels as with the clock channels. So each time a trigger hits the mod input on the main module the shift enabled voltages get swapped and thus creating an analog shift register style sequencer.

Imagine having some CV channels mod enabled and some not. Those which are not can serve as preset voltages that change some parameter each time a new state is selected while the mod enabled ones serve as some kind of sequencer that changes it's sequence each time the state changes.
RaB
Perceived Loudness Processor

A processor that attenuates a signal when its perceived loudness (as opposed to technical voltage level) rises. This would take care of run-away feedbacks and loud resonances sticking out in complex modulations. Note that this cannot be done with a simple compressor which only cares for level (be it with some EQ bias) but is otherwise ignorant of perceived loudness, which in my experience has to do with with spectral energy distribution. Anyone know about the feedback destroyer (?) outboard gear?

One case where I frequently wish for it is: Starting from a series of triggers and speeding that up into audio range the preceived loudness rises immensely. I would like a sense of even loudness over the transistion and cannot do it manually.
dooj88
went back to my ol lusty synt that i can't afford.. jomox synsyn

have the RCOs (sample based wavetable waveforms with selectable start and end points) in euro format would be so killer. the sunsyn was able to FM them against each other as well. we've got to have the processing power now to make this possible!

complex RCO wavetable module nanners nanners Jürgen?!? do you lurk here? i suppose shapeshifter does something similar, but the sounds in this video are unlike anything i've gotten from the SS.

luchog
A 64-step WYSIWYG analog step sequencer that allows up to 4 separate tracks -- 1x64, 2x32, or 4x16 -- and the ability to do multi-layer fills (VC step between tracks).

The Megacity already does a simpler version of this, 64 steps that can be run as 2x32, with the ability to use the second track as a fill activated by a trigger voltage. Pretty much just need to take that sequencer and break it down an additional level, and it would be just about perfect. Maybe add a built-in microtonal quantizer as well.

Actually, I'd modify it just slightly beyond that as well, instead of a single step/jump switch per step, I'd update that to a three-position step/jump/reset, so it can be reset back to the beginning from any point.
IR
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/modules/browser/vendor:175

I don't think they really exist, besides being listed on that site.
mskala
luchog wrote:
A 64-step WYSIWYG analog step sequencer that allows up to 4 separate tracks -- 1x64, 2x32, or 4x16 -- and the ability to do multi-layer fills (VC step between tracks).


How would you define "analog" in this context?
Daisuk
So, was in the shower thinking about how awesome it would be to have individual outputs per tap on the Magneto (especially in the fifth/shift mode).

So something that:

- samples incoming signal
- has say 4/5 different outputs, where you can choose say a chord or a musical interval for the various outputs that are pitch shifted accordingly

That's about it. It would be sweet to then take those outputs and route into the system for further processing.

Does anything like this already exist? Pitch shifter with multiple "musical intervals" outputs? lol hmmm.....

Maybe this one?
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/schlappi-engineering-harmonic-pllaser
nios
A module dedicated to clean up / cancel out noise in a system, ideally with several input/outputs to mix and clean up several modules at once.

I suppose it's overall an EQ'ing type job, and I've heard plenty about various solutions for mitigating noise in both software/hardware outside eurorack, but I don't recall there being a module out there dedicated to clean up noisy parts of a system - even when power is way more than adequate and its supply carefully managed, high quality bus boards used etc, I find that some modules are just going to be inherently noisy and either inject it into the system where it's audible elsewhere from certain vulnerable modules, or otherwise you can hear it from its outs.

Also, a totally unrelated wishlist item, but I'd really want a Synton Syrinx / Fenix filter in the format, or at least approximate recreations functionally replacing the unobtanium chips. This is fun!
Daisuk
nios wrote:
A module dedicated to clean up / cancel out noise in a system, ideally with several input/outputs to mix and clean up several modules at once.

I suppose it's overall an EQ'ing type job, and I've heard plenty about various solutions for mitigating noise in both software/hardware outside eurorack, but I don't recall there being a module out there dedicated to clean up noisy parts of a system - even when power is way more than adequate and its supply carefully managed, high quality bus boards used etc, I find that some modules are just going to be inherently noisy and either inject it into the system where it's audible elsewhere from certain vulnerable modules, or otherwise you can hear it from its outs.

Also, a totally unrelated wishlist item, but I'd really want a Synton Syrinx / Fenix filter in the format, or at least approximate recreations functionally replacing the unobtanium chips. This is fun!


Have you seen the Worng Sound Stage? hihi

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=209577
nios
Quote:
Have you seen the Worng Sound Stage?


Yeah, it's quite neat, but not really what I meant. Sound Stage is more of a mixing / psuedo-mastering-like unit rather than something specifically anti-noise, whether that be in the form of say bountiful controls over high khz EQ or active noise control/cancellation. Sometimes headroom is irrelevant if a module late in a stage is just noisy and that output goes along for the ride.
robotfunk
A hardware version of Reason's Alligator. Pretty please.
JES
Daisuk wrote:
nios wrote:
A module dedicated to clean up / cancel out noise in a system, ideally with several input/outputs to mix and clean up several modules at once.

I suppose it's overall an EQ'ing type job, and I've heard plenty about various solutions for mitigating noise in both software/hardware outside eurorack, but I don't recall there being a module out there dedicated to clean up noisy parts of a system - even when power is way more than adequate and its supply carefully managed, high quality bus boards used etc, I find that some modules are just going to be inherently noisy and either inject it into the system where it's audible elsewhere from certain vulnerable modules, or otherwise you can hear it from its outs.

Also, a totally unrelated wishlist item, but I'd really want a Synton Syrinx / Fenix filter in the format, or at least approximate recreations functionally replacing the unobtanium chips. This is fun!


Have you seen the Worng Sound Stage? hihi

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=209577


Also the Joranalogue T2 did wonders for me.
Daisuk
robotfunk wrote:
A hardware version of Reason's Alligator. Pretty please.


Obviously not entirely the same thing, but have you seen 1010 Music's FXbox? It's pretty awesome. smile
robotfunk
Wouldn't that be limited to two bands rather than the three in Alligator? I'm not sure I'd like that UI for this purpose either.

With 3 gate inputs you could do the sequencing externally to keep it relatively simple. If I can get my hands on an Axoloti I'll see what I can kludge up.
R.U.Nuts
A small voltage controlled quad panning module. Four inputs, stereo output and pan CV inputs for each of the input channel. Just because I'd like to run the four outputs of my Eowave Fluctuations Magnetiques through this for spectral panning. A macro control would also be cool so you could control the panning of all channels with one knob/CV. Basically Mutable Instruments Frames in stereo...
Aelitafrommars
A live performance ADSR. it'd work like this:

2 channels of ADSR.
-1 v/o input, with a log/lin/exp bending knob. 12 o'clock is linear.
-This is routed to a crossfader between the two channels.
-(Indivudual outs of the two ADSR:s as a bonus / for separate use).

This way you play the lowest note, set the left channel ADSR, play the highest intended note, set the right channel ADSR, and with a slight adjustment to the crossfade linearity knob get the exact pitch to instrument response you want.

All envelope steps have cv controllable, attenuverted inputs. D and R are normalled. CV over channel 1 is normalled to channel 2. All normalling is pre-attenuversion.

Yes, you could kind of sort of get this behaviour with 2 vc-adsrs and an x-fade module - that is not the point. Getting it all in one module cements its specific use and can do so in less space and fewer cables to patch, which is what i'd want for a lean performance rig.


============

Yet another low pass filter (bp is welcome too), but where
-you have one (or a few mixed) shared cv input for cutoff and resonance, but with an individual attenuverter for each parameter.
-Small, lean, musically ready to go.
-Focused on that you usually want to turn down resonance as you open up the cutoff either way.
-The usual cutoff and resonance knobs double act as relative offsets to the incoming cv, so you don't really need offset knobs beside the attenuverters.
Shledge
Wouldn't a normal VC ADSR do the same job?
Aelitafrommars
Yeah, i believe you can achieve similar results in many cases, but not quite. You could also feed a vc-adsr CV:s from addac306 to simplify the handling, going this route.

the interfacing is decidedly different. You set two presets you're happy with quickly, and mix them with tracking, instead of wiggling the amount of vc here and there to achieve a compromise. You're also more readily free to change the specific characteristics of the envelope that you'd be with a normal vc adsr.

The x-fade linearity bend is a comfortable way to skew the response just a little in one direction or the other (not the same as an offset).

You can use either or both channels separately for something you don't want tracked in addition to the primary goal. Or you can use the xfade to morph or switch between two wildly different pre-set envelopes if you're not interested in tracking/natural response. Or, with another x-mixer in the system, you can create two distinct blends from the same two channels.

the mix is, in my thinking, mostly intended for keyboard tracking, and the vc over discrete steps for separate modulation like velocity. But i suppose you could switch it around to have two presets for extremes of velocity and have tracking affect individual cv components instead, depending on what's your preference/aim.



But.. you could skip all the cv ins over individual time/level segments for a simpler module and keep two or so attenuverted ins to the crossfade block.

In this case/version, for a natural-reminiscent instrument patch, keyboard tracking would typically affect the x-mixer block positive, and velocity affect the cv mixer negatively, but a lot less so.
Shledge
I see what you mean now.

Personally I'd just pair a VC ADSR with a module like Frames - would allow me to have fine control the behaviour at different points of the 1v/oct scale and would work with other modules too. Would even allow me to introduce modulation from other sources at various points too eg. if I go to the higher notes.
bollyhood
-Envelope with choke function.

-Tracking generator (Oberheim Matrix) waveshaper/folder for CV. But Im sure the same concept would be fun with audio. I guess Frames is similiar but we dont have any version of the fun basic and raw Oberheim concept as far as I know?
Aelitafrommars
Oh yeah, frames would be very powerful in that context. Sounds great in a studio environment!

In my specific case, i want to consolidate a live/jam rig into 107 hp:s / one row, possibly sometimes with a lunchbox or two on the side.

Assume a 8hp module for the vc-adsr. frames is 18hp. so that would eat 24% of the available space. addac306 is less flexible than frames, but still a nice direct performance module. 16hp = 15% of the available space. This is getting into the acceptable terroritory, i think. Maybe there's a smaller vc-adsr too which would help with the goal.


So anyway, i'd be curious to see in how few HP:s you could get the above idea crammed into.

At a condensed minimum, i get the following:

-Let's go for dual pots for the ADSR steps. That's 8 controls in 4 pot places.
-1 xmix linearity bend knob. If we make it dual, the second dial could be an attenuverter for the 2nd channel. You can then fine-tune the total volume of the envelope to be slightly more timid than the 1st, or invert it to create a complex envelope outside of the tracking context.

= 5 knobs.

1 shared gate/trig jack for both envs.
1 xmix cv
1 xmix out
2 individual outs (maybe not exactly requisite, but..)
= 4 jacks.

That's doable in 8hp and still have some space vacant for 4 jacks, switches or mini pots.

The question then is whether to spend those on CV control over steps (and what steps make the most musical sense), or something else, or a blend.

Suggestion:
-1 mini pot for attenuating all the below following cv inputs on the 2nd channel to be proportionally less affected than the 1st.
-1 cv input to control the sustain portion of both envelopes. normalled to the below input jack.
-1 cv to increase both D and R of both envelopes.
-1 cv to change the A portion of both envelopes. Maybe inverted?


Additional conveniences that could be added without adding panel complexity or HP:s

-Gates coming in hotter than 5v will amplify the total envelope(s)s amplitude. Up to a point where it gets clamped. This way, it is possible to

a)affect overall loudness by varying the gate voltage beyond the comparator threshold.
b)create an A-hold-DSR through squashing the envelopes against the clamp.
the clamp threshold could be trim-able.

Just fantasies, of course. It would not be the most affordable 8hp adsr for sure. I think it pretty much needs to be SMT populated too in order to fit the pcb:s

One oversight with this plan is there's no jack to separate the 2nd env trigger from the 1st, if you wanted to.
Shledge
Not everything has to be as condensed as possible - ergonomics will suffer if it goes too far. Then again, I have a few "micro" versions of mutable modules like Knit, which is a 6hp Plaits.

You can get a smaller version of Frames though, look up "Plancks". 8hp for the exact same functionality. Codex Modulex sell a 10hp version.
hlprmnky
R.U.Nuts wrote:
A small voltage controlled quad panning module. Four inputs, stereo output and pan CV inputs for each of the input channel. Just because I'd like to run the four outputs of my Eowave Fluctuations Magnetiques through this for spectral panning. A macro control would also be cool so you could control the panning of all channels with one knob/CV. Basically Mutable Instruments Frames in stereo...


If I've understood this right, you could technically do what you want here with two Make Noise X-Pans in series (pan inputs 1 and 2 in X-Pan 1, feed that to the Aux input of X-Pan 2 where you have inputs 3 and 4, take final mix out from X-Pan 2), but that would be a pretty big waste of HP and resources because you're not using any of the crossfader pieces?
R.U.Nuts
hlprmnky wrote:
R.U.Nuts wrote:
A small voltage controlled quad panning module. Four inputs, stereo output and pan CV inputs for each of the input channel. Just because I'd like to run the four outputs of my Eowave Fluctuations Magnetiques through this for spectral panning. A macro control would also be cool so you could control the panning of all channels with one knob/CV. Basically Mutable Instruments Frames in stereo...


If I've understood this right, you could technically do what you want here with two Make Noise X-Pans in series (pan inputs 1 and 2 in X-Pan 1, feed that to the Aux input of X-Pan 2 where you have inputs 3 and 4, take final mix out from X-Pan 2), but that would be a pretty big waste of HP and resources because you're not using any of the crossfader pieces?


Yeah, maybe. Haven't checked the X-pan yet. Verbos Scan & Pan can do quad panning or the Doepfer VC Performance mixer. But they all have a lot a lot of features I don't neccessarily need. I really think about it as some kind of expander for a quad audio output module like a filter with individual outs for the different filter types or a quad VCA or the mentioned Fluctuations Magnetiques . I also think it might be overkill to automatically pan four sounds in most cases because it would create a dizzying mess. But used subtle and with slow modulation it could be a pretty nice effect.
jdee
Cwejman MX-4S does this really well.
spillane
Def. reaktor metaphysical function and unfiltered audio sandman pro
VM
I want a 4 or 6-channel eurorack mixer with headphone and stereo XLR outs that lets you toggle which channel you want to remove from the main output mix and divert to the headphone out so you can monitor and change the pitch/levels of a voice prior to crossfading it into the main output mix.
cackland
VM wrote:
I want a 4 or 6-channel eurorack mixer with headphone and stereo XLR outs that lets you toggle which channel you want to remove from the main output mix and divert to the headphone out so you can monitor and change the pitch/levels of a voice prior to crossfading it into the main output mix.


More so a ‘cue’ function... doesn’t remove it from the main output, as that is decided on the mix control knob for that channel.

I was thinking of building something similar. What hp size?
VM
cackland wrote:
VM wrote:
I want a 4 or 6-channel eurorack mixer with headphone and stereo XLR outs that lets you toggle which channel you want to remove from the main output mix and divert to the headphone out so you can monitor and change the pitch/levels of a voice prior to crossfading it into the main output mix.


More so a ‘cue’ function... doesn’t remove it from the main output, as that is decided on the mix control knob for that channel.

I was thinking of building something similar. What hp size?


The "divert from main output mix" toggle is important because say you will start with a patch that involves 5 out of 6 channels being output to the mixer, and you want to crossfade the 6th one in, but you need to monitor it on the cans first to check pitch and rhythm, etc.

Over 9000 hours in ms paint later:



In the above diagram, channels 1-3 are being sent to the main outputs (TRS and/or 3.5mm), Ch4,5 are muted and Ch6 is being diverted to the headphones monitor out. So it's a performance mute and 6-channel stereo mixer.

This might be too stupid or niche to work, and I might be sleep-deprived, but I *want* it to exist, which is the point of this thread screaming goo yo
Graham Hinton
VM wrote:

This might be too stupid or niche to work, and I might be sleep-deprived, but I *want* it to exist, which is the point of this thread


You've just try to re-invent PFL and made a poorer version.
VM
Graham Hinton wrote:
VM wrote:

This might be too stupid or niche to work, and I might be sleep-deprived, but I *want* it to exist, which is the point of this thread


You've just try to re-invent PFL and made a poorer version.


Thanks for bringing this module+expander combo to my attention. Is my design "poorer" because of the amount of redundancy, or the build (im)practicalities, or some other reason?
ericD13
Graham Hinton wrote:

You've just try to re-invent PFL and made a poorer version.


What is PFL ?
cackland
ericD13 wrote:
Graham Hinton wrote:

You've just try to re-invent PFL and made a poorer version.


What is PFL ?


Pre Fade Listen
Audition the channels signal prior to the fader

There is also AFL (After Fade Listen) - Opposite of PFL
Audition the channels signal from a point immediately after the fader, showing the level of the channel's contribution to the mix.
R.U.Nuts
BUT neither PFL or AFL will remove a signal from the main mix while you're monitoring it. You'd also need to mute it.
Graham Hinton
VM wrote:
Is my design "poorer" because of the amount of redundancy, or the build (im)practicalities, or some other reason?


It is poorer because you can only use the monitor for that one purpose. On mixers that have PFL the monitored channel is switched to a PFL bus and the monitor is switched from Mix to the PFL us too, the rest of the time you can monitor the main output. If you want stereo PFL too that is going to take more poles than you get on a toggle switch, which is why most mixers use push switches with 4 or 6 poles.

R.U.Nuts wrote:
BUT neither PFL or AFL will remove a signal from the main mix while you're monitoring it. You'd also need to mute it.


That is the job of the fader and why it is called PRE Fade Listen. In general it is undesirable to have monitoring change the main mix.
R.U.Nuts
Graham Hinton wrote:


R.U.Nuts wrote:
BUT neither PFL or AFL will remove a signal from the main mix while you're monitoring it. You'd also need to mute it.


That is the job of the fader and why it is called PRE Fade Listen. In general it is undesirable to have monitoring change the main mix.


Right but VM's idea was a mixer that automatically removes the signal from the main mix while you're monitoring it (if I understood it right). Some Mackie mixers use the mute button to also route the signal to a sub bus while it's muted. That's a pretty cool feature. I use this to route signals through a FX unit. I also abuse the PFL bus to route signals through a delay for dubby momentary delay FX.
forrest
nso_music wrote:
an actually compact (6-8hp) random module with no nonsense, just 6+ outputs of smooth or stepped random CV, with a clock input to control rate. built-in little attenuverters on each output and you have my dream module.


Basically an NLC triple sloth.
Foghorn
EDIT:

DOH, posted in wrong thread. hmmm.....

Meant to post in:
.......Modules that exist, but shouldn't

Foghorn seriously, i just don't get it
miles_macquarrie
Most Wanted Non Existent Module:

A Complex CV recorder with Multiple Outputs, Lots of recall of stored cv, Editing Capabilities, A Screen, and the ability to record CV, Triggers, Gates,
and then output all of that quantized or unquantized. Instant buy
Daisuk
miles_macquarrie wrote:
Most Wanted Non Existent Module:

A Complex CV recorder with Multiple Outputs, Lots of recall of stored cv, Editing Capabilities, A Screen, and the ability to record CV, Triggers, Gates,
and then output all of that quantized or unquantized. Instant buy


Sounds like Squarp's Hermod to me. hihi
Hirsbro
An euclidean trigger sequencer with knob and vc in per function (length, fill and rotate) Grids and 2hp Euclid are close functionally. Preferably with a screen for vusual feedback, like in squarp pyramid love
cackland
Hirsbro wrote:
An euclidean trigger sequencer with knob and vc in per function (length, fill and rotate) Grids and 2hp Euclid are close functionally. Preferably with a screen for vusual feedback, like in squarp pyramid love


Without any experience on the Pyramid, but can't this be done already?
Daisuk
cackland wrote:
Hirsbro wrote:
An euclidean trigger sequencer with knob and vc in per function (length, fill and rotate) Grids and 2hp Euclid are close functionally. Preferably with a screen for vusual feedback, like in squarp pyramid love


Without any experience on the Pyramid, but can't this be done already?


You can with squarp Hermod, but it only has four cv inputs. You can route those 4 cv inputs to anywhere and multiple times thanks to the modulation matrix though.
gringostar
I wonder how hard it would be to reprogram the A-160-2 so that the 2-128 divider can instead be the fibonacci sequence.
Mawkeyz
2HP utility module with 1 input and 2-4 buffered outputs. One coarse knob, one fine knob for bi-directional voltage scaling. Scaling means it spreads the input voltage range out or narrows it - not just a voltage offset. Especially useful for pitch CV because 1V/octave isn't necessarily 1V/octave.
R.U.Nuts
A 4MS DLD MK II which breaks out the hidden functions of the DLD, adds voltage control for the scrub feature adds start/stop and reset transport controls and a switch that toggles between no repitch and repitch behaviour when changing delay times.
Aelitafrommars
Natural Gates, but with either button toggle switchable (or attenuvertable) "memory" built in, so you can more easily play it more like any typical instrument (ie quick drum rolls or rapid string plucks in succession typically lowers the force of the strike in favour of precision).
cackland
R.U.Nuts wrote:
A 4MS DLD MK II which breaks out the hidden functions of the DLD, adds voltage control for the scrub feature adds start/stop and reset transport controls and a switch that toggles between no repitch and repitch behaviour when changing delay times.


This would be interesting to see.
Hirsbro
Daisuk wrote:
cackland wrote:
Hirsbro wrote:
An euclidean trigger sequencer with knob and vc in per function (length, fill and rotate) Grids and 2hp Euclid are close functionally. Preferably with a screen for vusual feedback, like in squarp pyramid love


Without any experience on the Pyramid, but can't this be done already?


You can with squarp Hermod, but it only has four cv inputs. You can route those 4 cv inputs to anywhere and multiple times thanks to the modulation matrix though.


Yes you can and I have hermod but you don't have a knob per function wich was my point/wish otherwise there are plenty of options out there and combinations of various other modules that can get your there without visual feedback
MvK
a 4x4 stereo matrix mixer. Expandable into x and y direction.
a quad (or more) chromatic quantizer (without scales) in 4hp, only jacks.
a timestretching and slicing sampler from rossum
a delay and reverb module from Synth Tech.
a stereo tri-band compressor.
an octal sine-bank with individual outputs. You would have one fundamental (leftmost) and you could then save many presets containing the intervals of the remaining 7 sine oscs. Nice for audiorate modulation of everything.
nanners
Daisuk
Hirsbro wrote:
Daisuk wrote:
cackland wrote:
Hirsbro wrote:
An euclidean trigger sequencer with knob and vc in per function (length, fill and rotate) Grids and 2hp Euclid are close functionally. Preferably with a screen for vusual feedback, like in squarp pyramid love


Without any experience on the Pyramid, but can't this be done already?


You can with squarp Hermod, but it only has four cv inputs. You can route those 4 cv inputs to anywhere and multiple times thanks to the modulation matrix though.


Yes you can and I have hermod but you don't have a knob per function wich was my point/wish otherwise there are plenty of options out there and combinations of various other modules that can get your there without visual feedback


Yeah, agreed, that would be great! smile
steffie268
I'm still in the research phase prior to building my first rack - I'm not new to synthesis but modular does present some nice new challenges wink
In any case, the first thing I'd think of trying to DIY would be a multiple with an attenuator on each output and a switch to off-set the voltage by +2,5 V.
Why? Let's say you want to send an LFO to multiple destinations...Some may accept -2,5 to +2,5 V while others might require 0-+5V... Also in some destinations the control pot for the input might act as an attenuator but it might also act as an off-set, in which case the signal might have to be attenuated prior to entering... If you could do that in a single module, wouldn't that be very conventient? Or have I missed the point?
MvK
steffie268 wrote:
I'm still in the research phase prior to building my first rack - I'm not new to synthesis but modular does present some nice new challenges wink
In any case, the first thing I'd think of trying to DIY would be a multiple with an attenuator on each output and a switch to off-set the voltage by +2,5 V.
Why? Let's say you want to send an LFO to multiple destinations...Some may accept -2,5 to +2,5 V while others might require 0-+5V... Also in some destinations the control pot for the input might act as an attenuator but it might also act as an off-set, in which case the signal might have to be attenuated prior to entering... If you could do that in a single module, wouldn't that be very conventient? Or have I missed the point?


no, you're not missing the point :-) these kinds of tools are actually very important parts of modular and they make your great big super high end modules work. Concerning your project I'd suggest attenuversion. That way you're not only able to decrease the modulation depth of an output, you can also invert the modulation. That can be very useful. Example: you modulate the filter frequency with the sum of an AD-envelope and a LFO. While the LFO output goes directly to the cutoff freq. The negative version of it can modulate something like the level (via VCA) or the decay time of the envelope at a certain "negative" depth. That way, every time the LFO goes up the impact of the envelope is reduced. Useful to keep your modulation "window" in check.

something like this comes to mind as an inspiration for your project:
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/livestock-electronics-felix

The selection of the right tools depends highly on the modules you want to modulate. A 2-4hp Filter will likely have less attenuation on its CV inputs than a 10-20hp one.

Offset:
Also very dependent on your modulation destinations. Sometimes you just don't need it because many "parameters" have their own knob which is nothing but an offset (a fixed voltage that is added (mixed) to a signal) In the example above it is the cutoff knob of the filter. Its also ok the modulate the filter bipolar. In that case you set the zero point with the cutoff knob (offset) but for many things offset is very important like if you want to have a bipolar signal modulate a VCA. Without offset only the positive portion of the signal would modulate, which can be great but if you want the whole signal it has to be unipolar.

But I wouldn't use a switch with a fixed voltage, because there are so many more applications for offset where you need different voltages.
Eurtrude
steffie268 wrote:
I'm still in the research phase prior to building my first rack - I'm not new to synthesis but modular does present some nice new challenges wink
In any case, the first thing I'd think of trying to DIY would be a multiple with an attenuator on each output and a switch to off-set the voltage by +2,5 V.
Why? Let's say you want to send an LFO to multiple destinations...Some may accept -2,5 to +2,5 V while others might require 0-+5V... Also in some destinations the control pot for the input might act as an attenuator but it might also act as an off-set, in which case the signal might have to be attenuated prior to entering... If you could do that in a single module, wouldn't that be very conventient? Or have I missed the point?


While I agree a module like this would be super useful to save quite a lot of patch cables / modules, some will say "this is modular so just use a multiple + attenuaverter module" smile
Eurtrude
I wish someone could make a module that "breaks" an incoming CV source to 2 outputs : one for CV values of that source lower than a threshold value defined by the user, and the other for the CV values greater than the same threshold.

With that, you could, for example, use the same CV sequence to control 2 modules : one for the bass, one for the lead.

I think you can achieve the same results using comparators and switches but it would again save a lot of patch cables.
Daisuk
Eurtrude wrote:
I wish someone could make a module that "breaks" an incoming CV source to 2 outputs : one for CV values of that source lower than a threshold value defined by the user, and the other for the CV values greater than the same threshold.

With that, you could, for example, use the same CV sequence to control 2 modules : one for the bass, one for the lead.

I think you can achieve the same results using comparators and switches but it would again save a lot of patch cables.


Half wave rectifiers can do this to bipolar signals, but you probably already knew that. wink like this one:

http://www.cfmodular.com/bipolar-half-wave-rectifier.html
matcsat
Hi,

Eurtrude wrote:
... I wish someone could make a module that "breaks" an incoming CV source to 2 outputs : one for CV values of that source lower than a threshold value defined by the user, and the other for the CV values greater than the same threshold ...

... I think you can achieve the same results using comparators and switches but it would again save a lot of patch cables ...


i think a min/max module and a manual voltage source can do that, only minor thing is the threshold voltage is shared by the two output (like in your example), ... you can't have a gap between the two, for example one output below -1V and the other above 2V, for this you need two min/max modules and two manual voltage source.*

In the end it's only one cable more.

[edit] it seems the Ladik U-040 incorporate both functions.

Marco.

* [edit] i was actually wrong, one min/max module is enough.
cptnal
matcsat wrote:


[edit] it seems the Ladik U-040 incorporate both functions.

Marco.


something wonderful

...and I thought I was done for the moment. Dead Banana
Shledge
The disting mk3/4 can do this too via the min/max algo.
matcsat
... after more thinking about it, a gap between the two output is easly achievable with a secont manual voltage source. (i know nobody ask for this, but it's interesting to think how far the idea can go)

Let say you have an LFO +-5V and two fixed voltage at -1V and +2V: the min output would be from -5V to -1V and the max output from +2V to +5V, the min and max outputs stay at the respective threshold level until the LFO go beyond or below respectively.

Marco.
Pighood
Euro version of Korg’s MOSS board fap fap fap...
joeTron
A sequencer that doesn't just do "performance" sequencing but also stores ideas into song parts for stringing together.
Bath House
I want a CV crossfader module with adjustable crossover curve between signals A and B, where at center both signals are added and at hard left only signal A is present and hard right only signal B is present.
DJMaytag
A version of the Expert Sleepers ES-5 that has 8x CV out instead of gate outs, plus the same 6x headers for other ESX modules.
ayruos
I feel the need for a stereo crossfader now grin

I know I can get it done with some elaborate patching, but a dedicated multichannel stereo crossfader would be super considering I find myself working in stereo with the Morphagene, QPAS and Clouds quite extensively these days. I do have the X-Pan too. So outputs from a couple of those into a stereo panner for further processing or output or just being able to crossfade between the different QPAS outputs would be super.
cackland
Mentioned this to Intellijel on their forum.

Would love an ES8 in Intellijel 1U. A simple 8 channel input, sent via usb to the computer. Then the signal can be routed like a normal audio interface inside the DAW.
bedhed3000
ayruos wrote:
I feel the need for a stereo crossfader now grin

I know I can get it done with some elaborate patching, but a dedicated multichannel stereo crossfader would be super considering I find myself working in stereo with the Morphagene, QPAS and Clouds quite extensively these days. I do have the X-Pan too. So outputs from a couple of those into a stereo panner for further processing or output or just being able to crossfade between the different QPAS outputs would be super.


Looks like this exists now: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/wmd-axys--
ayruos
bedhed3000 wrote:


Looks like this exists now: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/wmd-axys--


Ooooh, nice find! I'll add this to the list of wants grin
ayruos
Bath House wrote:
I want a CV crossfader module with adjustable crossover curve between signals A and B, where at center both signals are added and at hard left only signal A is present and hard right only signal B is present.


Can't you do this with an X-Pan?
cptnal
...what I would find handy right about now is a comparator with a built-in volt meter (or two, since it's comparing). You know, kinda like how the Z3000 displays its frequency. These things can be a Dickens of a thing to get just so. Sure, I have my O'Tool, but this is a fantasy thread, right? Mr. Green
Arneb
Bath House wrote:
I want a CV crossfader module with adjustable crossover curve between signals A and B, where at center both signals are added and at hard left only signal A is present and hard right only signal B is present.

Not entirely sure what you mean...
Crossfading of CV: I'll probably buy the the Emblematic Systems Catalyst for this purpose at some point
Voltage-controlled crossfading of CV: Same but with the expander
Voltage-controlled crossfading of audio: That use case should just be the X-Pan.
Shledge
Bath House wrote:
I want a CV crossfader module with adjustable crossover curve between signals A and B, where at center both signals are added and at hard left only signal A is present and hard right only signal B is present.


Overdrive CV modulation (any amplifying VCA will do the job - Veils can easily overdrive a signal), then take the output and into the crossfader. It'll do the same job.
VibratingMotorGate
A CV-able A-138e Quad Three-Way Crossfader would pretty much be the dopest thing imaginable. A Nutube oscillator and/or filter.

I was thinking about rectification the other day and thought it would be cool to have something with 2 inputs being summed: 1-getting positive half-wave, 2-getting negative. But 2 is silenced during the positive cycle of 1 (and visa versa) through some kind of gating VCA being controlled by a syncing function. However if either of the summed outputs goes below/above (depending on the input) the zero point during its cycle, the opposite input will give out a negative phase output, but in the opposing input rectification stage. Would require 4 VCA's and half-wave rectifiers, plus 2 comparators and summing stages.

Also thought about being able to CV the "zero-point" of the rectification stages. Unfortunately, there seems to be a lack of half-wave rectifiers on the market.

Actually, I just thought of something even more nightmarish: a mixer right? wrong: it's a morpher between input signals! hihi hyper eek! help what would the latency be on something like that anyways?
Sandrine
joeTron wrote:
A sequencer that doesn't just do "performance" sequencing but also stores ideas into song parts for stringing together.

That sounds interesting!
deftinwulf
malnatim wrote:
maybe this is unfeasible, but i've been wondering about the idea of a cassette tape delay module.


I love it when old posts from threads like these call out a crazy future module that actually comes to exist. applause

https://www.t-rex-effects.com/replicator-module
deftinwulf
mgallagher641 wrote:
I would like...deep breath...

A four voice Prophet VS oscillator module with all the VS waves in, and a joystick mixer (like Intellijel's planar but for all four voices - so it would probably need to be built in). The clincher would be that, for me, I'd want it to replicate the VS's 12 bit waveforms complete with fizzy aliasing, and its eccentric cost-cutting way of mixing the waves with sample and hold multiplexer chips rather than VCAs. This mucks up the sound in a way that is really distinctive.

It should have a 4 voice summed output plus an out for each voice, i.e. each set of four waveforms.

Quite how the vector position would be modulated I'm not sure. Might need a mix envelope function built in as well.

Why only four voices? I find the eight voices of my VS is usually more than I need, and would cost a lot more and possibly be bigger.

Why this module? Because I love my VS, but the editing is fiddly - one knob per function would transform it - and I think there are nicer sounding filters out there, plus the envelopes are a faff with the multiple stages, the LFOs can't be set to free run, and the mod matrix is limited.

The best thing about the synth is the OSC and vector mixing section. Imagine being able to put that - even just paraphonically - through, say, a Roland-style OTA, SSM or multimode filter, or a couple of filters in series, with all the knobs there to tweak, and have parameters modulated with easier-to-use envelopes (I'd just have two ADSRs), free running LFOs patched to whatever you want...

The other thing is, the CEM 5530 sample and hold chips in the VS are known to die, and are very hard to get hold of, so those of us who own a VS live in fear. And Dave Smith has yet to release a modern equivalent. It would be good for the world to have a non-obsolete, modern, warranty-repairable way of producing that classic VS sound without resorting to soft synth copies.


It's a shame that no one else responded to this, or indeed that this module and/or a modern DSI update/reissue of the VS still does not exist.

Because it would be awesome. love
Foghorn
A Ladik module that I can actually buy, seeing how I have been banned from Paypal.

Foghorn

Actually, my CC was banned from Paypal.
It was hacked 3 times in 7 weeks.
Everytime I got a new one, a week later it had all kinds of charges on it.
$600 at Panera bread in California, the charges were always California.
One time it was run to within 4 cents of the credit limit.
Someone obviously could see the entire account.
My bank decided that Paypal was the problem, and they blocked it. very frustrating
I guess I have to get a prepaid card to use for this. seriously, i just don't get it
brandonlogic
Foghorn wrote:
A Ladik module that I can actually buy, seeing how I have been banned from Paypal.

Foghorn


make a new paypal account with a different email?
coolshirtdotjpg
deftinwulf wrote:
mgallagher641 wrote:
I would like...deep breath...

A four voice Prophet VS oscillator module with all the VS waves in, and a joystick mixer (like Intellijel's planar but for all four voices - so it would probably need to be built in). The clincher would be that, for me, I'd want it to replicate the VS's 12 bit waveforms complete with fizzy aliasing, and its eccentric cost-cutting way of mixing the waves with sample and hold multiplexer chips rather than VCAs. This mucks up the sound in a way that is really distinctive.

It should have a 4 voice summed output plus an out for each voice, i.e. each set of four waveforms.

Quite how the vector position would be modulated I'm not sure. Might need a mix envelope function built in as well.

Why only four voices? I find the eight voices of my VS is usually more than I need, and would cost a lot more and possibly be bigger.

Why this module? Because I love my VS, but the editing is fiddly - one knob per function would transform it - and I think there are nicer sounding filters out there, plus the envelopes are a faff with the multiple stages, the LFOs can't be set to free run, and the mod matrix is limited.

The best thing about the synth is the OSC and vector mixing section. Imagine being able to put that - even just paraphonically - through, say, a Roland-style OTA, SSM or multimode filter, or a couple of filters in series, with all the knobs there to tweak, and have parameters modulated with easier-to-use envelopes (I'd just have two ADSRs), free running LFOs patched to whatever you want...

The other thing is, the CEM 5530 sample and hold chips in the VS are known to die, and are very hard to get hold of, so those of us who own a VS live in fear. And Dave Smith has yet to release a modern equivalent. It would be good for the world to have a non-obsolete, modern, warranty-repairable way of producing that classic VS sound without resorting to soft synth copies.


It's a shame that no one else responded to this, or indeed that this module and/or a modern DSI update/reissue of the VS still does not exist.

Because it would be awesome. love


Damn, that's pretty brilliant. Maybe just have an X/Y in rather than including an actual joystick, but yeah, that would be brilliant.
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